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Old 04-02-20, 09:36 AM
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How do you identify/search for them?

I only see two and they're from distant countries.

I'm in canada and prefer something that won't take 2-3 weeks to ship.
Something like "sram esp 5.0 front shifter" or 7.0 or 9.0

Here are two examples for $25. I assume you want the shorty models.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SRAM-7-0-3-...oAAOSwxNBcmW20

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sram-9-0-SR...wAAOSw4rZefV2M

Here is a 3.0 for $12: https://www.ebay.com/c/1180223988?iid=193248804439

BTW, for those older ones, the 3.0 through 9.0sl are all identical other than the paint.
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https://www.canadabicycleparts.com/s...-shifter-15535

$15 canadian. Says the front shifter is friction.
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Originally Posted by mitchmellow62
https://www.canadabicycleparts.com/s...-shifter-15535

$15 canadian. Says the front shifter is friction.
SRAM site says they are micro-index (which is what the OP wants

https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/ts-mrxc-a1
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Thanks all of you.
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Originally Posted by mitchmellow62
https://www.canadabicycleparts.com/s...-shifter-15535

$15 canadian. Says the front shifter is friction.
On this site, where does it say the front shifter is friction?

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On another site: https://www.bikesandbeyond.ca/produc...r-201545-1.htm

"SRAM's 3.0 Twist Shifters are simple to use and offer solid shifting and reliable construction. Using SRAM's 1:1 actuation ratio technology, the 3.0s are easy to set up and easy to adjust. Plus, with a simple twist of the wrist, you can shift all of gears at once. These shifters are indexed to shift three front chainrings, and feature micro-adjustments to keep derailleur alignment perfect."

How can a shifter be both indexed and have micro adjustments?

sorry for all the questions - i've already had to return two gear shifters and one was sold as friction on amazon but turned out to be indexed.
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https://www.bikesandbeyond.ca/produc...r-201545-1.htm
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Originally Posted by user_1
On this site, where does it say the front shifter is friction?

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On another site: https://www.bikesandbeyond.ca/produc...r-201545-1.htm

"SRAM's 3.0 Twist Shifters are simple to use and offer solid shifting and reliable construction. Using SRAM's 1:1 actuation ratio technology, the 3.0s are easy to set up and easy to adjust. Plus, with a simple twist of the wrist, you can shift all of gears at once. These shifters are indexed to shift three front chainrings, and feature micro-adjustments to keep derailleur alignment perfect."

How can a shifter be both indexed and have micro adjustments?

sorry for all the questions - i've already had to return two gear shifters and one was sold as friction on amazon but turned out to be indexed.
They are described as friction in the lower part of the page under the "description" area. I agree with others that they are actually what SRAM called micro-adjusting which means there are numerous small detent steps that allow one to trim the position of the front derailleur. In my mind it is still correct to call this friction shifting in that there are not just 3 detent positions that have to be matched to chainring positions. I think we're getting hung up in the minutiae of a manufacturer's babble and hype. What was the shifter you're replacing? Micro-adjusting perhaps?
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sram micro adjusting, mrx 200-12, 3 speed marking.
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Originally Posted by mitchmellow62
They are described as friction in the lower part of the page under the "description" area. I agree with others that they are actually what SRAM called micro-adjusting which means there are numerous small detent steps that allow one to trim the position of the front derailleur. In my mind it is still correct to call this friction shifting in that there are not just 3 detent positions that have to be matched to chainring positions. I think we're getting hung up in the minutiae of a manufacturer's babble and hype. What was the shifter you're replacing? Micro-adjusting perhaps?
I wouldn't call it friction. Maybe we should go way back and call them power ratchet, after the old Suntour shifters.

I wouldn't say they're friction just because there are more index positions than there are chainrings. New Shimano road double fronts have 4 positions, but I wouldn't call them friction.
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Originally Posted by user_1
sram micro adjusting, mrx 200-12, 3 speed marking.
So you haven't even tried it?
​Does it have 9 clicks?
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
So you haven't even tried it?
​Does it have 9 clicks?

mrx 200-12
That's the oem broken part - i can't see how many click it had but seemed like a lot. it worked okay.
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Originally Posted by user_1
mrx 200-12
That's the oem broken part - i can't see how many click it had but seemed like a lot. it worked okay.
Oh, I thought that was the item you got as a replacement that wasn't working for you.
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Originally Posted by user_1
Hello,

Are friction grip shifters made any more?

My front derailleur is impossible to index properly and the existing broken shifter is a non-indexed.

Bike shops don't have, amazon just has crappy stuff (i actually bought one marketed as friction but indexed, have to return it), ebay has some old ones but shipping cost exceeds the value.

thanks
Are you sure that the shifter you have is indexed? An indexed Gripshift MRX will have 3 shift positions and 3 numbers on it. The same part but non indexed won't have the numbers but will still have a whole bunch of little clicks.
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the existing broken shifter was micro indexed and had numbers on it. keep in mind, it's 19 years old - that's how they made them back then.
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Originally Posted by user_1
On this site, where does it say the front shifter is friction?

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On another site: https://www.bikesandbeyond.ca/produc...r-201545-1.htm

"SRAM's 3.0 Twist Shifters are simple to use and offer solid shifting and reliable construction. Using SRAM's 1:1 actuation ratio technology, the 3.0s are easy to set up and easy to adjust. Plus, with a simple twist of the wrist, you can shift all of gears at once. These shifters are indexed to shift three front chainrings, and feature micro-adjustments to keep derailleur alignment perfect."

How can a shifter be both indexed and have micro adjustments?

sorry for all the questions - i've already had to return two gear shifters and one was sold as friction on amazon but turned out to be indexed.
"Affordable shifter with the time-tested GripShift design and construction.

Includes inner cables.
Friction front shifter is compatible with all major brands of front derailleurs.
Rear shifter is compatible with Shimano derailleurs."
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Originally Posted by user_1
the existing broken shifter was micro indexed and had numbers on it. keep in mind, it's 19 years old - that's how they made them back then.
Most of the ones (maybe all) made these days have lotsa clicks too.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Most of the ones (maybe all) made these days have lotsa clicks too.
That's not what i was told by two bike shops.

Anyhow, I bought an older stock sram 3 front, it was over $20. Cheaper further from me but the shipping cost would have more than offset the savings.

It's not the best quality but should work.
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Originally Posted by user_1
That's not what i was told by two bike shops.
Most bike shop guys don't know or care much about gripshifts. A high percentage of them would, upon being asked to install a new shift cable on one, suggest just buying a new one or installing triggers instead.
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