Please help me ID this Suntour RD
01-03-23, 05:08 PM
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Please help me ID this Suntour RD
I acquired the Raleigh Richmond from a tip on the other "Are you looking....:" thread. This is a pretty cool bike. For sure it is a European market only. The brake levers are reversed. I'm planning on converting into my Japan Eroica bike.
The current set up is upright, single ring crank and 5 speed. The derailleur on it is nothing i've seen before. BF brain trust please jump in. Unusually cage and jockey wheels. Terrible pictures.... I'll have more info when i pull the part off but if anyone has info readily available please let me know.
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The current set up is upright, single ring crank and 5 speed. The derailleur on it is nothing i've seen before. BF brain trust please jump in. Unusually cage and jockey wheels. Terrible pictures.... I'll have more info when i pull the part off but if anyone has info readily available please let me know.
Thanks
01-03-23, 05:26 PM
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Someone will likely know for sure, but you might just scroll through the entries in Velobase for a visual match: https://velobase.com/ListComponents.aspx?Category=108
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01-03-23, 06:04 PM
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It is evidently horrid enough that Suntour attempted to destroy all evidence of its existence. One always sneaks through, though.
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Now I've gone down a rabbit hole.....!
It does look like it hails from the 'Curse of the Duo-Par Years.....'
It does look like it hails from the 'Curse of the Duo-Par Years.....'
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Now I've gone down a rabbit hole.....!
It does look like it hails from the 'Curse of the Duo-Par Years.....'
It does look like it hails from the 'Curse of the Duo-Par Years.....'
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The parallelogram/body of this SunTour Cap (Model 5100) looks right. The rest, not so much.
The link is to a page from Disraeli Gears, a great Cream album and a great on-line resource for info about derailleurs.
The link is to a page from Disraeli Gears, a great Cream album and a great on-line resource for info about derailleurs.
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It's Alive!!! Well barely. Perhaps intended for MTB usage? Never thought I'd say an Allvit looks nicer than another RD. But if it shifts well, function over form. Definitely a conversation-starter.
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Now I've gone down a rabbit hole.....!
It does look like it hails from the 'Curse of the Duo-Par Years.....'
It does look like it hails from the 'Curse of the Duo-Par Years.....'
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@tmnguuyen - If you mean the front brake lever is on the right side, it is not reversed just a preference. I grew up with that configuration as did a lot of people over 60 . Dave Molton still sets his bike up this way too.
Having owned a number of motorcycles, it is nearly intuitive for me to use the right hand to control the front brake. I used to lock-up the front brake on the CB1100F routinely to know the limits in case of an unexpected braking scenario.
Yes, the cable routing is a bit odd when using Campagnolo or newer side pulls, but before that there were center pulls and a number of side pulls with the cable running to the NDS. on the front.
Having owned a number of motorcycles, it is nearly intuitive for me to use the right hand to control the front brake. I used to lock-up the front brake on the CB1100F routinely to know the limits in case of an unexpected braking scenario.
Yes, the cable routing is a bit odd when using Campagnolo or newer side pulls, but before that there were center pulls and a number of side pulls with the cable running to the NDS. on the front.
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01-04-23, 11:01 AM
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@tmnguuyen - If you mean the front brake lever is on the right side, it is not reversed just a preference. I grew up with that configuration as did a lot of people over 60 . Dave Molton still sets his bike up this way too.
Having owned a number of motorcycles, it is nearly intuitive for me to use the right hand to control the front brake. I used to lock-up the front brake on the CB1100F routinely to know the limits in case of an unexpected braking scenario.
Yes, the cable routing is a bit odd when using Campagnolo or newer side pulls, but before that there were center pulls and a number of side pulls with the cable running to the NDS. on the front.
Having owned a number of motorcycles, it is nearly intuitive for me to use the right hand to control the front brake. I used to lock-up the front brake on the CB1100F routinely to know the limits in case of an unexpected braking scenario.
Yes, the cable routing is a bit odd when using Campagnolo or newer side pulls, but before that there were center pulls and a number of side pulls with the cable running to the NDS. on the front.
Thanks
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Yup, the brake set up is per the motorcycle convention. I have a motorcycle riding friend that has all his bikes set up this same way. I was just pleasantly surprised that i got a Raleigh that is very British. I didn't know the US used that set up early on. Doesn't Dave Mouton have his roots in England?
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