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#1801
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I would argue strongly against that rule! What about pacing pursuit efforts etc? I find it invaluable as I train by myself so don't have anyone pacing me during these sessions.
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Dalai, I agree that they should be allowed in training. Even then, I don't look at it while I am riding, but it sure is nice to see maximum speed and lap time between efforts to judge how the training session is going.
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It sounds like one of those overbearing (or simply not-knowing) parent rules that'll be loosened with time.
"What? They have COMPUTERS on their bikes?! There's no way that they should be allowed to look at them while on the bike!"
Others probably agreed to the rule simply to not be disagreeable as they had (and still have) bigger fish to fry as far as getting the track program up and running.
My guess is that soon it'll be a rule that is on the books that nobody enforces. Then it'll simply be removed as a rule when things settle down.
"What? They have COMPUTERS on their bikes?! There's no way that they should be allowed to look at them while on the bike!"
Others probably agreed to the rule simply to not be disagreeable as they had (and still have) bigger fish to fry as far as getting the track program up and running.
My guess is that soon it'll be a rule that is on the books that nobody enforces. Then it'll simply be removed as a rule when things settle down.
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It sounds like one of those overbearing (or simply not-knowing) parent rules that'll be loosened with time.
"What? They have COMPUTERS on their bikes?! There's no way that they should be allowed to look at them while on the bike!"
Others probably agreed to the rule simply to not be disagreeable as they had (and still have) bigger fish to fry as far as getting the track program up and running.
My guess is that soon it'll be a rule that is on the books that nobody enforces. Then it'll simply be removed as a rule when things settle down.
"What? They have COMPUTERS on their bikes?! There's no way that they should be allowed to look at them while on the bike!"
Others probably agreed to the rule simply to not be disagreeable as they had (and still have) bigger fish to fry as far as getting the track program up and running.
My guess is that soon it'll be a rule that is on the books that nobody enforces. Then it'll simply be removed as a rule when things settle down.
UCI rules started with just nothing loose that can fall on the track. Then as I learned in NZ - blame OZ, Australia started enforcing a no computer rule which then seemed to cause the UCI rules to get the no visible speedometer rule. Might be OZ was just the first to really enforce it. The odd part is it does not address the loose parts that started it and things seem to be more likely to fall off with the alternate mounts.
UCI track rules:
3.2.005 Riders may carry no object on them or on their bicycles that could drop onto the track. They may not bear or use on the track any music player or radio communication system. In addition, any electronic device with display (for instance speedometer or powermeter) must be hidden to that it cannot be read by the riders.
(text modified on 25.09.07; 29.06.09)
Just rotating the mount around the stem is enough to meet the rule so that is the simple way to meet the rule if only hiding while racing. You can also put it in a pocket or inside the skinsuit if desperate.
#1805
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I watch my fellow trackies constantly fiddle with their computers, always covering them up at the last possible moment before each race starts, and I wonder what happened to pedal hard and turn left.
I guess I must be a track racing dinosaur - maybe a trackisaurus rex.
I guess I must be a track racing dinosaur - maybe a trackisaurus rex.
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I'd bet they are setting new interval markers in the file for review later. Also, sometimes it's simply to verify that it's awake and recording.
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I'm with you, Rex. No computers on my bike.
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Can I use this bike on the track?
I plan to build a track dedicated bike, but meanwhile, I wonder If I can use this one if I make the following modifications.
The bike, a steel track frame (rear facing dropouts) with a Sturmey Archer S3X fixed gear 3 speed, 700x 28 Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires and about a 73 gear inch ratio in 3rd (direct) gear.
If I removed all levers and cabling, the hub would default to direct gear. Remove the bottle cage and brakes, and I think I'm there. Anything I've overlooked?
BTW, not looking to race, just ride the track.
The bike, a steel track frame (rear facing dropouts) with a Sturmey Archer S3X fixed gear 3 speed, 700x 28 Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires and about a 73 gear inch ratio in 3rd (direct) gear.
If I removed all levers and cabling, the hub would default to direct gear. Remove the bottle cage and brakes, and I think I'm there. Anything I've overlooked?
BTW, not looking to race, just ride the track.
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Bottom bracket height, maybe. This is for milton, right? Seems like they're being on the conservative side, not sure how a gearhub would go over, especially since they've been on the conservative side for everything so far. 73" is a pretty small gear too, but that's more likely to annoy you than prevent you riding it.
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I plan to build a track dedicated bike, but meanwhile, I wonder If I can use this one if I make the following modifications.
The bike, a steel track frame (rear facing dropouts) with a Sturmey Archer S3X fixed gear 3 speed, 700x 28 Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires and about a 73 gear inch ratio in 3rd (direct) gear.
If I removed all levers and cabling, the hub would default to direct gear. Remove the bottle cage and brakes, and I think I'm there. Anything I've overlooked?
BTW, not looking to race, just ride the track.
The bike, a steel track frame (rear facing dropouts) with a Sturmey Archer S3X fixed gear 3 speed, 700x 28 Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires and about a 73 gear inch ratio in 3rd (direct) gear.
If I removed all levers and cabling, the hub would default to direct gear. Remove the bottle cage and brakes, and I think I'm there. Anything I've overlooked?
BTW, not looking to race, just ride the track.
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It's not like the mods I mentioned would take much. I would swap in another handlebar as well so I don't have to unwrap and remove the levers.
The frame has no braze ons either.
I guess my main questions are about the tires and the disabled IGH.
I could swap in a proper track wheel if need be. I build them all the time.
Last edited by Dan Burkhart; 01-17-15 at 11:58 AM.
#1813
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I plan to build a track dedicated bike, but meanwhile, I wonder If I can use this one if I make the following modifications.
The bike, a steel track frame (rear facing dropouts) with a Sturmey Archer S3X fixed gear 3 speed, 700x 28 Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires and about a 73 gear inch ratio in 3rd (direct) gear.
If I removed all levers and cabling, the hub would default to direct gear. Remove the bottle cage and brakes, and I think I'm there. Anything I've overlooked?
BTW, not looking to race, just ride the track.
The bike, a steel track frame (rear facing dropouts) with a Sturmey Archer S3X fixed gear 3 speed, 700x 28 Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires and about a 73 gear inch ratio in 3rd (direct) gear.
If I removed all levers and cabling, the hub would default to direct gear. Remove the bottle cage and brakes, and I think I'm there. Anything I've overlooked?
BTW, not looking to race, just ride the track.
#1816
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Yes. Recently sort of resurrected as a concept by affinity cycles. A Closer Look at the Trimble Affinity Track Bike | The Radavist
#1818
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I've posted the video on The cycling scrapbook FB page (lots of old Australian track photos and videos) and asked the question there for you taras0000. Will post back here when I get details.
The related blog page for those interested in racing details from the past - https://cyclingscrapbook.blogspot.com.au/
The related blog page for those interested in racing details from the past - https://cyclingscrapbook.blogspot.com.au/
#1819
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That as expected didn't take long. "Darryn was riding a steel frame with gussets built by Bryan Hayes from the AIS in Adelaide."
#1820
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This doesn't look like steel to me...
Maybe they're thinking of this one?
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5161/5...bd2ce6a8_z.jpg
I know that Bryan Hayes made the Euro Sport bikes, but the one in the video is very different.
#1822
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https://autobus.cyclingnews.com/photos/1997/hill.jpg
This doesn't look like steel to me...
Maybe they're thinking of this one?
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5161/5...bd2ce6a8_z.jpg
I know that Bryan Hayes made the Euro Sport bikes, but the one in the video is very different.
This doesn't look like steel to me...
Maybe they're thinking of this one?
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5161/5...bd2ce6a8_z.jpg
I know that Bryan Hayes made the Euro Sport bikes, but the one in the video is very different.
#1823
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I posted that photo and got the following comment from a Robert Bird "The sprint bikes were steel with gussets to strengthen the triangle. the gusset was filled with bog much like car filler and shaped as you see. I had one 91-93."
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