geoluv

50's or early 60's from the skip tooth. this one has been rechromed.

Right Said Fred

The arm chairs are as cool as the bike!

geoluv

they glow in the sun during the summer like an ultra sparkly bowling ball. people offer to buy them but well never sell em. we go through about a pair a summer though, chairs from the 70's that can take a beating on a used bike shop budget are hard to find.

iab

Great bike! The serial number puts it about the early 60s.

https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Ita...al_numbers.htm

iab

And I know a fellow in Beloit with an all original skip-tooth Legnano pista from 1967. He bought it new. Some track riders have always preferred the skip-tooth and it is not the best means to date a bike.

Velognome 

Were is the shop? Anything else lurking inside?

aixaix 

Early 1960s is about right. I recently met the owner of a 1963 Frejus track that had the same crankset as that one: serial #106055. My 1956 track is #56290 and was not a skip tooth. I was surprised to see his with 1" pitch, but apparently some of them came through that way even as late as the mid 1960s.

You can check the lock nuts on the hubs for dating if they are Campy hubs and original to the bike.

I think I've seen that bike in a store in lower Manhattan. Is that so?

geoluv

^ this is a customer bike that we slapped together for him (needed the Italian bb chased the frame was triple chromed and some copper seeped into the threads, the place he had it done doesn't do a lot of bikes).

We have a 6 digit serial mid to late 60's chrome Frejus track (that you saw) on our shop wall that will never sell because its chrome has blemishes but the owner wants 1700. Has full campy pista group though. We have a nice all original Gios Torino too, again it's on consignment and the owner wants too much but we like it in our window. a 1999 Litespeed Tuscan non-custom built up will all period correct 9 speed dura ace, we want 2 grand for it. two 80's schwinn super sports with shimano 600. a scapine with campy shift kit but dura ace cranks. NOS 80's schwinn prelude. a few low end pugs from the 70's and 80's. a 71 px-10. i personaly have a 83 red guerciotti im trying to sell for $600, im waiting for the spring to put it on ebay. we have some other lower end road bikes like varsitys and records and grand prixs and whatnot, about 70 % of our business is cruiser bikes through, raleigh sports and schwinn breezes.

David Newton

From the title I thought it was a story about riding an old track bike on the street for a year.
Could you make up a story like that?

geoluv

^ i've been riding this 69 record all stock every day for three years, but it aint skip tooth.

alexihnen 

Stumbled upon this thread as I have a chrome Frejus track bike with serial 93696, a virtual brother to the OP’s.

stardognine

Very cool, but more pics of the whole bike would be nice. 😉

I'm pretty sure those chairs were around in the '60s. At least they look a heck of a lot like the ones in the barber shop my brother took me to several times. They had a great collection of comic books. 😎

alexihnen 

Here you go.

stardognine

Whoa, thanks VERY much, those pics are awesome! 👍😎👍

That Cinelli logo on the stem is gorgeous, but I really like that Frejus headbadge. 🙂 And chromavelato (I hope I got that right) is the best finish, I think.

I had an early '70s Professional before, but the previous owner stripped off all the chromavelato, except for part of the headtube graphics. Mine didn't have a headbadge at all, but the logo (badly damaged) looked like a pretty detailed hand-painted affair. 🤔 There was just a bit of that same blue left, as yours has.

I always wondered what it looked like, when new. Yours gives me a nice taste. 😁

BTW, the previous owner of mine was a young guy, but not an idjit. The chromavelato was badly damaged when he aquired it. He at least tried to straighten it out. 🙂

stardognine

BTW, don't think I didn't notice those bar plugs, probably rare as hen's teeth. 😎 And I don't mind the bonus Holdsworth pic TOO much. 😁😉

alexihnen 

You're probably right. Eventually, I'll move this bike along but I'll be tempted to keep those for another Frejus.
The Holdsworth needs its own post!

iab

Well that's a keeper.

Plehrmann

Honestly, I have never used a forum for posting, only for learning. I was curious if anyone knew what my departed friend's bike is worth and what year it would be. It is a Frejus in all chrome with Campy parts. The number on the frame is really cool 100100. I know he used it to tryout for the Munich Olympics but missed the team by a spot. He gave this bike to me in about 1992 and I have kept is since. I have not cleaned it since he was alive. He taught me how to ride it and work on it at that time, but I have since had it hanging in the garage.

iab

Start a new thread in the appraisals forum - https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...th-appraisals/

oneclick 

Right you were, thanks for suggesting the poster to show more - that thing is lovely..

rando_couche

IIRC, skip-tooth (or "inch-pitch" as we called it in Oregon) was a match sprint thing - made for a more rigid, responsive drivetrain and all that, at the expense of fine tuning gearing (essentially only even tooth cogs and rings, compared with 1/2 inch).