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Old 05-18-23, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by juvela
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thanks very much for sharing this rare find with the forum

me guess would be that it was purchased overseas and brought back by a traveler

have never seen this model carried by a U.S. stockist

puhleeze lower stem before attempting to ride - serious safety risk with so little engagement with steerer

if stem needs to be that high for comfort that is fine; just replace with a taller one than what came OEM

the MAFAC guidonnet levers with their plastic are near to useless; if you would like to retain guidonnets suggest to change to the CLB which are much more robust & rigid

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I have a Peugeot UE8 I'm working on with flat bars and those Mafac guidonnet plastic levers. I've been thinking about ditching them. Good to know I'm not the only one who is skeptical about them.
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Originally Posted by Portlandjim
Photo set here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/iCvF8RjKigmkiqoZ7

This bike was hanging on the wall in Talbots Cyclery since it was new. It's never been ridden. I have never ridden it either! I installed different tires, and made a decaleur for the handlebar bag since I took these photos. 700C wheels, it's a sportif model with all the bells and whistles.
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thanks so much for sharing this treasure JIm!

when you write Talbots Cyclery is this the one on El Camino in San Mateo, California or another one?

noticed the rubber chainslap protector hath gone walkabout

at last check replicas were stocked by Hiroshi at Jitensha Studio in Berkeley, California

as recalled, there was a selection of six or so colours

it appears the clamp parts on the clip for the Tron et Berthet 90-I have been changed from the stock ones in order to give loops for the attachment of a saddle bag. are these bits made by Singer or available elsewhere?

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Originally Posted by bikemig
I have a Peugeot UE8 I'm working on with flat bars and those Mafac guidonnet plastic levers. I've been thinking about ditching them. Good to know I'm not the only one who is skeptical about them.
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it does not show very clearly on the catalogue page illustration but the CLB guidonnet and safety levers have a triangular cross-section of the lever proper

this design makes them quite rigid


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Originally Posted by juvela
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it does not show very clearly on the catalogue page illustration but the CLB guidonnet and safety levers have a triangular cross-section of the lever proper

this design makes them quite rigid


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They look great. People are asking crazy money for these on eBay ($100 and up). Time to head to the bike co-op and find a set of weinmann brake levers, .
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Originally Posted by juvela
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thanks very much for sharing this rare find with the forum

me guess would be that it was purchased overseas and brought back by a traveler

have never seen this model carried by a U.S. stockist

puhleeze lower stem before attempting to ride - serious safety risk with so little engagement with steerer

if stem needs to be that high for comfort that is fine; just replace with a taller one than what came OEM

the MAFAC guidonnet levers with their plastic are near to useless; if you would like to retain guidonnets suggest to change to the CLB which are much more robust & rigid
Thanks for the info!
It was indeed brought back to the states from Germany by a US serviceman in the 70's.
And duly noted about the stem height; I was fiddling with the stem/seatpost height before taking the shots and it's apparent that I'll have to do some adjustments to the cockpit. I have a few 22.0 stems in the parts bin, as well as a set of Mafac drop bar levers that should play well with the Mafac canti's. I always save all the original parts to my bikes, in case i have to make them "all original" again for potential resale.
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The Talbots shop in San Mateo is where this was hanging on the wall. Did you check out the photos in the link? The stem has the original owner's name and city engraved one it. Evidently, the two brothers who owned the shop went to Paris and each ordered a custom bike. One from Rene Hurse, the other one from Singer. The brother who got the Singer didn't ride much, so it hung on the wall for all these years. A few years ago, when the shop closed, the bothers had been involved in a long standing feud. The Singer got sold without the one brother being told! Anyway, I got it because it was too big for the new buyer. I got an original chain slapper rubber, these photos were from when I first got the bike. I don't understand your comment about saddle bag clips. The seat post top clamp has tabs that allow the saddle angle to be locked, this might be what you are seeing. The saddle does not have bag clips. Jim Merz
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Originally Posted by bargo68
Thanks for the info!
It was indeed brought back to the states from Germany by a US serviceman in the 70's.
And duly noted about the stem height; I was fiddling with the stem/seatpost height before taking the shots and it's apparent that I'll have to do some adjustments to the cockpit. I have a few 22.0 stems in the parts bin, as well as a set of Mafac drop bar levers that should play well with the Mafac canti's. I always save all the original parts to my bikes, in case i have to make them "all original" again for potential resale.

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it is generally a good idea to have at least six or seven cm of stem down inside the steerer for safety
failures in this location can be catastrophic

if you would like to keep the bicycle all french and all period the ATAX brand made stems which are taller than the usually encountered AVA & PIVO models

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this one even came with a Peugeot emblem -

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Delrin shift levers mentioned by bikemig above -

this model Simplex Prestige shift lever launched 1970 and first appeared on new 1971 model bicycles

there are all-metal Simplex shift levers which are contemporaneous with the bicycle, such as the Criterium model as shown on this catalogue page of 1971; the Criterium front mech would also be an upgrade which would be period correct



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dating -

do not think cycle could be earlier than about 1974-5 as this was about the time the first Lyotard pedals appear with the dustcap exhibited by the cycle's Model 25R pedals

if cycle were any later some of its other kitting would have differed

catalogue page of 1977:



an earlier Lyotard model 36 pedal showed this dustcap -



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possible you may find that the machine's Simplex Prestige gear mechs carry a date mark as here -




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Old 05-18-23, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by VintageSteelEU
Exactly what I was thinking about. I mean not your Mirage (though it's lovely). I was thinking whether getting Pletscher rear rack would work with mine (which also doesn't have braze-ons for a rack on the seatstays). Looks like it would
Are you able to use any panier bags with it?
I haven't yet but i expect them to fit well.
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Originally Posted by VintageSteelEU
Exactly what I was thinking about. I mean not your Mirage (though it's lovely). I was thinking whether getting Pletscher rear rack would work with mine (which also doesn't have braze-ons for a rack on the seatstays). Looks like it would
Are you able to use any panier bags with it?
I haven't tried but expect that they would fit.
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Originally Posted by Mike.delaney601
I haven't tried but expect that they would fit.
I guess I'd have to give it a go. Over the next few months I might find myself carrying some equipment for work and a backpack might not be sufficient or practical. Guess will have to do some research regarding the subject
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Its June 6. In remembrance of D-Day.


Full French build Follis
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Full French build Follis
need to pull out a British or American bike
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Work is progressing on this old beauty, a 1972/3 Peugeot AE 8.
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What a lovely bike! I'm green with envy.
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Originally Posted by repechage
need to pull out a British or American bike
...or Canadian bike.
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Some of the shiny bits are ready for the AE 8.

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The PX-10 is back in tan-walled summer mode!


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...or Canadian bike.
yes, forgot all who could assisted.
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The PX-10 is back in tan-walled summer mode!


Makes me want to try large flange hubs for the next build... If I only could find any in black!
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Originally Posted by VintageSteelEU
Makes me want to try large flange hubs for the next build... If I only could find any in black!
I think high flange hubs look perfect on an old French bike.

Hope you can track down a pair for yourself!
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Originally Posted by 1simplexnut
A recent French arrival with a Kiwi accent .
1983 by the decals . I dont recall ever seeing one of these in green .
Vitus 980 tubing
Sticker on bottom of seat tube proves the Kiwi connection
I would be interested to hear opinions on saddle and bar tape colours






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Really nice frameset. I've seen the earlier PFN10 in this green, but with goldish/bronze down-tube decals. I agree with OTN about black saddle (maybe Reydel GTI), but I would match the bar tape to the blue on the toptube, instead.
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Just picked up this Mercier 300 for my partner. I go on about French bikes all the **** time and she wants to see what all the fuss is about. It'll also be her first try with friction shifting. So, I'm prepared to be listing at least the frame here if it don't work out. Really like the color on this one. Came with tubulars too. Got it from the original owner. Seller photos:







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I love a curvy French gal… I mean fork! Dogleg bends or straight legs just look cheap IMHO. The graceful radius at the end of the forks just looks lovely!
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I love a curvy French gal… I mean fork! Dogleg bends or straight legs just look cheap IMHO. The graceful radius at the end of the forks just looks lovely!
Built for comfort (and a little speed too).
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Originally Posted by 1simplexnut
A recent French arrival with a Kiwi accent .
1983 by the decals . I dont recall ever seeing one of these in green .
Vitus 980 tubing
Sticker on bottom of seat tube proves the Kiwi connection
I would be interested to hear opinions on saddle and bar tape colours






Healing industries sticker
Took my Charlie Roberts touring to NZ, back in 1984. Rode with a group from Christchurch to a former French town, Akaroa, lovely. In conversation several guys said they would send a list of bits to bring in suitcase next time, to beat the customs duties. That would make sense to build the bikes in NZ. It was a wonderful 6 weeks on both islands, and the Roberts got to get out on the Franz Joseph glacier, via a STOL plane ride. And I have a blue 1982 PSV-10, and the Vitus 980 is one of my favorite rides, very underrated frameset.
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