Addiction 2021.3
#5951
Silver Comet Fred
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: NW Metro Atl.
Posts: 12,068
Bikes: 1
Mentioned: 145 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8835 Post(s)
Liked 2,986 Times
in
1,736 Posts
Likes For DougRNS:
#5952
Silver Comet Fred
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: NW Metro Atl.
Posts: 12,068
Bikes: 1
Mentioned: 145 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8835 Post(s)
Liked 2,986 Times
in
1,736 Posts
#5953
Mostly Harmless
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chittenango, NY
Posts: 56,592
Bikes: Have two wheels
Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13714 Post(s)
Liked 4,530 Times
in
2,506 Posts
Interesting experience on today's ride. Recall I still run Ultegra 6700 on my bikes. Also recall that the exposed parts of the shifters are notorious for rusting, and there is a bit of rust on mine.
When I started the ride, my inner paddle (to shift to a smaller cog in back) would sometimes just move but not shift, and sometimes would "catch" and shift properly. Oh crap. The outer shifter would shift crisply to the bigger cogs nice and crisply. So I am pretty sure the problem is NOT a fraying cable or a cable problem at all, but something in the shifter mechanism that is not engaging properly. I am not enough of an expert on the shifter innards/mechanism to make a definite diagnosis. Luckily, as the ride progressed, the weak "catch" or inability to shift at all became less frequent, and within 15 minutes it was working fine.
My suspicion is that whatever ratchet or other gizmo inside the shifter may have gotten stuck due to rust and lack of use (this is my first ride on the bike in 2 weeks), but I am torn whether to just leave it alone versus spray a bunch of WD40 and/or lube up into the mechanism to help clear out whatever the cause was.
Suggestions???
When I started the ride, my inner paddle (to shift to a smaller cog in back) would sometimes just move but not shift, and sometimes would "catch" and shift properly. Oh crap. The outer shifter would shift crisply to the bigger cogs nice and crisply. So I am pretty sure the problem is NOT a fraying cable or a cable problem at all, but something in the shifter mechanism that is not engaging properly. I am not enough of an expert on the shifter innards/mechanism to make a definite diagnosis. Luckily, as the ride progressed, the weak "catch" or inability to shift at all became less frequent, and within 15 minutes it was working fine.
My suspicion is that whatever ratchet or other gizmo inside the shifter may have gotten stuck due to rust and lack of use (this is my first ride on the bike in 2 weeks), but I am torn whether to just leave it alone versus spray a bunch of WD40 and/or lube up into the mechanism to help clear out whatever the cause was.
Suggestions???
#5954
Mostly Harmless
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chittenango, NY
Posts: 56,592
Bikes: Have two wheels
Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13714 Post(s)
Liked 4,530 Times
in
2,506 Posts
Sometimes that happens because the original assembly lube has degraded and essentially gums up the mechanism. I usually spray some Clean Streak or similar degreaser into the shifter and then some wet spray lube. Work the shifters a bunch, while in the workstand. That often solves the problem. Assuming that's what the problem is.
#5955
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,962
Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10425 Post(s)
Liked 11,899 Times
in
6,094 Posts
I've been finding that I spin >100 rpm a lot on my 80s bikes with 170mm cranks, vs 95-100 on the newer ones with 175s. That, and with fewer gears and DT shifters I tend to shift less often.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."
"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."
"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
#5956
Mostly Harmless
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chittenango, NY
Posts: 56,592
Bikes: Have two wheels
Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13714 Post(s)
Liked 4,530 Times
in
2,506 Posts
Sometimes the non-cycling world attempts to appropriate cycling with hilarious results. To wit, a $28,900 Louis Vuitton single speed bike that is probably less capable than anything from State:
https://theradavist.com/2021/08/__tr...Bkuqtqbtl52A8U
https://theradavist.com/2021/08/__tr...Bkuqtqbtl52A8U
#5957
Mostly Harmless
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chittenango, NY
Posts: 56,592
Bikes: Have two wheels
Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13714 Post(s)
Liked 4,530 Times
in
2,506 Posts
#5958
Silver Comet Fred
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: NW Metro Atl.
Posts: 12,068
Bikes: 1
Mentioned: 145 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8835 Post(s)
Liked 2,986 Times
in
1,736 Posts
Revealing factoid:
one of my favorite albums.
one of my favorite albums.
Likes For DougRNS:
#5959
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,962
Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10425 Post(s)
Liked 11,899 Times
in
6,094 Posts
Sometimes that happens because the original assembly lube has degraded and essentially gums up the mechanism. I usually spray some Clean Streak or similar degreaser into the shifter and then some wet spray lube. Work the shifters a bunch, while in the workstand. That often solves the problem. Assuming that's what the problem is.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."
"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."
"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
#5960
Mostly Harmless
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chittenango, NY
Posts: 56,592
Bikes: Have two wheels
Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13714 Post(s)
Liked 4,530 Times
in
2,506 Posts
#5961
Mostly Harmless
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chittenango, NY
Posts: 56,592
Bikes: Have two wheels
Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13714 Post(s)
Liked 4,530 Times
in
2,506 Posts
It’s a good suggestion but the Habanero has external cables and setting up Di2 that way is fugly. I do plan to get a brand new full groupset next year, and my hope is the next-generation Shimano 12 speed Di2 will be available and also semi-wireless. That fits right into my plan. However I suspect delays and/or supply problems may be an issue.
#5962
Mostly Harmless
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chittenango, NY
Posts: 56,592
Bikes: Have two wheels
Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13714 Post(s)
Liked 4,530 Times
in
2,506 Posts
#5963
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,962
Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10425 Post(s)
Liked 11,899 Times
in
6,094 Posts
#5964
Mostly Harmless
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chittenango, NY
Posts: 56,592
Bikes: Have two wheels
Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13714 Post(s)
Liked 4,530 Times
in
2,506 Posts
No shifters available?
#5965
Should Be More Popular
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 43,052
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
Mentioned: 560 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22598 Post(s)
Liked 8,925 Times
in
4,158 Posts
#5966
Silver Comet Fred
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: NW Metro Atl.
Posts: 12,068
Bikes: 1
Mentioned: 145 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8835 Post(s)
Liked 2,986 Times
in
1,736 Posts
#5967
-------
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Tejas
Posts: 12,795
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9653 Post(s)
Liked 6,365 Times
in
3,505 Posts
#5968
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,842
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12774 Post(s)
Liked 7,692 Times
in
4,081 Posts
Get a load of this abomination spotted at the Phillies game. Shame on you Yuengling.
#5969
Silver Comet Fred
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: NW Metro Atl.
Posts: 12,068
Bikes: 1
Mentioned: 145 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8835 Post(s)
Liked 2,986 Times
in
1,736 Posts
#5970
Silver Comet Fred
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: NW Metro Atl.
Posts: 12,068
Bikes: 1
Mentioned: 145 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8835 Post(s)
Liked 2,986 Times
in
1,736 Posts
#5971
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,842
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12774 Post(s)
Liked 7,692 Times
in
4,081 Posts
#5972
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,842
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12774 Post(s)
Liked 7,692 Times
in
4,081 Posts
#5973
VFL For Life
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 51,222
Bikes: Velo Volmobile
Mentioned: 780 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28616 Post(s)
Liked 1,857 Times
in
1,319 Posts
#5974
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,842
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12774 Post(s)
Liked 7,692 Times
in
4,081 Posts
They got em in El Paso, still a bit of a drive for Yuenglings...
#5975
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,842
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12774 Post(s)
Liked 7,692 Times
in
4,081 Posts
Likes For LesterOfPuppets: