Go Back  Bike Forums > The Racer's Forum > "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
Reload this Page >

Training Status??? (III)

Search
Notices
"The 33"-Road Bike Racing We set this forum up for our members to discuss their experiences in either pro or amateur racing, whether they are the big races, or even the small backyard races. Don't forget to update all the members with your own race results.

Training Status??? (III)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-23-13, 01:47 PM
  #1326  
jsutkeepspining
Banned.
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: ohioland/right near hicville farmtown
Posts: 4,813
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
2 hours of z2 on the rollers (parents told me i couldn't go out into the subfreezing weather. it might hve been a smart decisions). Had 20 minutes of tempo thrown in mid way through the ride. I didn't start coughing during the ride so that's a good sign.
jsutkeepspining is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 02:32 PM
  #1327  
NomadVW 
部門ニ/自転車オタク
 
NomadVW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Sterling, VA
Posts: 3,173

Bikes: 2008 Blue T16, 2009 Blue RC8, 2012 Blue Norcross CX, 2016 Blue Axino SL, 2016 Scott Scale, Fixie, Fetish Cycles Road Bike (on the trainer)

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Concur with this technique wholeheartedly. Survived DC winter chill with plastic grocery bags
NomadVW is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 03:14 PM
  #1328  
MDcatV
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,840
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
so is it the year 2008 in BF.net time?
MDcatV is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 06:46 PM
  #1329  
grolby
Senior Member
 
grolby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BOSTON BABY
Posts: 9,788
Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 288 Post(s)
Liked 86 Times in 60 Posts
2 hours, couldn't get my HR up on the flats (fatigue?), but legs were saying tempo-ish. Dug deeper on the climbs. I didn't feel great, but Strava says I went pretty fast. Stole a KOM from my poor, crashed, recovering teammate. Feels a bit cruel!
grolby is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 07:01 PM
  #1330  
caloso
Senior Member
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur

Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2952 Post(s)
Liked 3,106 Times in 1,417 Posts
Raced today. Worked hard to help put a teammate on the podium. 465tss, which is a record for me.
caloso is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 07:06 PM
  #1331  
jsutkeepspining
Banned.
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: ohioland/right near hicville farmtown
Posts: 4,813
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
damn that's alot of tss. I think i might have 465 tss for the past two weeks...
jsutkeepspining is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 08:28 PM
  #1332  
kensuf
My idea of fun
 
kensuf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 9,920

Bikes: '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '02 Kona Lavadome, '07 Giant TCR Advanced, '07 Karate Monkey

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 41 Post(s)
Liked 59 Times in 36 Posts
holy crap.
kensuf is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 09:05 PM
  #1333  
Creatre
These Guys Eat Oreos
 
Creatre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Superior, CO
Posts: 3,432

Bikes: Yes

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by caloso
Raced today. Worked hard to help put a teammate on the podium. 465tss, which is a record for me.
Uhhh. How long was that race? Holy crap dude.
Creatre is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 09:06 PM
  #1334  
prana800
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 37
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
2 hours on the trainer. Got 0 float cleats and knees feel like crap. Gonna move them around a bit tomorrow and see if I can get the pain to subside.
prana800 is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 09:12 PM
  #1335  
NomadVW 
部門ニ/自転車オタク
 
NomadVW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Sterling, VA
Posts: 3,173

Bikes: 2008 Blue T16, 2009 Blue RC8, 2012 Blue Norcross CX, 2016 Blue Axino SL, 2016 Scott Scale, Fixie, Fetish Cycles Road Bike (on the trainer)

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by caloso
Raced today. Worked hard to help put a teammate on the podium. 465tss, which is a record for me.
No way you should be getting 465 TSS for a 60 mile road race. Assuming it took 3 hours, you'd have to have been riding at IF 1.24 to get that TSS. In which case, your FTP is set to low, since IF 1 is FTP for an hour.

Time to recal your FTP.
__________________
Envision, Energize, Enable
NomadVW is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 09:53 PM
  #1336  
crapweasel
Senior Member
 
crapweasel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 322
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I didn't even have that much TSS for a 5 hour century ride.
crapweasel is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 09:58 PM
  #1337  
jsutkeepspining
Banned.
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: ohioland/right near hicville farmtown
Posts: 4,813
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
my highest tss ever was 260. I don't know how you guys do these 300+ tss rides? I dont think i've ever been in a situation where i've needed to ride that hard for that long.
jsutkeepspining is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 10:00 PM
  #1338  
Hida Yanra
VeloSIRraptor
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Deschutes
Posts: 4,585
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Last team ride was today, went with shop team after a few months of riding with collegiate team - my legs weren't very awake at the beginning of the ride, but they came around.
It was a hard ride.

TSS Tracker:
Weds: 263
Thurs: 161
Fri: 192
Sat: 256

Studying done, time to take some exams :-)
It's stage racing time in OR next Friday.

Last edited by Hida Yanra; 02-23-13 at 10:03 PM.
Hida Yanra is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 10:10 PM
  #1339  
crapweasel
Senior Member
 
crapweasel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 322
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining
my highest tss ever was 260. I don't know how you guys do these 300+ tss rides? I dont think i've ever been in a situation where i've needed to ride that hard for that long.
3h at .85 gets you 230. Seems to me if you're racing 3+ hours you should easily get past 260. Even my long winter rides at .7 or so get me in the mid-to-high 200s.
crapweasel is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 10:15 PM
  #1340  
jsutkeepspining
Banned.
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: ohioland/right near hicville farmtown
Posts: 4,813
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
.85 is like 300 watts. Im a pretty lazy guy, its hard to work that hard in a race
jsutkeepspining is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 11:03 PM
  #1341  
waterrockets 
Making a kilometer blurry
 
waterrockets's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Austin (near TX)
Posts: 26,170

Bikes: rkwaki's porn collection

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 37 Post(s)
Liked 91 Times in 38 Posts
Originally Posted by MDcatV
so is it the year 2008 in BF.net time?
My FTP would indicate otherwise.
waterrockets is offline  
Old 02-23-13, 11:15 PM
  #1342  
echappist
fuggitivo solitario
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 9,107
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 243 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts
Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining
.85 is like 300 watts. Im a pretty lazy guy, its hard to work that hard in a race
you and your backdoor brags
echappist is offline  
Old 02-24-13, 02:59 AM
  #1343  
caloso
Senior Member
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur

Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2952 Post(s)
Liked 3,106 Times in 1,417 Posts
I think you guys are right. As I look at the data, it is time to bump up the FTP. Dang, I thought that was a big jump. Apparently it was.
caloso is offline  
Old 02-24-13, 06:49 AM
  #1344  
kensuf
My idea of fun
 
kensuf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 9,920

Bikes: '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '02 Kona Lavadome, '07 Giant TCR Advanced, '07 Karate Monkey

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 41 Post(s)
Liked 59 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining
my highest tss ever was 260. I don't know how you guys do these 300+ tss rides? I dont think i've ever been in a situation where i've needed to ride that hard for that long.
5-6 hour rides with 60+ minutes worth of intervals will put me into 300tss territory. I'm usually trashed for a good day or two after.
kensuf is offline  
Old 02-24-13, 06:52 AM
  #1345  
gsteinb
out walking the earth
Thread Starter
 
gsteinb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lake Placid, NY
Posts: 21,441
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 912 Post(s)
Liked 752 Times in 342 Posts
I may be burnt on BF. I had a similar post but deleted it because I didn't have the energy for the seemingly inevitable pissing match.
gsteinb is offline  
Old 02-24-13, 06:53 AM
  #1346  
gsteinb
out walking the earth
Thread Starter
 
gsteinb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lake Placid, NY
Posts: 21,441
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 912 Post(s)
Liked 752 Times in 342 Posts
Originally Posted by caloso
I think you guys are right. As I look at the data, it is time to bump up the FTP. Dang, I thought that was a big jump. Apparently it was.
you might want to actually test. guessing is for the iBike.
gsteinb is offline  
Old 02-24-13, 06:55 AM
  #1347  
Duke of Kent
Senior Member
 
Duke of Kent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Blacksburg, VA
Posts: 4,850

Bikes: Yeti ASRc, Focus Raven 29er, Flyxii FR316

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Longest workout/ride of the deployment.
Run: 1 mile warm up, 1/4 mile "on" at 5:00 pace, 1/4 mile "off" at 8:00 pace for 4 miles, 1 mile cool down. Bike: 5min warm up, 30min effort, 5min cooldown. Effort at "320w", but who knows how accurate that is. Last time I used a power meter was 2009. I've done well on Strava, and stack up well against guys I know are "pro" MTBers on 10-20min efforts, but that's not a good measure of performance. I could be a better bike handler than them, with a crappier engine, or vice versa.


In other news: I have a new Santa Cruz Blur LTc frame, DT Swiss EXM 150 fork, and various other parts waiting at home for me. Plus my lovely 29er HT. Will be racing XC and the East Coast Enduro series in 2014, if work/school allows.
Duke of Kent is offline  
Old 02-24-13, 07:44 AM
  #1348  
shovelhd
Senior Member
 
shovelhd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Western MA
Posts: 15,669

Bikes: Yes

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by gsteinb
I may be burnt on BF. I had a similar post but deleted it because I didn't have the energy for the seemingly inevitable pissing match.
You just need to race. 7 more days.
shovelhd is offline  
Old 02-24-13, 09:30 AM
  #1349  
gsteinb
out walking the earth
Thread Starter
 
gsteinb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lake Placid, NY
Posts: 21,441
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 912 Post(s)
Liked 752 Times in 342 Posts
For me to hit 465 thinking about racing would need to be worth a couple a hundred points.
gsteinb is offline  
Old 02-24-13, 10:26 AM
  #1350  
jsutkeepspining
Banned.
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: ohioland/right near hicville farmtown
Posts: 4,813
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
3 hours spinning away on the rollers. Felt nice, and limited coughing even with a descent 30 minute low cadence z3 section at the end.
jsutkeepspining is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.