Hands going numb
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Hands going numb
This has probably been beaten to death but I am pretty sure my upper body weight is the culprit. Usually starts after 30min and was really bad yesterday after 75. I couldn't go 5 min without having to shake the numbness out. I'm using padded gloves but it's not much padding. Has anyone had much luck with maybe more padding or flat carbon bars? It happens on my MTB also so I know it's not a fit issue.
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Better core strength, higher (or lower, ironically) bars and maybe a larger surface to grip on your bars. You can buy gel pads to wrap under your bar tape that will damp out the vibration and will also make the gripping surface larger, that might provide some immediate relief. I always have trouble with gloves that aren't somewhat loose too, seems like they jam back between the fingers if they're too tight and cause numbness.
I think most people have to deal with numb hands, it's just an unfortunate side effect of leaning on your hands for hours. However, if the numbness persists more than a few seconds after you pick your hands off the bars, don't just treat it as a nuisance.
I think most people have to deal with numb hands, it's just an unfortunate side effect of leaning on your hands for hours. However, if the numbness persists more than a few seconds after you pick your hands off the bars, don't just treat it as a nuisance.
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bars with various angled grip areas. so you can ride the tops, sides, hoods, drops etc. another thing is to make sure you are not tensing up (whole body not just hands). One trick is push your thumb and index finger together as hard as you can and then release. it allows you to pinpoint tension and then let it all go.
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This has probably been beaten to death but I am pretty sure my upper body weight is the culprit. Usually starts after 30min and was really bad yesterday after 75. I couldn't go 5 min without having to shake the numbness out. I'm using padded gloves but it's not much padding. Has anyone had much luck with maybe more padding or flat carbon bars? It happens on my MTB also so I know it's not a fit issue.
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use your phone leveling app and tilt up the nose of the saddle a degree or so. Keeps weight from wanting to slide into the bars and your wrist. Core strength will help too from getting your hands too heavy. Vary hand positions. Bring tools and rotate the bars, small adjustments at a time.
I don't use gloves unless cold or racing. And no padding as it increase angle to the wrist joints. I'd recommend padded bar tape. I like the Fizik padded performance tape.
Fizik Bar Tape Performance Colors from BikeBling.com
As far as MTB goes, more sweeping bar the better. 9* sweeps are nice and easy on the wrist.
I don't use gloves unless cold or racing. And no padding as it increase angle to the wrist joints. I'd recommend padded bar tape. I like the Fizik padded performance tape.
Fizik Bar Tape Performance Colors from BikeBling.com
As far as MTB goes, more sweeping bar the better. 9* sweeps are nice and easy on the wrist.
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If you said this to any coach in my day, the '70s, the first thing he would ask you is "how often do you change hand positions? What percentage of the time do you place you hands on the brake levers, behind the levers, in the drops and on the tops?" And if you answered 80% on the levers he would say that's your problem right there. We were taught to change often. Exception: more time could be spent in the drops because if set up right, it is such a natural hand and wrist position.
The straight handlebars of a MTB would probably create problems for me.
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The straight handlebars of a MTB would probably create problems for me.
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I had the same problem when I cycled 30 miles on my hybrid with flat bars (got pains in my arms after approx 26 miles) ... mainly in my right forearm, but the wind was brisk and head on
you can get some bar ends which will give you more had positions:
you can get some bar ends which will give you more had positions:
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I thought about that and went sans gloves the first 4 miles, but had to stop to put them on my hands were hurting so badly. So you might be right but for now the trade off is unbearable. I'm looking at these: Robot Check
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^^same here + cheap unknown carbon bars for that matter. Get some quality alum bars, padded grip, 28c tires. Stuff that won't snap if you take a pot hole or wind knocks over your bike when leaned of something.
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It's really about the extra surface area on the flat tops. I have no fear of Chinese carbon, or special desire for it. Most of the expensive carbon components are made in China or Taiwan. I'm am riding on the hoods most of the time but it doesn't matter where I put my hands. I may not be moving them enough though. If I'm going to be in the same gear for a little while I'll ride ride the tops of the bars. I'm still a little too fat to hit the drops comfortably. It may be something I just have to deal with until I lose all the extra weight.
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Be sure you aren't locking your elbows - keep some flex in them.
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This has probably been beaten to death but I am pretty sure my upper body weight is the culprit. Usually starts after 30min and was really bad yesterday after 75. I couldn't go 5 min without having to shake the numbness out. I'm using padded gloves but it's not much padding. Has anyone had much luck with maybe more padding or flat carbon bars? It happens on my MTB also so I know it's not a fit issue.
2. Sure... better (pronounced: MORE) padding can be a little bit of help. But better cycling posture is likely the solution.
Every cyclist needs fit on their bicycle. Many... if not most cyclists... can accomplish this with some youtube videos and a cycling friend. But you sound like you need a professional intervention. Get a proper fit from someone who knows what they are doing.
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Who is guaranteeing the safety or quality control of a $60 carbon handbar off Amazon? I'm sorry, but I would not waste my money on substandard parts to fix an issue which is unlikely caused by your handlebars.
I'm am riding on the hoods most of the time but it doesn't matter where I put my hands.
Have you tried double wrapping your handlebars? Gel inserts? There's a lot of stuff you could try before replacing your bars.
Your issue may be technique, locking elbows and gripping too hard will cause numbness.
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Also, if you're set on getting these bars, you might as well only pay $41 for them:
Aliexpress.com : Buy 2015 Bicicleta Cycling Full Carbon Fiber UD Glossy Road Bike Bicycle Handlebar Handle Bent Drop Bar Parts 31.8mm*400/420/440mm from Reliable bicycle ladies suppliers on Shenzhen Codream Technology Co., Ltd. | Alibaba Group
Judging by the fact that the delivery date on Amazon is a month from now, the ones of Amazon are shipping from China.
Aliexpress.com : Buy 2015 Bicicleta Cycling Full Carbon Fiber UD Glossy Road Bike Bicycle Handlebar Handle Bent Drop Bar Parts 31.8mm*400/420/440mm from Reliable bicycle ladies suppliers on Shenzhen Codream Technology Co., Ltd. | Alibaba Group
Judging by the fact that the delivery date on Amazon is a month from now, the ones of Amazon are shipping from China.
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So what happens if you ride with your hands on the tops? Do they still go numb? If yes then I'm not sure how a flat top handlebar is going to help.
Have you tried double wrapping your handlebars? Gel inserts? There's a lot of stuff you could try before replacing your bars.
Your issue may be technique, locking elbows and gripping too hard will cause numbness.
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1. Stop shaking the numbness out! Your body parts weren't made to be "shaken". You could damage your nerves doing that.
2. Sure... better (pronounced: MORE) padding can be a little bit of help. But better cycling posture is likely the solution.
Every cyclist needs fit on their bicycle. Many... if not most cyclists... can accomplish this with some youtube videos and a cycling friend. But you sound like you need a professional intervention. Get a proper fit from someone who knows what they are doing.
2. Sure... better (pronounced: MORE) padding can be a little bit of help. But better cycling posture is likely the solution.
Every cyclist needs fit on their bicycle. Many... if not most cyclists... can accomplish this with some youtube videos and a cycling friend. But you sound like you need a professional intervention. Get a proper fit from someone who knows what they are doing.
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It's entirely possible that hand position isn't your problem, at all. It could be your arms and shoulders. If you are significantly overweight, you may be partially pinching off the blood supply to your arms and hands when riding in certain positions. The problem could be all the way up in your armpits, where the artery is closer to the surface. Try riding with your elbows bent, and slightly akimbo (I just won a bet!). See if that makes a difference. If so, I don't know the solution, except to lose some weight.
I always ride with gloves after seeing what happened to my brother when he went down and put his hands out to catch himself and ended up with gravel embedded in his hands.
I always ride with gloves after seeing what happened to my brother when he went down and put his hands out to catch himself and ended up with gravel embedded in his hands.
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I believe blood flow has a lot to do with hand numbness. By analogy, you could have warm gloves but freeze because they are too tight and restrict blood flow.
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I fixed my numbness issue by switching out the Crosstrails 6 degree stem for a Ritchey 30 degree stem:
Robot Check
So much more comfortable. Although I just recently did this and have only tested it with my bike on the trainer.
Robot Check
So much more comfortable. Although I just recently did this and have only tested it with my bike on the trainer.
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You'd likely benefit from hitting up your LBS and getting a proper fit done. Hand numbness can be attributed to many things, and without seeing your position on the bike while riding, it's difficult to tell what the solution will be.
Could need to raise or lower the bars, might need a different length stem in conjunction with moving the height, saddle position may be a factor.
Could need to raise or lower the bars, might need a different length stem in conjunction with moving the height, saddle position may be a factor.
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Firstly, there's a big difference between China and Taiwan when it comes to quality. Secondly, those "quality" parts are made to specification that they pass a minimum quality and safety limit, and being backed up with a warantee from a trusted company who's reputation is at stake. This is what you get when you buy a "Made in Taiwan" part from a reputable company. The "they're all made in the same factory" argument is a fallacy.
Who is guaranteeing the safety or quality control of a $60 carbon handbar off Amazon? I'm sorry, but I would not waste my money on substandard parts to fix an issue which is unlikely caused by your handlebars.
So what happens if you ride with your hands on the tops? Do they still go numb? If yes then I'm not sure how a flat top handlebar is going to help.
Have you tried double wrapping your handlebars? Gel inserts? There's a lot of stuff you could try before replacing your bars.
Your issue may be technique, locking elbows and gripping too hard will cause numbness.
Who is guaranteeing the safety or quality control of a $60 carbon handbar off Amazon? I'm sorry, but I would not waste my money on substandard parts to fix an issue which is unlikely caused by your handlebars.
So what happens if you ride with your hands on the tops? Do they still go numb? If yes then I'm not sure how a flat top handlebar is going to help.
Have you tried double wrapping your handlebars? Gel inserts? There's a lot of stuff you could try before replacing your bars.
Your issue may be technique, locking elbows and gripping too hard will cause numbness.
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Pic of bike wold really help discussion. My old man back like my bars 2" higher than my seat on the cross check. Yours? Taller stem?