Anybody know about Milano bikes?
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Anybody know about Milano bikes?
An Italian brand. Picked up this bike today, not an high end bike by any means, but is amazingly light for gaspipe. I wonder what year it was made? Late/mid 60's? The brake cable for the rear runs through the top tube. The geometry is comfortable, not racing by any means. It has 27 inch wheels, so it was an import to the US I would think. Seems be associated with Bianchi per internet search. Like it, want to restore it and ride!
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Know little, not associated with Milano that were Alberto Masi's work before he was brave enough for the Importer to use Alberto's full name for the USA bikes.
Bike looks decent enough, should ride above its pricepoint.
Bike looks decent enough, should ride above its pricepoint.
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thank you for sharing this new find
marque -
the forum has had a number of threads on the marque called Milano Sport; this is the first can recall named simply Milano
frame -
constructed with Agrati "AM" pattern lug set ART. 000.8040/U "AM"
head appears bulge-formed which would make it item Nr. 000.8046
fork ends are likely Agrati Nr. 000.810
dropouts are likely Agrati Nr. 000.8002
bottom bracket shell is probable Agrati but cannot be identified from images provided; a number of models were produced
kitting -
somewhat unusual to encounter a three-plateau chainset on an Italian machine
riveted chainwheels appear they may be Cyclo; are you able to read the name on the crank arms?
pedals appear to be Sheffield brand model Nr. 633 by Noli-Cattaneo
bottle cage is REG (Rampinelli) model Nr. 164
stem appears it may be a design with a double binder, is this correct?
there are French and British produced stems with a double binder but have not previously seen an Italian one...
wheel rims look like they may be FIAMME yellow label
hubs appear to be five-piece steel, is there a marking on their barrels?
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suggestion -
readers would be able to give more and better information regarding the machine if larger format/high res images could be posted
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thank you for sharing this new find
marque -
the forum has had a number of threads on the marque called Milano Sport; this is the first can recall named simply Milano
frame -
constructed with Agrati "AM" pattern lug set ART. 000.8040/U "AM"
head appears bulge-formed which would make it item Nr. 000.8046
fork ends are likely Agrati Nr. 000.810
dropouts are likely Agrati Nr. 000.8002
bottom bracket shell is probable Agrati but cannot be identified from images provided; a number of models were produced
kitting -
somewhat unusual to encounter a three-plateau chainset on an Italian machine
riveted chainwheels appear they may be Cyclo; are you able to read the name on the crank arms?
pedals appear to be Sheffield brand model Nr. 633 by Noli-Cattaneo
bottle cage is REG (Rampinelli) model Nr. 164
stem appears it may be a design with a double binder, is this correct?
there are French and British produced stems with a double binder but have not previously seen an Italian one...
wheel rims look like they may be FIAMME yellow label
hubs appear to be five-piece steel, is there a marking on their barrels?
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suggestion -
readers would be able to give more and better information regarding the machine if larger format/high res images could be posted
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I'm in the same boat as juvela - I've seen a number of Milano Sports but this is the first "Milano" I've come across.
There were a few more pics in that listing, so I'll add those for reference/posterity:
The frame shows all the signs of Fiorelli production. It's hard to see in the pics, but there might be a number stamped along the top edge of the seat lug, on the DS, which was one of the locations Fiorelli stamped numbers (4 to 6 digits, most often 5). Even the "Milano" downtube decal design is very much in line with the Fiorelli decal:
Here's an example of a similar Fiorelli badged frame (albeit with slightly different head lugs):
There were a few more pics in that listing, so I'll add those for reference/posterity:
The frame shows all the signs of Fiorelli production. It's hard to see in the pics, but there might be a number stamped along the top edge of the seat lug, on the DS, which was one of the locations Fiorelli stamped numbers (4 to 6 digits, most often 5). Even the "Milano" downtube decal design is very much in line with the Fiorelli decal:
Here's an example of a similar Fiorelli badged frame (albeit with slightly different head lugs):
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First, Shp4man I hope you were able to procure this bike since it is TOO cool. Internal cables, quirky collection of parts including the triple. That paint will polish nicely and one gallon of evaporust will make the parts shiny and new-looking.
MauriceMoss juvela
Are those TA-like cotter-ed cranks Fratelli? Agrati? Gnutti? They almost look like a Milremo I was looking at one time.
What is the derailleur?
The stem looks like a rare Ambrosio girder/vertical bolt stem I was looking for when I was hopeful a project might emerge (it didn't)
https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.a...=102&AbsPos=36
MauriceMoss juvela
Are those TA-like cotter-ed cranks Fratelli? Agrati? Gnutti? They almost look like a Milremo I was looking at one time.
What is the derailleur?
The stem looks like a rare Ambrosio girder/vertical bolt stem I was looking for when I was hopeful a project might emerge (it didn't)
https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.a...=102&AbsPos=36
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Wonderful information as always DCI Moss!
wonder if marque may be a Fiorelli owned one as they own the Vittoria marque...
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rear mech Huret Allvit 1900
front mech Huret Allvit 600
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see from the additional pictures that i was in error thinking stem might be a double binder
regular old Ambrosio I-beam
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Wonderful information as always DCI Moss!
wonder if marque may be a Fiorelli owned one as they own the Vittoria marque...
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rear mech Huret Allvit 1900
front mech Huret Allvit 600
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see from the additional pictures that i was in error thinking stem might be a double binder
regular old Ambrosio I-beam
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Wasn't there a relation between the Milano brand and Masi?
Checked and found: since 1989, this frame is much younger.
Checked and found: since 1989, this frame is much younger.
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small bits -
headset appears to be a Way-Assauto
frame pump appears it may be Delta brand
the Delta crest is an image of a dromedary standing before a pyramid
possible you may discover the remains of a decalcomania transfer with this image on the pump body
rack looks like it could be an ESGE product
it has a "tongue" with a circular hole intended to fit over the saddle pillar which is not in use
instead it is affixed with a cord/shoelace
gear ensemble is mixed: Huret mechs paired with Campag levers
bottom bracket cable guide a possible clue as to what was original
could be either Campag part nr. 626 or Huret item 1846
bottom bracket assembly appears to be a Way-Assauto model
chainstay stop looks to be a Campag nr. 621
Italian colours band transfers on down & seat tubes read KORAL
is anyone familiar with this name? have not before encountered it
cyclometer appears Lucas
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small bits -
headset appears to be a Way-Assauto
frame pump appears it may be Delta brand
the Delta crest is an image of a dromedary standing before a pyramid
possible you may discover the remains of a decalcomania transfer with this image on the pump body
rack looks like it could be an ESGE product
it has a "tongue" with a circular hole intended to fit over the saddle pillar which is not in use
instead it is affixed with a cord/shoelace
gear ensemble is mixed: Huret mechs paired with Campag levers
bottom bracket cable guide a possible clue as to what was original
could be either Campag part nr. 626 or Huret item 1846
bottom bracket assembly appears to be a Way-Assauto model
chainstay stop looks to be a Campag nr. 621
Italian colours band transfers on down & seat tubes read KORAL
is anyone familiar with this name? have not before encountered it
cyclometer appears Lucas
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Last edited by juvela; 11-23-21 at 07:18 PM. Reason: addition
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Damn, you guys know your stuff. Thanks for all the great information! That Fiorelli is beautiful. I'm about halfway done with the restoration. I had to swap out the drop bars, old bad back (mine). I couldn't resist putting these mudguards on it, just seem to go well with it.