Converting 2006 Campy Chorus Double to Triple
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Converting 2006 Campy Chorus Double to Triple
I have a 2006 Spectrum Ti road bike. I'm running 2006 Chorus components (53/39 Ergo front, 13/29 cassette with long cage r/d). I wish to convert to a triple and for 2013 Campy is offering triple components in Athena (but not Chorus).
In addition to a new Athena crankset, bb and f/d, what other components will I need to change?
Specifically, in 2006, the Chorus brifters were for use with both double and triple cranks - will these work with the new Athena triple?
Additionally, can I use my current chain, cassette and r/d althought they are 10 speed and the new Athena triple is 11 spd?
Thanks.
In addition to a new Athena crankset, bb and f/d, what other components will I need to change?
Specifically, in 2006, the Chorus brifters were for use with both double and triple cranks - will these work with the new Athena triple?
Additionally, can I use my current chain, cassette and r/d althought they are 10 speed and the new Athena triple is 11 spd?
Thanks.
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You shouldn't use an Athena crank and FD unless you also want to convert to 11 speed. Campy offers both Centaur and Veloce 10 speed triple cranks and FDs.
If there's some reason that you really want the Athena crank, it would probably work OK with your 10 speed chain, but I would buy a 10 speed FD, that should work best with a 10 speed chain.
FWIW, here's how a pre-2009 ergo lever works, with a triple FD. There are 12 clicks available from your left shifter. It requires 7 clicks to cover the full range of travel. To make the shift from the little ring to the middle ring, it requires one full sweep of the finger lever (5 clicks), followed by one click of the thumb button to recenter the FD. The last three clicks of the finger lever will shift from the middle ring to the big ring.
https://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/gro...x3_catid_8.jsp
If there's some reason that you really want the Athena crank, it would probably work OK with your 10 speed chain, but I would buy a 10 speed FD, that should work best with a 10 speed chain.
FWIW, here's how a pre-2009 ergo lever works, with a triple FD. There are 12 clicks available from your left shifter. It requires 7 clicks to cover the full range of travel. To make the shift from the little ring to the middle ring, it requires one full sweep of the finger lever (5 clicks), followed by one click of the thumb button to recenter the FD. The last three clicks of the finger lever will shift from the middle ring to the big ring.
https://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/gro...x3_catid_8.jsp
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Or watch eBay until a Chorus 10 speed triple crank shows up.
There is one now listed at $437 including Chorus 10 speed triple crank with chainrings, Chorus carbon fiber medium cage rear dérailleur, bottom bracket tho it is Italian thread so might have to resell that. New in box. Maybe a bit steep but watch long enough and a used set will show up.
There is one now listed at $437 including Chorus 10 speed triple crank with chainrings, Chorus carbon fiber medium cage rear dérailleur, bottom bracket tho it is Italian thread so might have to resell that. New in box. Maybe a bit steep but watch long enough and a used set will show up.
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IMO the athena triple will work just fine. Dont see why it should not... the RD will work as long as you have no ideas of putting a cog larger than a 28 or a 29.
What im not sure is the brifter nor the FD, the reason im not sure is because never heard that chorus brifter was able to handle triple but from what i see (web) it should work just fine, the other reason is because record does work with triple.
The FD is a mystery because campagnolo made a triple chorus FD, and that one was built to handle a compact crankset (makes sense to me) Some how around the same era they started selling a FD that was able to handle it all, in your case no idea what you have and w/o testing no way to know, i differ from the other opinions just because i have done the weirdest stuff with campagnolo 10 stuff eventhought everywhere says is not possible. The beauty of campy...
Good luck
What im not sure is the brifter nor the FD, the reason im not sure is because never heard that chorus brifter was able to handle triple but from what i see (web) it should work just fine, the other reason is because record does work with triple.
The FD is a mystery because campagnolo made a triple chorus FD, and that one was built to handle a compact crankset (makes sense to me) Some how around the same era they started selling a FD that was able to handle it all, in your case no idea what you have and w/o testing no way to know, i differ from the other opinions just because i have done the weirdest stuff with campagnolo 10 stuff eventhought everywhere says is not possible. The beauty of campy...
Good luck
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^^^
You're a bit mistaken about the FDs. Campy has always made triple-specific FDs that are intended only to be used with a triple. None of the other FDs will operate a triple. During '06-'07 they made triple FDs, standard double FDs and compact-specific FDs. For 2008 and later, the standard FD was also intended for use with a compact, and that remains the case today.
If you were more familiar with Campy, you'd also know that all pre-2009 10 speed ergos work the same, regardless of the model. They all have the same 12 clicks available from the left finger lever and more than enough cable pull for any triple FD. The only exception is the Centaur and lower level '07-'08 models with the entirely different escape mechanism.
https://www.campagnolo.com/repository...spares06_A.pdf
https://www.campagnolo.com/repository...s07_A-0307.pdf
https://www.campagnolo.com/repository...s08_A_1007.pdf
You're a bit mistaken about the FDs. Campy has always made triple-specific FDs that are intended only to be used with a triple. None of the other FDs will operate a triple. During '06-'07 they made triple FDs, standard double FDs and compact-specific FDs. For 2008 and later, the standard FD was also intended for use with a compact, and that remains the case today.
If you were more familiar with Campy, you'd also know that all pre-2009 10 speed ergos work the same, regardless of the model. They all have the same 12 clicks available from the left finger lever and more than enough cable pull for any triple FD. The only exception is the Centaur and lower level '07-'08 models with the entirely different escape mechanism.
https://www.campagnolo.com/repository...spares06_A.pdf
https://www.campagnolo.com/repository...s07_A-0307.pdf
https://www.campagnolo.com/repository...s08_A_1007.pdf
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Remove the double and install a triple.. I have been using their Race Triple,
which uses a square taper symmetric ISO 111.. (steel frame)
now calling it in the Veloce group.
which uses a square taper symmetric ISO 111.. (steel frame)
now calling it in the Veloce group.
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All of the square taper triple cranks are now out of prodcution. Even Veloce uses a power-torque crank.
https://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/gro...x3_catid_8.jsp
https://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/gro...x3_catid_8.jsp
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Thanks for the replies.
jyl, yes my first choice would be to find a chorus triple crank, f/d and bb, but I have been unsuccessful so far.
fietsbob, I looked into the comp and race triples, but they only seem to come in 170 and 175 lengths and I prefer 172.5.
My questions really relate to what my options are if I cannot find the appropriate original Chorus parts.
The 2006 Chorus brifters indeed are "double / triple compatible" per the Campy catalog and DaveSSS has explained how they work.
I think what I am hearing is (1) I can use the Chorus brifters with modern Campy triple f/d and crank, and (2) although the 11 speed and 10 speed components may work together, I am more likely to get consistent performance by sticking with only 10 speed parts, which will work with my existing chain, cassette and r/d. DaveSSS, I can easily go with either the Centaur or Veloce 10- speed triple crank and the appropriate f/d and bb, rather than with the Athena parts.
Thanks again.
jyl, yes my first choice would be to find a chorus triple crank, f/d and bb, but I have been unsuccessful so far.
fietsbob, I looked into the comp and race triples, but they only seem to come in 170 and 175 lengths and I prefer 172.5.
My questions really relate to what my options are if I cannot find the appropriate original Chorus parts.
The 2006 Chorus brifters indeed are "double / triple compatible" per the Campy catalog and DaveSSS has explained how they work.
I think what I am hearing is (1) I can use the Chorus brifters with modern Campy triple f/d and crank, and (2) although the 11 speed and 10 speed components may work together, I am more likely to get consistent performance by sticking with only 10 speed parts, which will work with my existing chain, cassette and r/d. DaveSSS, I can easily go with either the Centaur or Veloce 10- speed triple crank and the appropriate f/d and bb, rather than with the Athena parts.
Thanks again.
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One other option, if you don't want 11 speed is to buy any other brand of 10 speed triple crank. I used FSA triple cranks for several years, because I preferred their 53/39/30 standard rings. You should still get a 10 speed FD to match the chain width.
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And the Athena is the 11 speed version and the Centaur and Veloce are the 10 speed version.
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