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Old 05-18-23, 08:40 PM
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PSA, Inflate tire to 80% psi

For longevity and "I know what psi my tires need to be...." I meant 80% of max psi. Refers to car tires as well..
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80% max psi is what i meant to say....
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Huh? So front and rear tires should get the same pressure. Wet and dry don't matter? Neither does rider weight? Or does one swap tire sizes ride to ride to meet these conditions and stay at that magic 80%?

If you were going to go by a magic percent, a given percentage of "squish", ie sidewall deflection would probably be better. (I'"d stick to my 5 psi difference front and rear. I like enough surplus air in front to cover hitting that pothole braking hard with all my weight on the front wheel. A moment where I would rather not suddenly blow the tire or wreck the rim.
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Originally Posted by rc5781
For longevity and "I know what psi my tires need to be...." I meant 80% of max psi. Refers to car tires as well..
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wrong and dangerous for cars
for cars you follow the manufacturers recommendations other wise you risk loss of control and handling and increase risk of blowouts with under inflation

for bikes there are any number of calculators that will give you a range based on weight, tire size and type there is not standard for all much less some vague 80%

Please don't post uninformed, dangerous crap when you don't know what you are talking about
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Originally Posted by rc5781
For longevity and "I know what psi my tires need to be...." I meant 80% of max psi. Refers to car tires as well..
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Not all identical size tires have the same Max Pressure rating.
Therefore your assertion is crap.
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We can agree that the o.p. misses the mark, but ... I have been riding since 1967 and I have never tried to maintain a differential between f/r. I have never used my weight to compute optimum psi. I do NOT take precipitation or lack of it into consideration. At zero dark thirty when I am heading out on the outbound commute there is only one thing I want to know: do the tires have air? A squeeze of the sidewalls (can't thumb the tire: fenders) tells me all I need to know. I've been doing it this way for too long to stop now.
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Folks can do stuff wrong for years and suffer no ill effects. One of the satisfactions of a hobby is taking the time to learn and do things right.
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I agree with the OP, as I too stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
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Originally Posted by rc5781
For longevity and "I know what psi my tires need to be...." I meant 80% of max psi. Refers to car tires as well..
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Just curious, do you have any sort of reference or citation describing the logic behind such a recommendation. At face value, it sounds to me like a rough rule-of-thumb of dubious origin, but if there is any science behind it, I'd like to see it.

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Originally Posted by Moe Zhoost
Just curious, do you have any sort of reference or citation describing the logic behind such a recommendation. At face value, it sounds to me like a rough rule-of-thumb of dubious origin, but if there is any science behind it, I'd like to see it.

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https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-re...0to%2045%20psi.

I just stretched an assumption to bicycle tires.
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30+ Yr Senior Master Automotive TechnicianAuthor has 1.9K answers and 1.9M answer views3yAs a 30+ yr auto tech AND front end specialist I have long held factory MINIMUM air specs are just that. MINIMUM.

I was given advice many years ago and it really holds true in what I witnessed over the years. If you take your tires max inflation and use 80% of that your going to get much better results in my opinion.

I like running small to medium cars at 40 psi. If it's auv/cuv try 42.

If it's too stiff/rough try dropping to 38 psi.

But try to keep the 80% , your tires will hold up much better.

I watched a lady with older car that came with actual 32–35 psi tires, door said like 28. With 51 psi tires that half flat.

She went to 40 and loves her new tires.

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Not much there except just another internet opinion, which seems to be more related to tire life than ride, handling, or other factors like diameter on 4WD vehicles. It doesn't really relate to bike tires, though if you follow the advice, you'll probably avoid pinch flats
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That's a stretch for sure. Here's a better idea Silca PSI Chart
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Originally Posted by rc5781
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-re...0to%2045%20psi.

I just stretched an assumption to bicycle tires.
The advice in that link is stupid. Most passenger cars use a pressure closer to 30psi, not 40. 40 will increase gas mileage at the sacrifice of breaking and turning traction.

Why would you extrapolate from some dude that posted on Quora like it is coming from a useful reference?
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Originally Posted by Kontact
The advice in that link is stupid. Most passenger cars use a pressure closer to 30psi, not 40. 40 will increase gas mileage at the sacrifice of breaking and turning traction.

Why would you extrapolate from some dude that posted on Quora like it is coming from a useful reference?
I admit it was a bit of a reckless assumption. I had a lot of red wine last night. However, everything I state is from good results for my own bike, cars, etc.
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Originally Posted by rc5781
I admit it was a bit of a reckless assumption. I had a lot of red wine last night. However, everything I state is from good results for my own bike, cars, etc.
How long have you been driving around in a car with the tires 30% overinflated? Have you noticed the additional centerline wear? How's the emergency handling?
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here is what a large reputable tire manufacturer says for their tires.

https://www.toyotires.com/media/pxcj...s_20200723.pdf
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
That's a stretch for sure. Here's a better idea Silca PSI Chart
https://www.renehersecycles.com/tire...re-calculator/
or this one. curiously enough the if I average the RH soft and firm I get really close to the Silca psi..
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I must admit that I'm getting a little nostalgic for the simplicity of the days when thin was in (are there still 19mm tires?) and max pressure was a must to avoid pinch flats. Not missing the pinch flats though.
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Originally Posted by mitchmellow62
I must admit that I'm getting a little nostalgic for the simplicity of the days when thin was in (are there still 19mm tires?) and max pressure was a must to avoid pinch flats.
I imagine if I tried I might be able to find some 19mm tires. I wish they were more readily available, and slicks would be even better. I still run my tires at the max (140 psi), and stating so usually triggers a large portion of BF folks.
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Originally Posted by smd4
I imagine if I tried I might be able to find some 19mm tires. I wish they were more readily available, and slicks would be even better. I still run my tires at the max (140 psi), and stating so usually triggers a large portion of BF folks.
Wouldn't solid rubber tires be a better choice?
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Originally Posted by smd4
I imagine if I tried I might be able to find some 19mm tires. I wish they were more readily available, and slicks would be even better. I still run my tires at the max (140 psi), and stating so usually triggers a large portion of BF folks.
I have some 30 year old /contis in 23's that would probably be rock hard
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Originally Posted by Kontact
Wouldn't solid rubber tires be a better choice?
Apparently you can't feel the difference between pneumatic and solid tires. Can't help you there, bud.
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Originally Posted by smd4
stating so usually triggers a large portion of BF folks.
See? It's like shooting fish in a barrel!
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Originally Posted by mitchmellow62
I must admit that I'm getting a little nostalgic for the simplicity of the days when thin was in (are there still 19mm tires?) and max pressure was a must to avoid pinch flats. Not missing the pinch flats though.
I miss the road surfaces that permitted one to ride with tires less than 38mm wide.
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