How to create a SUPER INNER TUBE!
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How to create a SUPER INNER TUBE!
I ride a 27.5 mountain bike mostly in the suburbs and kept getting flats on my rear wheel. I'm guessing they were pinch flats because I wasn't finding any kind of shrapnel in the vicinity of the flat on the tire. Anyway, here's what I did and haven't gotten a flat since.
I took my inner tube that got a flat and cut out the valve system. When replacing a new inner tube I first put the old inner tube into the tire, then put in the new inner tube. This effectively results in an inner tube with 2 times thickness. Worked like a charm. Will be doing this on my front tire as well, but haven't gotten a flat yet. I HATE flats, especially when you're exactly the furthest point from your return destination, thus I share...
I took my inner tube that got a flat and cut out the valve system. When replacing a new inner tube I first put the old inner tube into the tire, then put in the new inner tube. This effectively results in an inner tube with 2 times thickness. Worked like a charm. Will be doing this on my front tire as well, but haven't gotten a flat yet. I HATE flats, especially when you're exactly the furthest point from your return destination, thus I share...
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1. you created a tire liner. (nice) If it works for you, perfect!
2. Consider puncture resistant tires if punctures become a problem in the future. (I have ranted about the marginal protection of tire liners and slime tubes over and over so I'll save you some time)
2. Consider puncture resistant tires if punctures become a problem in the future. (I have ranted about the marginal protection of tire liners and slime tubes over and over so I'll save you some time)
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1. you created a tire liner. (nice) If it works for you, perfect!
2. Consider puncture resistant tires if punctures become a problem in the future. (I have ranted about the marginal protection of tire liners and slime tubes over and over so I'll save you some time)
2. Consider puncture resistant tires if punctures become a problem in the future. (I have ranted about the marginal protection of tire liners and slime tubes over and over so I'll save you some time)
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If these are pinch flats, much easier is a few more psi of air in your tires. (Are you getting two holes side by side perhaps a half inch apart? Classic not enough air. Yes, enough cushion may stop it but a little more air will save you work plus make your ride a touch faster, sportier, maybe even more fun.)
If these are not pinch flats but caused by debris, carry on or take CrimsonEclipse's advice (or use sealant or go tubeless or ... Lots of options and many threads on the subject.
If these are not pinch flats but caused by debris, carry on or take CrimsonEclipse's advice (or use sealant or go tubeless or ... Lots of options and many threads on the subject.
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In terms of liners I would go for Tannus Armour which is a thick lightweight foam which actually gives you something. A thin rubber liner maybe from an old tube is marginally better maybe in some situations but at that point I would rather just have a good tire and quality tube.
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Just about any thorn-resistant tube that meets the end of its service life around here gets repurposed in this manner. Not for my own bikes (I use SpinSkins or good plastic liners), but bikes I build for others and nonprofits.
When installing the tube, the added thickness of the added liner can affect the tube diameter, and so it's a good idea to have as much air out of the tube as practical to avoid folding the tube in on itself - which is eventually likely to create a flat on its own due to rubbing of the folds.
When installing the tube, the added thickness of the added liner can affect the tube diameter, and so it's a good idea to have as much air out of the tube as practical to avoid folding the tube in on itself - which is eventually likely to create a flat on its own due to rubbing of the folds.
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You could take another tire with a minimal number of knobs or none at all like a smooth road tire..., cut the beads off it and use it to line the new tire. Install & inflate a thorn resistant tube. Bingo-bango. A tube in a tire in a tire! Roofin' nailz got nuthin' on you.
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If you're inflating the tire to 80% psi, it's very unlikely that you're getting pinch flats.
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I'm not sure that an additional liner, DIY or otherwise, would do much to prevent pinch flats. I hope it works for you, though.
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Careful adding another tube. It is difficult to get both in there without any creases and will eventually cause the tube to fail.
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Sorry I hate goo slime forever.
Using a discarded inner tube as a liner is an old trick that gets done to a lot of kids bikes.
I hate flats, especially for my ebike since I can venture out very far with it.
Tire failure prevention is not difficult at all.
Your first line of defense is a good strong gravel tire or ebike rated tire, Schwalbe has a ton of those.
Then for the tire liner, I use Mr.Tuffy, go read up about them.
Last, choose a inner tube that's as large as possible so it don't stretch. If the tire is a 700x35, don't use a 700x23-35 inner tube. Use the one that is 700x35-50.
I have yet to experience a failure from doing the above three.
Sorry I hate goo slime forever. Perhaps because every time I remove a tire from a rim, I get a messy surprise.
I hate flats, especially for my ebike since I can venture out very far with it.
Tire failure prevention is not difficult at all.
Your first line of defense is a good strong gravel tire or ebike rated tire, Schwalbe has a ton of those.
Then for the tire liner, I use Mr.Tuffy, go read up about them.
Last, choose a inner tube that's as large as possible so it don't stretch. If the tire is a 700x35, don't use a 700x23-35 inner tube. Use the one that is 700x35-50.
I have yet to experience a failure from doing the above three.
Sorry I hate goo slime forever. Perhaps because every time I remove a tire from a rim, I get a messy surprise.
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A tube in a tube? Seems like you are doubling the rolling resistance that the tube causes. It's partly the reason some went to tubeless tires. To get rid of that extra rolling resistance. Perhaps we should use latex tubes? But then again that would seem to be about as beneficial as just a butyl tube. Maybe not.
I haven't flatted in almost a year and a half. I'm not sure why I'd even worry so much about trying to prevent a flat.
I haven't flatted in almost a year and a half. I'm not sure why I'd even worry so much about trying to prevent a flat.
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You can also get solid rubber tires, no inflation needed.
Benefits: Never flats. You get to enjoy the history before John Dunlap invented the pneumatic tire.
Downside: You find out why Mr. Dunlap invented the pneumatic tire.
Benefits: Never flats. You get to enjoy the history before John Dunlap invented the pneumatic tire.
Downside: You find out why Mr. Dunlap invented the pneumatic tire.