The Dutch invasion (or show us your DUTCH bikes)
#1751
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I guess I never shared the Duell Vienna here.
Got it as a frameset
Built it up with Campagnolo Super Record/Record parts.
Got it as a frameset
Built it up with Campagnolo Super Record/Record parts.
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Steel is real...and comfy.
Steel is real...and comfy.
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#1752
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Location: Netherlands
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Colors and fork make it a Dutch Fausto Coppi by Masciaghi. Beautiful.
#1753
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Today I have completed my most extensive bike rebuilt ever. It all started in August 2018 when I came across a rather neglected Gazelle Special frame from 1996. The seller mentioned in his advert the frame was formerly owned by a famous world champion in sports, it took my interest and so I wrote an extensive message why I had to own this frame. Even though I had no clue who that famous pre-owner was, I was very happy to get a message a few days later I had been chosen to buy this frame. And so I went on to pick it up.
I was told by the seller the seat post was stuck in the frame, but since it was all there I decided it would be an easy job getting it out. How wrong could I be ... Anyway, the world famous pre-owner of this frame was none other than Ard Schenk, world champion ice skating in the 1970's. That made this deal even more interesting for me, as I always like a bike with a good story attached to it.
Most parts had already been taken off the frame, but still the bottom bracket was left in it, so I knew which groupset belonged on the bike when given to Ard Schenk (I presume he never had to buy a bike, good PR from Gazelle made sure he always had one). It was a Shimano Dura Ace 7400/7410 groupset. I managed to get hold of the set quite easily, from a guy that had only used it indoors with his Tacx trainer. Lovely condition!
Still the issue with the stuck seatpost. After using a hacksaw, a bath with some chemicals in it and some other tricks it was still VERY stuck indeed ...
So I called in the cavalry and sent the frame to M-gineering, who replaced the whole seat tube! The first serious bill was on its way, but I was determined to get this on-of-a-kind bike back on the road.
Then the frame was sent on to the paint shop, who not only painted the entire frame a lovely shade of green, but also rechromed the front fork and the rear stays. Another expensive job ...
So at last the actuel rebuilt could get started. I came across a lot of problems, which slowed me down considerably. My NOS wheelset I bought had a small plastic bearing cover fitted incorrect in the rear hub, so it broke on assembly of the cassette. It took me 3 months to find a replacement. Also the cable guide on the bottom bracket gave me a serious headache, for some reason I could not fit an standard screw into it. Took me another 2 weeks to find out how to fit this correctly. Also having my kids at home all day due to COVID-19 virus (school closed) did not give me the energy to go 100% for it. But today I fitted the last cable caps and took it for its first spin in years.
As a special tribute to Ard Schenk I had a decal made with his signature to put on the frame, right next to the seat post on the top tube. That is usually where all famous riders put their name on the frame.
I am very glad this project has been completed now. It was an honour rebuilding the bike to its former glory, it rides lovely, and even though I have at the end spent a ridiculous amount of money (paint and chrome alone came in at € 800) it is a real stunner in my collection. On to the next one!
I was told by the seller the seat post was stuck in the frame, but since it was all there I decided it would be an easy job getting it out. How wrong could I be ... Anyway, the world famous pre-owner of this frame was none other than Ard Schenk, world champion ice skating in the 1970's. That made this deal even more interesting for me, as I always like a bike with a good story attached to it.
Most parts had already been taken off the frame, but still the bottom bracket was left in it, so I knew which groupset belonged on the bike when given to Ard Schenk (I presume he never had to buy a bike, good PR from Gazelle made sure he always had one). It was a Shimano Dura Ace 7400/7410 groupset. I managed to get hold of the set quite easily, from a guy that had only used it indoors with his Tacx trainer. Lovely condition!
Still the issue with the stuck seatpost. After using a hacksaw, a bath with some chemicals in it and some other tricks it was still VERY stuck indeed ...
So I called in the cavalry and sent the frame to M-gineering, who replaced the whole seat tube! The first serious bill was on its way, but I was determined to get this on-of-a-kind bike back on the road.
Then the frame was sent on to the paint shop, who not only painted the entire frame a lovely shade of green, but also rechromed the front fork and the rear stays. Another expensive job ...
So at last the actuel rebuilt could get started. I came across a lot of problems, which slowed me down considerably. My NOS wheelset I bought had a small plastic bearing cover fitted incorrect in the rear hub, so it broke on assembly of the cassette. It took me 3 months to find a replacement. Also the cable guide on the bottom bracket gave me a serious headache, for some reason I could not fit an standard screw into it. Took me another 2 weeks to find out how to fit this correctly. Also having my kids at home all day due to COVID-19 virus (school closed) did not give me the energy to go 100% for it. But today I fitted the last cable caps and took it for its first spin in years.
As a special tribute to Ard Schenk I had a decal made with his signature to put on the frame, right next to the seat post on the top tube. That is usually where all famous riders put their name on the frame.
I am very glad this project has been completed now. It was an honour rebuilding the bike to its former glory, it rides lovely, and even though I have at the end spent a ridiculous amount of money (paint and chrome alone came in at € 800) it is a real stunner in my collection. On to the next one!
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Today I have completed my most extensive bike rebuilt ever. It all started in August 2018 when I came across a rather neglected Gazelle Special frame from 1996. The seller mentioned in his advert the frame was formerly owned by a famous world champion in sports, it took my interest and so I wrote an extensive message why I had to own this frame. Even though I had no clue who that famous pre-owner was, I was very happy to get a message a few days later I had been chosen to buy this frame. And so I went on to pick it up.
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I am very glad this project has been completed now. It was an honour rebuilding the bike to its former glory, it rides lovely, and even though I have at the end spent a ridiculous amount of money (paint and chrome alone came in at € 800) it is a real stunner in my collection. On to the next one!
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I am very glad this project has been completed now. It was an honour rebuilding the bike to its former glory, it rides lovely, and even though I have at the end spent a ridiculous amount of money (paint and chrome alone came in at € 800) it is a real stunner in my collection. On to the next one!
#1756
Shifting is fun!
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^ Nice!
It keeps amazing me how well those Union Sakai bikes hold up over the years.
It keeps amazing me how well those Union Sakai bikes hold up over the years.
#1757
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This week I finally found the frame I have been looking for for at least 8 years. A Gazelle Exception 731 OS from 1996. Size 62 cm.
Needless to tell I bought it immediatelly. I have a NOS Shimano 6500 Ultegra groupset waiting for it. But first it needs a paint job. But I am a bit in dought, wether to keep the original paint scheme in red/white of go for a Orange color (as can been seen in the 1996 Gazelle catalogus). The Goldline things will for sure disappear, I believen this was added later on.
Needless to tell I bought it immediatelly. I have a NOS Shimano 6500 Ultegra groupset waiting for it. But first it needs a paint job. But I am a bit in dought, wether to keep the original paint scheme in red/white of go for a Orange color (as can been seen in the 1996 Gazelle catalogus). The Goldline things will for sure disappear, I believen this was added later on.
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Nice bikes.
Makes me glad I have a Duell frame stashed away for later this year/next year, to built it up. Hopefully half September.
Still, I'd like a Union or RIH in my size (60/62).
I will keep looking!
Makes me glad I have a Duell frame stashed away for later this year/next year, to built it up. Hopefully half September.
Still, I'd like a Union or RIH in my size (60/62).
I will keep looking!
#1760
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My 1986 Gazelle shortly before I sold it. Great city bike. I just didn't ride it enough since I switched to recumbents.
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Anyone feel like rescuing this poor Noblesse?
bicycle frame material: other/unknownbicycle type: other
frame size: Not sure
wheel size: other/unknown
I don’t know a whole heap about this bike other than it was made in Holland in 1970 by a brand called “Noblesse”. Got it as a gift last summer and have only ridden it once, not really my style but I think someone with a keen eye for vintage bikes would love it! It’s been sitting on my balcony the past year untouched. Definitely a bike that could use some TLC, needs some new tubes and brake work, paint is chipped and is rusted on the body. Never seen a bike like this before though! Has the old school Dressguard and Chaincase - for thee most proper lady!
Shoot me an email if you have any more questions - or even any further info on this kind/brand of bike. I can’t find much through my research!
Thanks and have a great day OBO
Noblesse Vintage 1970 Women’s bike - $75
bicycle frame material: other/unknownbicycle type: other
frame size: Not sure
wheel size: other/unknown
I don’t know a whole heap about this bike other than it was made in Holland in 1970 by a brand called “Noblesse”. Got it as a gift last summer and have only ridden it once, not really my style but I think someone with a keen eye for vintage bikes would love it! It’s been sitting on my balcony the past year untouched. Definitely a bike that could use some TLC, needs some new tubes and brake work, paint is chipped and is rusted on the body. Never seen a bike like this before though! Has the old school Dressguard and Chaincase - for thee most proper lady!
Shoot me an email if you have any more questions - or even any further info on this kind/brand of bike. I can’t find much through my research!
Thanks and have a great day OBO
#1763
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I have bought a frame but I can't find a thing about it ... it is a frame from Kersten in Nijmegen, I think it is from the 80's, looking at a 126mm rear wheel insert and the brake cable goes over the frame. Unfortunately the shop itself can't help me either, since the previous owner died in 2021 and the new owners just bought the name Kersten Wielersport and did not get the archive or anything. I know Kersten had several frames made by several builders, but I wonder wether anybody can shine some light on the history of the frame. It was built with Columbus tubes.
Here is what I have bought :
Here is what I have bought :
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#1764
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Pedaleur was and still is used as a name for bikeshops en there were at least two cycling clubs with that name. I don't recognize this sticker. But I like it.
#1765
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Now for something completely different -
Here's my Fongers single speed, being modeled by my granddaughter. The story goes that my nephew in Maine was perusing Craigslist and happened upon a Fongers bicycle for sale in Washington DC. He told my son who lives just outside DC about it and he went down and bought it from the seller who gave him a discount because it is our family name. He surprised me with it during a visit up north. Not good for much but it adorns my barn. We also visited the Velorama bicycle museum in Nijmegen, NL during a vacation to Germany several years ago with a particular interest in the Fongers bicycle company to which we may be very distantly related.
Here's my Fongers single speed, being modeled by my granddaughter. The story goes that my nephew in Maine was perusing Craigslist and happened upon a Fongers bicycle for sale in Washington DC. He told my son who lives just outside DC about it and he went down and bought it from the seller who gave him a discount because it is our family name. He surprised me with it during a visit up north. Not good for much but it adorns my barn. We also visited the Velorama bicycle museum in Nijmegen, NL during a vacation to Germany several years ago with a particular interest in the Fongers bicycle company to which we may be very distantly related.
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#1768
Vintage Guy
Gazelle 753
I am too new to post a photo, but I have a lovely Gazelle Champion Mondial in Reynolds 753 tubing. Green and pearl white tubing. Lots of Gazelle logos. Beautifully thinned lugs - much nicer than a normal production bicycle's lugs, so I am thinking that they gave the 753 bikes extra effort. This one is outfitted with a Campagnolo C Record group with Delta brakes. in almost new condition - a very nice bicycle. My vintage bicycle dealer thinks it is from the late 1980's. Can anyone guide me in interpreting the serial number to get to a year of production?
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Thanks very much!
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There were always a lot of options as color combinations, cams etcetera. So maybe yours got things the ones in the catalog don't.
#1772
Vintage Guy
I like this bike! And I believe that the Dutch bikes are under appreciated in the US because their brands were not marketed here.
#1773
Vintage Guy
Very sexy bike. Love the top of the seat stays.
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What started out as just thinking I would be able to ride it as it was, has turned into a full overhaul and clean up. The grease in the bottom bracket, headset, and hubs had turned into a semi-petrified very sticky goo. Headset was cleaned, hubs cleaned and got new bearings all around, all packed with NFS grease. The bottom bracket was very rough when turned by hand. I replaced that with a Shimano UN71. I happened to have most of an NOS UniGlide cassette, so I did a little creative disassembling and now have 5 out of 6 gears being new, and a 28 big gear to hopefully help with the hills a bit. Installed a new Sram PC890 chain I had been keeping for a special occasion. Disassembled, cleaned, and lubed the derailleurs and shifters. Found some new Campagnolo shifter cables at the bike thrift store, put those on. Brake calipers and brake levers were fully disassembled, cleaned, lubed, and rebuilt. Brake levers got nice used Dia Compe gum hoods. I put some NOS Shimano SIS cables and cable housing, because I had them laying around. Wheels got cleaned with some mild steel wool, which really bought out the shine. I put on new Vittoria Rubino Pro tires (700 x 25). Brooks Professional saddle installed. I found a 90mm Dia Compe stem at the local bike thrift store, which I think will give me the ever so slight length increase I felt I needed on my first ride. Rewrapped the handlebars with Newbaums cloth tape that I got from the Box-Of-Crap a few years ago. Pedals were greased, NOS Christophe toe clips installed (sent to me out of the blue by a good friend), and some red Christophe straps put on.
That's where I'm at as of now. I thought it was pretty smooth and nice the first time I rode it, so I was shocked in what "poor" condition certain components were when I tore things apart. With all this maintenance and changes, I can only imagine rides in the future will be a considerable improvement!
#1775
Vintage Guy
Gazelle 753
I get to post photos now, so this is my Royal Dutch Gazelle, Champion Mondial 753. I never thought I would love a bike with a green colorway, but this one is really pretty in the sunlight with the pearl white contrast.
Gazelle 753
Gazelle 753
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