400 km unsupported?
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400 km unsupported?
Hi, this is my first post to the LD forum.
I'm planning to do my first 400 km ride this weekend (Ottawa to Oshawa, Ontario) and I am just wondering how much equipment I should bring.
Now normally, this would be a two day ride and no big deal for me, but my plan this time is to do it all in one shot. The first half from Ottawa to Kingston is 180 km and I have done this ride a few times before. Thus, I intend to start off in the dark, and aim to arrive in Kingston just after sunrise. The second half, Kingston to Oshawa (suburb of Toronto), is a new route for me so I am doing it during the day. It is about 240 km and since it is during the day I will be able to refuel in the numerous towns along the way.
Basically, it is only the 180 km night ride that I am a bit concerned about. The roads are very low-traffic, I have good lighting and one of those safety reflective vests as well. So I'm not too worried about visibility. However, there probably won't be any opportunities to resupply because I'll be going through small towns in the middle of the night.
Can I get some advice on what to bring? I have a saddle bag which has two tubes, patch kit, tire boots, spoke wrench, multi tool, and room for my wallet and cell phone. I usually carry food in my jersey pockets and two water bottles on the bike. I do have panniers but I feel like they're overkill for this. On the other hand, I am used to stopping at stores on my long rides to resupply.
So what would you guys pack on a ride like this?
I'm planning to do my first 400 km ride this weekend (Ottawa to Oshawa, Ontario) and I am just wondering how much equipment I should bring.
Now normally, this would be a two day ride and no big deal for me, but my plan this time is to do it all in one shot. The first half from Ottawa to Kingston is 180 km and I have done this ride a few times before. Thus, I intend to start off in the dark, and aim to arrive in Kingston just after sunrise. The second half, Kingston to Oshawa (suburb of Toronto), is a new route for me so I am doing it during the day. It is about 240 km and since it is during the day I will be able to refuel in the numerous towns along the way.
Basically, it is only the 180 km night ride that I am a bit concerned about. The roads are very low-traffic, I have good lighting and one of those safety reflective vests as well. So I'm not too worried about visibility. However, there probably won't be any opportunities to resupply because I'll be going through small towns in the middle of the night.
Can I get some advice on what to bring? I have a saddle bag which has two tubes, patch kit, tire boots, spoke wrench, multi tool, and room for my wallet and cell phone. I usually carry food in my jersey pockets and two water bottles on the bike. I do have panniers but I feel like they're overkill for this. On the other hand, I am used to stopping at stores on my long rides to resupply.
So what would you guys pack on a ride like this?
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Can I get some advice on what to bring? I have a saddle bag which has two tubes, patch kit, tire boots, spoke wrench, multi tool, and room for my wallet and cell phone. I usually carry food in my jersey pockets and two water bottles on the bike. I do have panniers but I feel like they're overkill for this. On the other hand, I am used to stopping at stores on my long rides to resupply.
So what would you guys pack on a ride like this?
So what would you guys pack on a ride like this?
For 180 km, I find that packing all off the food that I'll need for the ride in my pockets gets to overload the pocket and makes it difficult to find what I need or want. You might want to consider keeping some of your food in your saddle bag and moving them to pockets as you eat your way through the food at hand.
I also find that two water bottles (assuming 750 ml bottles each) is insufficient for me for a ride of that lenght. I'll usually empty the bottles within about 130 or 150km. You might want to consider larger bottles. Also, keep in mind that even if stores are closed, vending machines tend to run 24 hours a day, and can be a useful source of water or potato chips or chocolate bars late at night. A vending machine with good inventory is also a bit of a precious commodity late at night, so if, at some point in your ride, you have any doubts about whether your supplies will last distance, if you see an operational vending machine, stop and top up your supplies before you get desperate.
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Sounds like a fun ride, and yeah, panniers would be overkill. Do you have a trunk bag to go on top of the rear-rack of maybe a handlebar bag (for additional food). It would most likely give you maximum storage, but besides food the rest of your list looks solid.
Is that anywhere near Windsor/Belle Plaine? My in-laws live there.
Is that anywhere near Windsor/Belle Plaine? My in-laws live there.
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Can I get some advice on what to bring?
But, OK - ask others to guess for you....
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I would add a few things
Sounds like a brevet to me, so pack as if you are going on one.
a) Duct tape, unroll around a pencil about 6 feet worth.
b) Spokes, check length for rear both sides and front. They take little room and
tape them to to frame or rear rack bag.
c) Basic first aid, bandages, gauze, Advil.
d) Endurolyte pills.
e) Extra batteries of whatever model you are using in your flashlight. If the flashlight has a Battery pack and you will not be able to charge it, then bring an extra strong flashlight.
f) Helmet light, small but able to scan the road. Critters move around at night, deer, maybe a bear?
g)Extra tire if you can
h) Tire boot kit
I) Pump, test it before you go.
j) Patch kit, ya never know
k) cell phone, extra battery
l) Zip lock bag for cell phone, wallet. It can rain, plus sweat can ruin either.
m) Sunscreen
n) EXtra pair of socks
o) leatherman type pliers,
p) extra nuts and bolt for rack
q) Toilet paper, hey ya never know
None of this weighs too much, better to have than not.
Good Luck
a) Duct tape, unroll around a pencil about 6 feet worth.
b) Spokes, check length for rear both sides and front. They take little room and
tape them to to frame or rear rack bag.
c) Basic first aid, bandages, gauze, Advil.
d) Endurolyte pills.
e) Extra batteries of whatever model you are using in your flashlight. If the flashlight has a Battery pack and you will not be able to charge it, then bring an extra strong flashlight.
f) Helmet light, small but able to scan the road. Critters move around at night, deer, maybe a bear?
g)Extra tire if you can
h) Tire boot kit
I) Pump, test it before you go.
j) Patch kit, ya never know
k) cell phone, extra battery
l) Zip lock bag for cell phone, wallet. It can rain, plus sweat can ruin either.
m) Sunscreen
n) EXtra pair of socks
o) leatherman type pliers,
p) extra nuts and bolt for rack
q) Toilet paper, hey ya never know
None of this weighs too much, better to have than not.
Good Luck