Can We Really Prevent the E-bike Theft?
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On some of the ebike forums there is some speculation that ebikes will replace cars for shorter distance errands and commuting. I think this is wrong for a number of reasons but one of the major ones is theft.
The average ebike is worth more than the average commuter bike and given the ebike market these days, they are enticing targets for thieves.
Some places in Europe you see covered, guarded parking lots for bikes. You pay a small fee, you get a ticket for your bike and you redeem it to claim, just like a coat check.
I have never seen one of these in North America, in deed most bicycle parking is pathetic in terms of security and convenience.
The local MEC has bike parking right outside the front door, but it is a notorious place for bike theft. They are always encouraging people to leave their cars at home, to take public transportation or ride their bikes.
Yet they provide nothing to make it safe, no security camera, no check in, nothing. They are willing to pay lip service to cyclists but not willing to do anything for security.
Businesses and municipalities could do more to help keep your bicycle secure, but they don't.
My ebike is an ugly conversion, I always take the battery off and lock it with a kryptonite and have been lucky so far.
The average ebike is worth more than the average commuter bike and given the ebike market these days, they are enticing targets for thieves.
Some places in Europe you see covered, guarded parking lots for bikes. You pay a small fee, you get a ticket for your bike and you redeem it to claim, just like a coat check.
I have never seen one of these in North America, in deed most bicycle parking is pathetic in terms of security and convenience.
The local MEC has bike parking right outside the front door, but it is a notorious place for bike theft. They are always encouraging people to leave their cars at home, to take public transportation or ride their bikes.
Yet they provide nothing to make it safe, no security camera, no check in, nothing. They are willing to pay lip service to cyclists but not willing to do anything for security.
Businesses and municipalities could do more to help keep your bicycle secure, but they don't.
My ebike is an ugly conversion, I always take the battery off and lock it with a kryptonite and have been lucky so far.
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On some of the ebike forums there is some speculation that ebikes will replace cars for shorter distance errands and commuting. I think this is wrong for a number of reasons but one of the major ones is theft.
The average ebike is worth more than the average commuter bike and given the ebike market these days, they are enticing targets for thieves.
Some places in Europe you see covered, guarded parking lots for bikes. You pay a small fee, you get a ticket for your bike and you redeem it to claim, just like a coat check.
I have never seen one of these in North America, in deed most bicycle parking is pathetic in terms of security and convenience.
The local MEC has bike parking right outside the front door, but it is a notorious place for bike theft. They are always encouraging people to leave their cars at home, to take public transportation or ride their bikes.
Yet they provide nothing to make it safe, no security camera, no check in, nothing. They are willing to pay lip service to cyclists but not willing to do anything for security.
Businesses and municipalities could do more to help keep your bicycle secure, but they don't.
My ebike is an ugly conversion, I always take the battery off and lock it with a kryptonite and have been lucky so far.
The average ebike is worth more than the average commuter bike and given the ebike market these days, they are enticing targets for thieves.
Some places in Europe you see covered, guarded parking lots for bikes. You pay a small fee, you get a ticket for your bike and you redeem it to claim, just like a coat check.
I have never seen one of these in North America, in deed most bicycle parking is pathetic in terms of security and convenience.
The local MEC has bike parking right outside the front door, but it is a notorious place for bike theft. They are always encouraging people to leave their cars at home, to take public transportation or ride their bikes.
Yet they provide nothing to make it safe, no security camera, no check in, nothing. They are willing to pay lip service to cyclists but not willing to do anything for security.
Businesses and municipalities could do more to help keep your bicycle secure, but they don't.
My ebike is an ugly conversion, I always take the battery off and lock it with a kryptonite and have been lucky so far.
to commit to making it happen (along with better infrastructure). I love the BikeLInk lockers and wish they had them everywhere - if they did I might not have bought a folding bike I can take into places..
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When I used my "e" for errands (bank, bike shop, market.), I was able to take it inside the establishment and watch it while shopping. COVID stopped those activities since I had everything delivered for awhile. Now, I'm in a more urban area and the few trips are mostly by car.
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The Bart transit stations in the Bay Area have BikeLink lockers. 5 cents per hour, secure locked parking. Also a couple Bart stations have staffed parking like you described, and one even houses a repair shop. It's possible and can work really well. Communities just have
to commit to making it happen (along with better infrastructure). I love the BikeLInk lockers and wish they had them everywhere - if they did I might not have bought a folding bike I can take into places..
to commit to making it happen (along with better infrastructure). I love the BikeLInk lockers and wish they had them everywhere - if they did I might not have bought a folding bike I can take into places..
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My lifestyle does not lend itself to shopping or even errands on a bike, or commuting, but if it did, I think I would fabricate couple of shoes to lock the wheels up, and also have a built in pad lock shroud on it to eliminate the use of bolt cutters being used. A battery powered grinder with a zip cut wheel on it, would still be a possible threat, but with a shoe on each wheel it would take a little while to do. Of course they could still pick it up and throw it in the back of a truck, or maybe carry it off.
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My lifestyle does not lend itself to shopping or even errands on a bike, or commuting, but if it did, I think I would fabricate couple of shoes to lock the wheels up, and also have a built in pad lock shroud on it to eliminate the use of bolt cutters being used. A battery powered grinder with a zip cut wheel on it, would still be a possible threat, but with a shoe on each wheel it would take a little while to do. Of course they could still pick it up and throw it in the back of a truck, or maybe carry it off.
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The infrastructure isn't setup for human powered bicycles, let alone ebikes in most cities.
Investment from city planners needs to be put into infrastructure that human powered bicycles as well as ebikes can be a viable option for many errands in a city rather than a car.
Investment from city planners needs to be put into infrastructure that human powered bicycles as well as ebikes can be a viable option for many errands in a city rather than a car.
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Folding bikes tend to be heavy so they are solution for traveling by train or for those with very little space as home for storing a regular bicycle. The Blix Vika+ Flex weighs a little under 55 lbs and still a hefty 47 lbs with the battery pack removed. It is also a 7-speed bike designed for city use.
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Of course a quality bike lock is key…. I just put on Pinhead skewers and seat post lock system…. Seems fine…. Anyone have long term experience with these?
the key they provide is difficult to tighten down in regards to the seat post so I tapped threads into the back of the key and glued an Allen bolt on back… this way I can use a tool to help leverage.
the key they provide is difficult to tighten down in regards to the seat post so I tapped threads into the back of the key and glued an Allen bolt on back… this way I can use a tool to help leverage.
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Pinhead thoughts?
Of course a quality bike lock is key…. I just put on Pinhead skewers and seat post lock system…. Seems fine…. Anyone have long term experience with these?
the key they provide is difficult to tighten down in regards to the seat post so I tapped threads into the back of the key and glued an Allen bolt on back… this way I can use a tool to help leverage.
the key they provide is difficult to tighten down in regards to the seat post so I tapped threads into the back of the key and glued an Allen bolt on back… this way I can use a tool to help leverage.
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The skewers are great, the seat post made well, But the key is a poor design… not enough leverage to make the seat post tight enough…and slips out of the bolt too easily .. to help it work better I tapped a thread so I can screw in an Allen bolt …. Worked fine whenever you tighten But unscrewed when loosen. I then epoxy glued it in the thread and now I can use my T-handle Allen tool to make this workable.
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The Penta Pin security bolt is a better way to secure the seat post on a bike. Not sure though whether this could cause problems with a dropper post.
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Of course a quality bike lock is key…. I just put on Pinhead skewers and seat post lock system…. Seems fine…. Anyone have long term experience with these?
the key they provide is difficult to tighten down in regards to the seat post so I tapped threads into the back of the key and glued an Allen bolt on back… this way I can use a tool to help leverage.
the key they provide is difficult to tighten down in regards to the seat post so I tapped threads into the back of the key and glued an Allen bolt on back… this way I can use a tool to help leverage.
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The skewers are great, the seat post made well, But the key is a poor design… not enough leverage to make the seat post tight enough…and slips out of the bolt too easily .. to help it work better I tapped a thread so I can screw in an Allen bolt …. Worked fine whenever you tighten But unscrewed when loosen. I then epoxy glued it in the thread and now I can use my T-handle Allen tool to make this workable.
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Many years ago the University of California at Davis had roughly 20,000 students and it was such a large campus that a great many of them rode bikes to get from one class to the next. A great many bikes were stolen and in one case a bike rack that held a dozen bikes with them all carefully chained and locked to the rack was stolen. Men with a flat bed truck pulled up beside the rack and carried it with the bikes to the truck and drove off. After that incident the university security people decided to move the racks away from any road where a repeat could easily occur.
Whenever we have massive unemployment and no safety net and even grocery workers at places like Krogers where 14% of them are homeless, there will be desperate people looking for extra income. Unfortunately we are trained to look at petty criminals who break into a house and not the corporate criminals who take the entire house.
Whenever we have massive unemployment and no safety net and even grocery workers at places like Krogers where 14% of them are homeless, there will be desperate people looking for extra income. Unfortunately we are trained to look at petty criminals who break into a house and not the corporate criminals who take the entire house.
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I'm surprised that there aren't more e-locking systems, like the transponder systems on cars where unless your key electronically "unlocks" the anti-theft system, the vehicle engine will not remain running (or not start at all).
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And while e-bikes are fairly expensive, theft of any bike, e or not, is still something that is hard to prevent. And there are some pretty darn expensive non e-bikes.
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ABUS makes a whole line of them all of their Smart locks have alarms but they also do a bunch of stuff that uses a key. However you might depending on what you have consider finding a shop that is taking part in their Keyed-A-Like program, especially if you already have a plus keyed item like a battery lock. You can order as many locks as you need based on that key number which makes it super handy,