Thank god we aren't the full lycra kit wearing fools.
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11-13-23, 10:25 AM
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So, BITD, Out Groups would tell jokes about the In Group, but never where In Group could hear. You cited Eddie Murphy, but part of what made him so prominent is he was doing the jokes that nobody previously would. Which was very much my point and thank you for making it.
You stated: "Lemme see. You know how, when we were growing up, there were tons of ethnic jokes? Polish jokes, Irish jokes, Italian jokes, etc. All based around some stereotype of that group.
You know what kind of jokes there WEREN'T? WASP jokes."
Me: pointing out there actually were WASP jokes - you just weren't in the group telling them. Jokes about white people in the US date back hundreds of years. Black comics in the 70s were wildly popular among mostly black audiences for telling white jokes. A few of these broke through (Murphy, Pryor, etc) but it wasn't solely based on their white jokes - they just were funny across mixed groups.
But there were other instances of white jokes being popular mainstream. Archie Bunker's character was created by Lear to be a punchline of a bigoted stereotypical white guy (though he was Catholic) and was one of the most popular shows of its time. Sanford and Son show made fun of white people all the time.
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11-13-23, 10:26 AM
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I think I must have missed that one.
Actually, while y'all are up in arms because you seem to think a cartoonist is advocating murder, I think part of the humor derives from the generally silly attire we sometimes wear. Out of all sports attire, cyclists garb often does look pretty ridiculous.
Actually, while y'all are up in arms because you seem to think a cartoonist is advocating murder, I think part of the humor derives from the generally silly attire we sometimes wear. Out of all sports attire, cyclists garb often does look pretty ridiculous.
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I think we should remember that 'good' humor we all grew up with.
Elmer Fudd trying to shoot a cwazy wabbit.
Yosemite Sam out to shoot most everything in sight
WileECoyote forever exploding Acme dynamite
Pepe LePeuw (sp?) romantically assaulting every female skunk
Popeye's spinach lobby's lies
and all those characters besmirched with speech impediments.
.
.
.
ad nauseum...
Did you laugh at the expense of any of those characters? Well then, you must be weird or insensitive, shame on you!
HaHaHaHa
We weren't so sensitive in the past, and lacked social media frenzy.
and real cyclists were Men who wore Wool and cinched their toe straps.
Ya dirty varmit
Elmer Fudd trying to shoot a cwazy wabbit.
Yosemite Sam out to shoot most everything in sight
WileECoyote forever exploding Acme dynamite
Pepe LePeuw (sp?) romantically assaulting every female skunk
Popeye's spinach lobby's lies
and all those characters besmirched with speech impediments.
.
.
.
ad nauseum...
Did you laugh at the expense of any of those characters? Well then, you must be weird or insensitive, shame on you!
HaHaHaHa
We weren't so sensitive in the past, and lacked social media frenzy.
and real cyclists were Men who wore Wool and cinched their toe straps.
Ya dirty varmit
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wow you think it will be hilarious for a kid to get killed? wtf
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Only 1,000 cyclists die every year on the road. Won't Pastis continue his ridiculing cyclists comics if his dead kid adds just one more? He's fair, right? He's already written he wants to eliminate all of them. He knows cyclists can't fight back, especially when they're dead. It'll be hilarious! Don't you have a sense of humor? It's just a comic strip!
11-13-23, 11:31 AM
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LOL.
You stated: "Lemme see. You know how, when we were growing up, there were tons of ethnic jokes? Polish jokes, Irish jokes, Italian jokes, etc. All based around some stereotype of that group.
You know what kind of jokes there WEREN'T? WASP jokes."
Me: pointing out there actually were WASP jokes - you just weren't in the group telling them. Jokes about white people in the US date back hundreds of years. Black comics in the 70s were wildly popular among mostly black audiences for telling white jokes. A few of these broke through (Murphy, Pryor, etc) but it wasn't solely based on their white jokes - they just were funny across mixed groups.
But there were other instances of white jokes being popular mainstream. Archie Bunker's character was created by Lear to be a punchline of a bigoted stereotypical white guy (though he was Catholic) and was one of the most popular shows of its time. Sanford and Son show made fun of white people all the time.
You: I win!
You stated: "Lemme see. You know how, when we were growing up, there were tons of ethnic jokes? Polish jokes, Irish jokes, Italian jokes, etc. All based around some stereotype of that group.
You know what kind of jokes there WEREN'T? WASP jokes."
Me: pointing out there actually were WASP jokes - you just weren't in the group telling them. Jokes about white people in the US date back hundreds of years. Black comics in the 70s were wildly popular among mostly black audiences for telling white jokes. A few of these broke through (Murphy, Pryor, etc) but it wasn't solely based on their white jokes - they just were funny across mixed groups.
But there were other instances of white jokes being popular mainstream. Archie Bunker's character was created by Lear to be a punchline of a bigoted stereotypical white guy (though he was Catholic) and was one of the most popular shows of its time. Sanford and Son show made fun of white people all the time.
You: I win!
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11-13-23, 12:18 PM
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KUMBAYAH, MY LORD, KUMBAYAH . . . .
Folks, you are all talking past each other. You're not going to convince each other. Intentional misstating of someone else's position and pointless ad hominem attacks belong on cable network news, not in C&V.
The horse is well and truly dead - for the love of God, stop beating it.
Folks, you are all talking past each other. You're not going to convince each other. Intentional misstating of someone else's position and pointless ad hominem attacks belong on cable network news, not in C&V.
The horse is well and truly dead - for the love of God, stop beating it.
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Enough of this arguing. The thread is about cartoons making fun of cyclists. That’s it. However some think cyclists endangerment is involved in the humor.
Listen if you want to continue with the original fun, please do. But if you don’t see the humor in the cartoons, don’t try changing things with off topic posts and just move on to another thread.
Thanks,Stan
Listen if you want to continue with the original fun, please do. But if you don’t see the humor in the cartoons, don’t try changing things with off topic posts and just move on to another thread.
Thanks,Stan
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11-13-23, 12:41 PM
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KUMBAYAH, MY LORD, KUMBAYAH . . . .
Folks, you are all talking past each other. You're not going to convince each other. Intentional misstating of someone else's position and pointless ad hominem attacks belong on cable network news, not in C&V.
The horse is well and truly dead - for the love of God, stop beating it.
Folks, you are all talking past each other. You're not going to convince each other. Intentional misstating of someone else's position and pointless ad hominem attacks belong on cable network news, not in C&V.
The horse is well and truly dead - for the love of God, stop beating it.
11-13-23, 12:46 PM
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11-13-23, 01:12 PM
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Enough of this arguing. The thread is about cartoons making fun of cyclists. That’s it. However some think cyclists endangerment is involved in the humor. Listen if you want to continue with the original fun, please do. But if you don’t see the humor in the cartoons, don’t try changing things with off topic posts and just move on to another thread. Thanks,Stan
Don't you think the author would act differently if one of his own family were one of the victims?
If it were your family, wouldn't you see a joke about "eliminating all cyclists" differently?
And if you could, please tell us how this is "off topic" on a cycling forum where 1,000 cyclists are killed on the road each year. Thank you, Stan!
11-13-23, 02:04 PM
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When I took 208 volts across the chest at work one day, my brother wrote a few primitive comic books about it. I found them funny. Here's the cover of the first one:
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Just realized there's a lot of money being left on the table here. All some enterprising artist has to do is turn Larry Sellers' adventures into a comic strip.
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For some reason, this just popped into my head. I don't know why...
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Daily cartooning is a really tough gig, I get that. And there's a spark of humor in the one strip where the cyclist is getting surreptitiously juiced. Just a spark.
But the rest? They're just phoning it in - "Hmmm, everyone hates cyclists, so I'll make fun of them." That Sunday strip, the one about how to eliminate all cyclists? That's probably the laziest of them - take a stupid premise and push it out to 7 or 8 panels.
Gary Larson and Bill Watterson both quit at what we perceive to be their peak, but if it kept them from falling into easy, derivative, un-funny funnies, it was probably good that they did.
But the rest? They're just phoning it in - "Hmmm, everyone hates cyclists, so I'll make fun of them." That Sunday strip, the one about how to eliminate all cyclists? That's probably the laziest of them - take a stupid premise and push it out to 7 or 8 panels.
Gary Larson and Bill Watterson both quit at what we perceive to be their peak, but if it kept them from falling into easy, derivative, un-funny funnies, it was probably good that they did.
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11-13-23, 03:17 PM
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Are there any comics today that elicit outright guffaws and belly laughs?
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No. That's what made "The Far Side" and "Calvin And Hobbes" so special - they were like oases in the desert of the funny pages. I mean, for gods sake "Nancy" and "The Family Circus" were standards of the funny pages for decades. Talk about phoning it in!
EDIT: Before anyone says it, no, I could NOT do any better.
EDIT: Before anyone says it, no, I could NOT do any better.
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This thread is a good reality check. Yup, I’m still living in the land of the perpetually offended.
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One thing's for sure, Magnus White's folks don't have these "comics" on their fridge.
