This chart of tubing weights is eye-opening!
08-01-13, 12:10 PM
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This chart of tubing weights is eye-opening!
I started a new thread because I didn't want to sidetrack the gaspipe thread, but these numbers are interesting. What year is this from? Early '80's maybe?
Check out the weight difference between Tange 1 and 2- Also the comparison of Columbus tubing, Ishiwata and the variants of Reynolds 531.
Great chart, thanks for posting it, Rubberlegs.
Check out the weight difference between Tange 1 and 2- Also the comparison of Columbus tubing, Ishiwata and the variants of Reynolds 531.
Great chart, thanks for posting it, Rubberlegs.
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The chart must be pre-Columbus SLX, as it's not included....
I suspect it's not that much lighter than SL. but I notice that as I suspected, the SV980 tubing is quite near to what Reynolds 753 weighs..... So it's in good company weight-wise.
I also noticed how really light the best Tange and Ishiwata tubing really are.... So light! Were they special track/keirin tubesets never used on road bikes??
I suspect it's not that much lighter than SL. but I notice that as I suspected, the SV980 tubing is quite near to what Reynolds 753 weighs..... So it's in good company weight-wise.
I also noticed how really light the best Tange and Ishiwata tubing really are.... So light! Were they special track/keirin tubesets never used on road bikes??
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I've read (so it must be true 
) that there is and was no standard 531 tube set. The weight listed might be an average. Or it might be way off.
) that there is and was no standard 531 tube set. The weight listed might be an average. Or it might be way off.
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Sure wish there was a chart for the Max weight that the completed frames could tolerate...
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Numbers all over the place...and the thinness of some of the tubing...WOW!!! No WONDER it is "Easy" to dent some high end tubing...VERY thin in some areas! A cylinder is strong, but one little ding can really reduce it's strength and cause a failure.
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https://www.retrobike.co.uk/gallery2/...kai+1.jpg.html
Makes for a very noodly and fragile, dent-prone road bike.
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Sekai 5000 is an example of a road bike built with paper-thin 0.3mm tange professional tubing.
https://www.retrobike.co.uk/gallery2/...kai+1.jpg.html
Makes for a very noodly and fragile, dent-prone road bike.
https://www.retrobike.co.uk/gallery2/...kai+1.jpg.html
Makes for a very noodly and fragile, dent-prone road bike.
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Not sure what the 531 that Raleigh, et. al were using back in the '70s (before the 'C' etc. designations appeared). I assumed this was standard 531, at the 2,140g weight.
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[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 14"]This information, except for the column on the far right, was compiled from sales catalogues and correspondences with. tube manufacturers and importers in the early 80's. It's possible to special order some tubes in different thicknesses and tapers for almost every tubeset listed In this table The tubes listed here are the ones you're most likely to encounter.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 357, colspan: 5"] Butting configurations are read as follows: [/TD]
[TD="width: 294, colspan: 9"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 651, colspan: 14"]plain gauge 0.9 single butted 0.9/0.6 double butted 0.9/0.6/0.9 triple butted 0.9/0.6/0.8 quadruple butted 0.9/0.6/0.7/0.8 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 651, colspan: 14"]In addition to being single butted, the steering columns for each of the following tubesets contain straight or helical reinforcing ribs to better resist torsional (twisting) stresses: COLUMBUS RECORD, KL, SLX, SL, SP, OR; ISHIWATA 015, 017, 019, EXO-L, EXOM, MTB; SUPER VITUS 980, VITUS 181; TANGS PRESTIGE, TANGS CHAMPION # 1-4, TANGS MTB. [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 651, colspan: 14"]2. The " TYPE(s) OF CYCLING" and "MAXIMUM RIDER WEIGHT" columns are intended to be only rough guidelines. Each of these can vary depending upon frame size, expected frame life, desired performance characteristics, weight, etc.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 651, colspan: 14"]For Information on the NEW Reynolds 953 STAINLESS tubing follow this link: 953[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"][/TD]
[TD="width: 467, colspan: 11"]Thickness, in millimeters[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"][/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]MAXIMUM[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"][/TD]
[TD="width: 64"][/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="width: 77"][/TD]
[TD="width: 48"][/TD]
[TD="width: 58"][/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="width: 62"][/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]TUBESET[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]RIDER[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]BRAND[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]TOP TUBE[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]DOWN TUBE[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]SEAT TUBE[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]HEAD[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]FORK[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]CHAIN[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]SEAT[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]STEERING[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]WEIGHT,[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]WEIGHT 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"][/TD]
[TD="width: 64"][/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="width: 77"][/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]TUBE[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]BLADES[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]STAYS[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]STAYS[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]COLUMN[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]in grams[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]in pounds[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Columbus Record
[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.65[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1610[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]125[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Columbus SL
[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.7/0.5/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.7/0.5/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.5/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.65[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1670[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]125[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Columbus SLX[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.65[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1959[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Columbus SL[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]09/06/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]09/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.65[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1925[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Columbus SP[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.05[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.65[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2295[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Columbus OR[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.1/0.8/0.9/1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.7/1.65[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2580[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]all weights[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata 015[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.6/0.4/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.6/0.35/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/0.4[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1595[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]125[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata 017[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.7/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.7/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1855[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata 019[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.8/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2,2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2015[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata 022[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2185[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata EXO-L[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.8/0.5/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.8/0.5/0.4/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.8/0.5/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1950[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata EXO-M[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]09/06/05/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0.5/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.6/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2125[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata EX-F[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.6/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"][/TD]
[TD="width: 76"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata EX-T[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]10/7/2008[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.0/0.7/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.0/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]-[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata MAGNY-V[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.0/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2235[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata MAGNY-X[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/06/09[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2420[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata MTB-D[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.2/0.9/1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.2/0.9/1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.2/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.7/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]-[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]all weights[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 753T[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.7/0.3/07[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]08/0.5/08[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/0.3[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.0/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1.55[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1750[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 753R[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.7/0.5/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.0/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1.55[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1800[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 531 PRO I[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.7/0.5/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.0/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1.55[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1900[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 531 C[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0:9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.8/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.0/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.3/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2050[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 531ST[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.8/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.2/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.3/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2200[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 501[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0:9/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.3/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2300[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 501 All- Terrain[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/7./1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.0/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.4/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.3/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2900[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]all weights[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Super Vitus 980[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.5/0:8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.8/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1805[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Vitus 181[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/0.7/1.1[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1 0/07/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.0/07[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2241[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange Prestige[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.1/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.7/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.2/0.9/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1987[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange Champion #1[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2220[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange Champion #2[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2,290[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange Champion #3[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.0/0.7/1[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0 9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2360[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange Champion #4[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2270[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange Mangaloy 2001[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.0/07/0.85[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.7/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2415[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange MTB[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.2/0.9/1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.0/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.6/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]3207[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]all weights[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 14"]This information, except for the column on the far right, was compiled from sales catalogues and correspondences with. tube manufacturers and importers in the early 80's. It's possible to special order some tubes in different thicknesses and tapers for almost every tubeset listed In this table The tubes listed here are the ones you're most likely to encounter.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 357, colspan: 5"] Butting configurations are read as follows: [/TD]
[TD="width: 294, colspan: 9"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 651, colspan: 14"]plain gauge 0.9 single butted 0.9/0.6 double butted 0.9/0.6/0.9 triple butted 0.9/0.6/0.8 quadruple butted 0.9/0.6/0.7/0.8 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 651, colspan: 14"]In addition to being single butted, the steering columns for each of the following tubesets contain straight or helical reinforcing ribs to better resist torsional (twisting) stresses: COLUMBUS RECORD, KL, SLX, SL, SP, OR; ISHIWATA 015, 017, 019, EXO-L, EXOM, MTB; SUPER VITUS 980, VITUS 181; TANGS PRESTIGE, TANGS CHAMPION # 1-4, TANGS MTB. [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 651, colspan: 14"]2. The " TYPE(s) OF CYCLING" and "MAXIMUM RIDER WEIGHT" columns are intended to be only rough guidelines. Each of these can vary depending upon frame size, expected frame life, desired performance characteristics, weight, etc.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 651, colspan: 14"]For Information on the NEW Reynolds 953 STAINLESS tubing follow this link: 953[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"][/TD]
[TD="width: 467, colspan: 11"]Thickness, in millimeters[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"][/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]MAXIMUM[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"][/TD]
[TD="width: 64"][/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="width: 77"][/TD]
[TD="width: 48"][/TD]
[TD="width: 58"][/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="width: 62"][/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]TUBESET[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]RIDER[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]BRAND[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]TOP TUBE[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]DOWN TUBE[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]SEAT TUBE[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]HEAD[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]FORK[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]CHAIN[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]SEAT[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]STEERING[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]WEIGHT,[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]WEIGHT 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"][/TD]
[TD="width: 64"][/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="width: 77"][/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]TUBE[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]BLADES[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]STAYS[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]STAYS[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]COLUMN[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]in grams[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]in pounds[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Columbus Record
[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.65[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1610[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]125[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Columbus SL
[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.7/0.5/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.7/0.5/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.5/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.65[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1670[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]125[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Columbus SLX[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.65[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1959[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Columbus SL[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]09/06/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]09/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.65[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1925[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Columbus SP[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.05[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.65[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2295[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Columbus OR[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.1/0.8/0.9/1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.7/1.65[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2580[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]all weights[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata 015[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.6/0.4/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.6/0.35/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/0.4[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1595[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]125[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata 017[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.7/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.7/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1855[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata 019[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.8/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2,2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2015[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata 022[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2185[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata EXO-L[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.8/0.5/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.8/0.5/0.4/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.8/0.5/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1950[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata EXO-M[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]09/06/05/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0.5/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.6/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2125[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata EX-F[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.6/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"][/TD]
[TD="width: 76"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata EX-T[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]10/7/2008[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.0/0.7/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.0/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.2/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]-[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata MAGNY-V[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.0/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2235[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata MAGNY-X[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/06/09[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2420[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Ishiwata MTB-D[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.2/0.9/1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.2/0.9/1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.2/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.7/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]-[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]all weights[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 753T[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.7/0.3/07[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]08/0.5/08[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/0.3[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.0/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1.55[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1750[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 753R[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.7/0.5/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.0/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1.55[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1800[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 531 PRO I[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.7/0.5/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.7/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.0/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1.55[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1900[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 531 C[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0:9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.8/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.0/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.3/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2050[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 531ST[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.8/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.2/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.3/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2200[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 501[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0:9/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.3/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2300[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Reynolds 501 All- Terrain[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/7./1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.0/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.4/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.3/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2900[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]all weights[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Super Vitus 980[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.5/0:8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.8/0.5[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1805[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Vitus 181[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/0.7/1.1[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1 0/07/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.0/07[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2241[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange Prestige[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.1/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.7/0.4/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.2/0.9/0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]1987[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]150[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange Champion #1[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.8/0.5/0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2220[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange Champion #2[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2,290[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange Champion #3[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.0/0.7/1[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0 9/0.6/0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2360[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange Champion #4[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]0.9/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]0.9/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]0.9/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.5/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2270[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange Mangaloy 2001[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.0/07/0.85[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.7/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2415[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 122"]Tange MTB[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]1.0/0.7/1.0[/TD]
[TD="width: 94, colspan: 2"]1.2/0.9/1.2[/TD]
[TD="width: 77"]1.0/0.7[/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 58"]1.1[/TD]
[TD="width: 69, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 57, colspan: 2"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]2.6/1.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 62"]3207[/TD]
[TD="width: 76"]all weights[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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I could very well be wrong, because this is second hand or third hand information, but what I read is that there WAS NO STANDARD tube set, at least with Reynolds. We believed there was, but there wasn't. The builder (Raleigh, whoever) had to specify each tube and perhaps the specs of each tube.
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All number with the exception of rider weight were "compiled from sales catalogues and correspondences with. tube manufacturers and importers." Do you suppose these are the equivalent of today's "target weights?" We know how (in)accurate those are.
As for rider weight, he doesn't tell us where he got those numbers.
Brent
As for rider weight, he doesn't tell us where he got those numbers.
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Thank you for the information and the education, Gentlemen.
Now I ask you, what sort of bicycle do I get that negates the extra ~15 pounds of weight (fat that is) that I carry?
Now I ask you, what sort of bicycle do I get that negates the extra ~15 pounds of weight (fat that is) that I carry?
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Ooh, I'm almost light enough to ride a SP or 501 frame. Hooray for me.
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In fairness, the manufacturers have to assume the worst case, in every respect. when publishing such figures, lest they get sued.
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At 235 I'm still to heavy for my SLX PX-10 - RATS!!!
OH Well - My 531 and ChroMo frames have been carrying the load so I can't complain to much but I sure would like to get to that SLX PX-10...
Nice thread...
OH Well - My 531 and ChroMo frames have been carrying the load so I can't complain to much but I sure would like to get to that SLX PX-10...
Nice thread...
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Excellent material. Thanks for posting.
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I could very well be wrong, because this is second hand or third hand information, but what I read is that there WAS NO STANDARD tube set, at least with Reynolds. We believed there was, but there wasn't. The builder (Raleigh, whoever) had to specify each tube and perhaps the specs of each tube.
Oh, and BTW, those wall thicknesses are tenths of mm - Reynolds was at least at that time (70's - 80's) making their tubes to SWG standards, so 8/5/8 would be (I think...) 21/24/21 ga.
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I just wish some older tubes like Accles & Pollock Kromo were included.
(Great info, I just complain about everything!
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(Great info, I just complain about everything!
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And Falck!
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I sure hope that SLX frame I'm building up won't crumble to dust underneath me. Not sure whether I'd rather worry about steel collapsing or carbon asploding.
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