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05-30-23, 08:45 AM
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No kidding? Well, I'm gonna need some details. 
Gordon built this for me around 1989, and it was his 33rd single frame (he did a lot of tandems too).
I've put a bit more than 60,000 miles on it, and it's held up pretty well.
Dave Huff, who sort of took over for Gordon, repainted it and spread the rear end to 130mm around 2007.
Steve in Peoria
Gordon built this for me around 1989, and it was his 33rd single frame (he did a lot of tandems too).
I've put a bit more than 60,000 miles on it, and it's held up pretty well.
Dave Huff, who sort of took over for Gordon, repainted it and spread the rear end to 130mm around 2007.
Steve in Peoria
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No kidding? Well, I'm gonna need some details.
Gordon built this for me around 1989, and it was his 33rd single frame (he did a lot of tandems too).
I've put a bit more than 60,000 miles on it, and it's held up pretty well.
Dave Huff, who sort of took over for Gordon, repainted it and spread the rear end to 130mm around 2007.
Steve in Peoria
Gordon built this for me around 1989, and it was his 33rd single frame (he did a lot of tandems too).
I've put a bit more than 60,000 miles on it, and it's held up pretty well.
Dave Huff, who sort of took over for Gordon, repainted it and spread the rear end to 130mm around 2007.
Steve in Peoria
Like yours, his is a beautifully fillet brazed frame. I love lugs, but sometimes I think fillet brazing is even prettier.
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I'm very happy with my B&M Toplight Line Small. It was $26 when I bought it, now up to $31. I'd buy another in a heartbeat.
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05-30-23, 09:22 AM
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His son, John, had just had his frame repainted, and had not yet built it up again. He was showing it to us, and I said, "Hey, wait a minute -- your NAME is on the frame!" He had built it with his dad.
Like yours, his is a beautifully fillet brazed frame. I love lugs, but sometimes I think fillet brazing is even prettier.
Like yours, his is a beautifully fillet brazed frame. I love lugs, but sometimes I think fillet brazing is even prettier.
Nowadays, it just looks like the aluminum or carbon frames, with one tube flowing into another.
At least it's got a nice headbadge...
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05-30-23, 09:53 AM
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I can't seem to kill mine (original? Planet Bike Super Flash), maybe 1 out of 3 that I bought, is unreliable? much better units out there, I guess. started using mine in 2008? on the road, I use 2, 1 on rear rack & 1 on left drop bar. I've shared these before, so excuse me for doing it again. I use them w/ a rear reflector but there's a newer model w/ a built in reflector
so many diff. ways to mount them, but I do like using an elastic to be sure they don't dis-mount, unintentionally
when I sell/buy bikes I just move the mount, or make a new mount
I like them because
they are durable,
use common 2 AAA batteries
I don't have to remember to charge them
it's easy enough to carry an extra 2 AAAs
when I was commuting, I used rechargeables & kept a charger at home & in the office, just in case
easy to mount
the choices out there are mind boggling, good luck w/ your choice!
so many diff. ways to mount them, but I do like using an elastic to be sure they don't dis-mount, unintentionally
when I sell/buy bikes I just move the mount, or make a new mount
I like them because
they are durable,
use common 2 AAA batteries
I don't have to remember to charge them
it's easy enough to carry an extra 2 AAAs
when I was commuting, I used rechargeables & kept a charger at home & in the office, just in case
easy to mount
the choices out there are mind boggling, good luck w/ your choice!
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05-30-23, 10:35 AM
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I've become a fan of the Cateye lights, partly because of their design experience, and partly because they try to standardize on the light mounts. They also sell the mounts separately, so I can buy a single light and install mounting brackets on all of my bikes. With the modern rubber straps, this is less of an issue.
Looking at their latest tail lights, it appears that they are only offering usb charging now.
Looking at their latest tail lights, it appears that they are only offering usb charging now.
The Reflexes are also approved reflectors, if one lives in a jurisdiction that requires both a lamp and a reflector.
05-30-23, 11:06 AM
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Back end of my light touring bike in the photo, on the left is the Superflash. On the right is the Superflash 65. Superflash has a tightly focused beam, the Superflash 65 has a wide and high beam, I only use the 65 on hilly or winding roads were traffic is much less likely to be directly behind me. I wrapped some rubber from an innertube around the rack to make it thicker where I mounted the seat stay light mounts so that they would fit better.
There is a plain reflector on the center of the rack. And the light on the fender is a dyno powered Pixeo with the optional wire guard.
I only use the rack in the photo for touring, and I did a two week bike tour last month, photo was taken before I removed the rack a week ago.
Right now, that bike has a light duty Nitto rack with a single Planet bike tailight on it, along with the fender mounted light.
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Personally, I like the idea of using a single AA versus two AAA's... but that's a minor issue.
As noted elsewhere, there's something to be said for a light that doesn't get tossed into the trash as soon as the lithium battery wears out!
I still have a Vistalite tail light on one bike, and that light must be close to 20 years old.
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05-30-23, 11:56 AM
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Back end of my light touring bike in the photo, on the left is the Superflash. On the right is the Superflash 65. Superflash has a tightly focused beam, the Superflash 65 has a wide and high beam, I only use the 65 on hilly or winding roads were traffic is much less likely to be directly behind me. I wrapped some rubber from an innertube around the rack to make it thicker where I mounted the seat stay light mounts so that they would fit better.
There is a plain reflector on the center of the rack. And the light on the fender is a dyno powered Pixeo with the optional wire guard.
I only use the rack in the photo for touring, and I did a two week bike tour last month, photo was taken before I removed the rack a week ago.
Right now, that bike has a light duty Nitto rack with a single Planet bike tailight on it, along with the fender mounted light.
There is a plain reflector on the center of the rack. And the light on the fender is a dyno powered Pixeo with the optional wire guard.
I only use the rack in the photo for touring, and I did a two week bike tour last month, photo was taken before I removed the rack a week ago.
Right now, that bike has a light duty Nitto rack with a single Planet bike tailight on it, along with the fender mounted light.
05-30-23, 12:06 PM
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I bought a Planet Bike something Rojo yesterday, in part because it included a seat stay mount. Alas, it's way too big for my vintage bike, and I imagine it's too big for some modern bikes, too. Ah, well ... better too big than too small. It's a PITA to find the right thickness for the spacer, but it's doable
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Planet Bike Superflash Turbo is the only tail light I've found to be suitable for long distance riding like randonneuring. I tape them shut and bring a set of spare batteries for long rides.
I've had 3-4 hotshots and they all fail with the same failure mode.
My Varia is my backup/redundant rear light (two mounted tail lights are required for randonneuring) but it has significant runtime limitations
I've had 3-4 hotshots and they all fail with the same failure mode.
My Varia is my backup/redundant rear light (two mounted tail lights are required for randonneuring) but it has significant runtime limitations
05-30-23, 02:32 PM
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Less redundant than it looks. When touring, my dynohub is charging batteries, the dyno powered light is off. And when touring, unless it is foggy or otherwise poor visibility, I only have one of the other lights on in flash mode, that is one less set of batteries that I have to charge from my dynohub later.
This is redundancy. I was walking down the street and saw this, had to take a photo, below.
This is redundancy. I was walking down the street and saw this, had to take a photo, below.
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Less redundant than it looks. When touring, my dynohub is charging batteries, the dyno powered light is off. And when touring, unless it is foggy or otherwise poor visibility, I only have one of the other lights on in flash mode, that is one less set of batteries that I have to charge from my dynohub later.
This is redundancy. I was walking down the street and saw this, had to take a photo, below.
This is redundancy. I was walking down the street and saw this, had to take a photo, below.
WOW!!!! Talk about redundancy. Never enough taillights for some. I might worry about attracting drivers toward it something like how moths are attracted to light. It always amazes me how bad drivers (mostly drunk) plow into police cruisers that are parked with their emergency beacons flashing.
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on my randonneuring bike, I have 2 mounts for battery taillights plus the dynohub powered light on the fender. I don't use both battery lights at once though. I usually have the battery lights on flashing
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Less redundant than it looks. When touring, my dynohub is charging batteries, the dyno powered light is off. And when touring, unless it is foggy or otherwise poor visibility, I only have one of the other lights on in flash mode, that is one less set of batteries that I have to charge from my dynohub later.
This is redundancy. I was walking down the street and saw this, had to take a photo, below.
This is redundancy. I was walking down the street and saw this, had to take a photo, below.
Current favourite is the Cygolite hotrod. Great for seat stay mounting. Nice selection of modes.
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But we are in a world of averages, and on average you are more likely to be seen in daytime with a flashing taillight on. Nothing will prevent it, but there are ways to minimize your risk.
I did my first trip with ACA in 2012, on day one I rode with a flashing taillight, none of the dozen other riders did. At the end of the week, apparently two others had noticed my taillight, they were using theirs too. Things have really changed, now I even see flashing taillights on gravel rail trails where there are no motor vehicles (other than the e-bikes that pretend to not be motor vehicles).
If I had not been run into on my motorcycle back in the 1980s, I am not sure if I would have been one of the first to be using a red flasher in daytime or not. That experience likely had a part in my decision to use one.
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I know for sure, that adding a strobe to my left drop, bar keeps ppl from moving right prematurely. after passing the rear light, it's another reminder that they still have further to go, before going back to center lane
& it gets me more courtesy room
having just a light on the back of the bike, is not as good
& it gets me more courtesy room
having just a light on the back of the bike, is not as good
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Decades ago I stopped at a stop light that had just turned red, was riding a motorcycle that I had commuted on for 12 years. The guy behind me was sure he could make it thru the light before it turned red if he floored it. Totaled the motorcycle and I had trouble walking for quite a while after that
during covid, a work colleague was rear ended on his motorcycle, at a red light & suffered many broken bones. thankfully he recovered & is working & riding a bicycle again (on paved trails). he's married now, bought a house & isn't going back to a motorcycle
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It's been a while since I've bought a new light, so I can only offer some observations on what I see around me.
My lights are a bit older and use batteries. I've used the Superflash and liked the electronics and optics, but had some issues with the mechanics of it. I'm currently using some Cateyes that use a single AA nimh battery, and have been quite happy with them.
Any of these battery lights have used a rather focused beam that is perhaps 5 degrees wide. I think they do this to optimize the visibility directly in line with the light while using little electrical power. This increases the run time, meaning you don't have to take it off the bike and open it up very often to charge the batteries. The downside is that these lights require careful alignment of the light to get that narrow beam of light aimed horizontally.
New bikes are less likely to use round bars and tubes, and the trend seems to use the rubber (or silicone) straps to mount the light to these oddly shaped surfaces. This means that the user isn't going to aim them carefully, so they have to have a much wider beam. This means that they use a lot more electrical power and need to be recharged more often. Fortunately, with the usb connectors and the rubber straps, it's not hard to pull the light off the bike and charge it up. It appears that the manufacturers have decided that if you have to charge it more often, they might as well have the lights be very bright, even if the run time is just a few hours. A bright light is usually safer, and is more impressive in the store.
For most folks, they are well served with a very bright light that can be recharged after each use. For those that need/want a light that can run for 20 or 30 hours, they will probably want a light powered by AA or AAA cells.
I've become a fan of the Cateye lights, partly because of their design experience, and partly because they try to standardize on the light mounts. They also sell the mounts separately, so I can buy a single light and install mounting brackets on all of my bikes. With the modern rubber straps, this is less of an issue.
Looking at their latest tail lights, it appears that they are only offering usb charging now. In my perfect world, they would use a AA Nimh battery inside, but I'm sure that they are using a lithium battery. I suspect that they would perform well anyway.
https://cateyeamerica.com/collection...-safety-lights
My lights are a bit older and use batteries. I've used the Superflash and liked the electronics and optics, but had some issues with the mechanics of it. I'm currently using some Cateyes that use a single AA nimh battery, and have been quite happy with them.
Any of these battery lights have used a rather focused beam that is perhaps 5 degrees wide. I think they do this to optimize the visibility directly in line with the light while using little electrical power. This increases the run time, meaning you don't have to take it off the bike and open it up very often to charge the batteries. The downside is that these lights require careful alignment of the light to get that narrow beam of light aimed horizontally.
New bikes are less likely to use round bars and tubes, and the trend seems to use the rubber (or silicone) straps to mount the light to these oddly shaped surfaces. This means that the user isn't going to aim them carefully, so they have to have a much wider beam. This means that they use a lot more electrical power and need to be recharged more often. Fortunately, with the usb connectors and the rubber straps, it's not hard to pull the light off the bike and charge it up. It appears that the manufacturers have decided that if you have to charge it more often, they might as well have the lights be very bright, even if the run time is just a few hours. A bright light is usually safer, and is more impressive in the store.
For most folks, they are well served with a very bright light that can be recharged after each use. For those that need/want a light that can run for 20 or 30 hours, they will probably want a light powered by AA or AAA cells.
I've become a fan of the Cateye lights, partly because of their design experience, and partly because they try to standardize on the light mounts. They also sell the mounts separately, so I can buy a single light and install mounting brackets on all of my bikes. With the modern rubber straps, this is less of an issue.
Looking at their latest tail lights, it appears that they are only offering usb charging now. In my perfect world, they would use a AA Nimh battery inside, but I'm sure that they are using a lithium battery. I suspect that they would perform well anyway.
https://cateyeamerica.com/collection...-safety-lights
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I've been using CatEye lights for a while. I'm actually looking at the Viz 450 taillight to replace my current Rapid X2. My only question is, will the SP-15 bracket, which comes with the Viz series, fit my Specialized Pave seatpost? CatEye describes the bracket as designed for "aero seatposts," but I can't tell whether it's wide enough for the Pave seatpost just by looking at it.
Mount size：φ21.5-32.0 mm. Fits up to 130 mm outer circumference (SP-15)
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In post 32 above, I had a photo of the rack I use for touring on my light touring bike, with lights mounted to it. I mentioned that I only use that rack for touring, for riding around near home use a lighter duty rack. That other rack is in the photo below, I hacksawed a piece of angle aluminum to make the light bracket for it.
The rack is a Nitto rack that I picked up at a swap meet.
I also added some red reflective tape to my seatstays.
The rack is a Nitto rack that I picked up at a swap meet.
I also added some red reflective tape to my seatstays.
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In post 32 above, I had a photo of the rack I use for touring on my light touring bike, with lights mounted to it. I mentioned that I only use that rack for touring, for riding around near home use a lighter duty rack. That other rack is in the photo below, I hacksawed a piece of angle aluminum to make the light bracket for it.
The rack is a Nitto rack that I picked up at a swap meet.
I also added some red reflective tape to my seatstays.
The rack is a Nitto rack that I picked up at a swap meet.
I also added some red reflective tape to my seatstays.