Anyone recognize these lugs?
03-22-23, 06:11 PM
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Anyone recognize these lugs?
Guy near me is selling a singlespeed built on some sort of lugged frame with chromed lugs and socks. Without a serial (I've asked him to look), anyone have any guess at what this was?
If it rides OK I may buy it as a beater because I'm looking for a roadie-geometry singlespeed (poor man's Quickbeam), but it would be interesting to learn if there's something cool in there. I'm going under the assumption it's some low-end Volscycle or other chromed up bike boom bike, but ya never know...
If it rides OK I may buy it as a beater because I'm looking for a roadie-geometry singlespeed (poor man's Quickbeam), but it would be interesting to learn if there's something cool in there. I'm going under the assumption it's some low-end Volscycle or other chromed up bike boom bike, but ya never know...
03-22-23, 08:42 PM
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Generic Italian lugs that any builder could buy and use. Agrati maybe? Anyway the list of brands it could be would be too long to type. Seatstay tops look like Bianchi, but other brands did that too.
Seatpost size is a clue to how thick the tubing is. If it's 27.2 mm then you have a thorobred, but it's probably thicker heavier tubing, which results in a smaller seatpost bore. Those cheap stamped dropouts usually didn't go with thin light tubing.
That generic replacement fork is a shame, and sometimes it means the original was bent in a crash. Which could mean the frame is bent too. Not always of course; there are other reasons why a fork might get replaced.
Seatpost size is a clue to how thick the tubing is. If it's 27.2 mm then you have a thorobred, but it's probably thicker heavier tubing, which results in a smaller seatpost bore. Those cheap stamped dropouts usually didn't go with thin light tubing.
That generic replacement fork is a shame, and sometimes it means the original was bent in a crash. Which could mean the frame is bent too. Not always of course; there are other reasons why a fork might get replaced.
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03-23-23, 08:38 AM
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03-23-23, 09:20 AM
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Wow. Looks like you folks are on it--and like I'm not the only person who thought about stripping down that frame!
Thanks!
Thanks!
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Wouldn't it have the "windowed" lugs?
As juvela pointed out in the Schwinn thread, it can be some Garlatti (of course others as well) ,in fact up to the seat lug, RD cable stop and the possibly non-orig fork it is really similar to the Cinelli Riviera (a.k.a. Mod C. in some places) although that alone doesn't prove it comes from Garlatti, since others have used the same lugs. Some Garlatti branded bikes from the same type is closer with the RD cable stop and seat stay cap, but still those had separate collar to hold the seat post as far as I know, like this one:
Whoever made the bike, I dig this style thats for sure.
As juvela pointed out in the Schwinn thread, it can be some Garlatti (of course others as well) ,in fact up to the seat lug, RD cable stop and the possibly non-orig fork it is really similar to the Cinelli Riviera (a.k.a. Mod C. in some places) although that alone doesn't prove it comes from Garlatti, since others have used the same lugs. Some Garlatti branded bikes from the same type is closer with the RD cable stop and seat stay cap, but still those had separate collar to hold the seat post as far as I know, like this one:
Whoever made the bike, I dig this style thats for sure.
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03-23-23, 11:43 AM
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initIal inquiry regarded lug identification
here is a photo of the Agrati "ROMA" pattern lug ensemble loose
the seat lug in this image illustrates the Malaguti style with seat stay plugs
the seat lug on the subject machine shows binder ears
Agrati offered their seat lugs in three configurations
customers could choose a plain seat lug without binder ears or Malaguti plugs
or they could select a seat lug with binder ears
alternately, they could opt for the Malaguti style shown in the photo
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initIal inquiry regarded lug identification
here is a photo of the Agrati "ROMA" pattern lug ensemble loose
the seat lug in this image illustrates the Malaguti style with seat stay plugs
the seat lug on the subject machine shows binder ears
Agrati offered their seat lugs in three configurations
customers could choose a plain seat lug without binder ears or Malaguti plugs
or they could select a seat lug with binder ears
alternately, they could opt for the Malaguti style shown in the photo
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