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Perhaps you are seeing "trolling" where none exists. I have read some of his threads in the normal course of browsing, the ones that interest me. I see nothing suspicious. Please explain why this, or any of the other OP's posts, are trolling. Just calling someone a name is pretty weak. Can you not actually defend your position?
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You don’t think saying most of us must be “kittens” who ride on MUPs is suspicious? And that’s just the tip of the ice berg.
Go do what you admitted you haven’t done. If you do, you’ll see that I am far from being the only one. Or maybe you’re playing both roles in good sock, bar sock.
Go do what you admitted you haven’t done. If you do, you’ll see that I am far from being the only one. Or maybe you’re playing both roles in good sock, bar sock.
Naturally you could just ignore him, yet here you are. It seems personal. Definitely not trolling though.
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did a relatively flat (for western PA) metric century one time that was brutal - hot humid sunny day and a pace above my comfort level ... I was toast
at the time - I could not stand flat rides - but now for the most part that is what I do ...
I do have lower gearing now for the occasional climbing: 34/30 ... 31/34 on another bike ... and a bike with a 22/32 on a triple for those nasty short climbs
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ditto
did a relatively flat (for western PA) metric century one time that was brutal - hot humid sunny day and a pace above my comfort level ... I was toast
at the time - I could not stand flat rides - but now for the most part that is what I do ...
I do have lower gearing now for the occasional climbing: 34/30 ... 31/34 on another bike ... and a bike with a 22/32 on a triple for those nasty short climbs
did a relatively flat (for western PA) metric century one time that was brutal - hot humid sunny day and a pace above my comfort level ... I was toast
at the time - I could not stand flat rides - but now for the most part that is what I do ...
I do have lower gearing now for the occasional climbing: 34/30 ... 31/34 on another bike ... and a bike with a 22/32 on a triple for those nasty short climbs
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Originally Posted by grantelmwood
An 8 mile ride with 15% hills is harder than a 100 mile ride on a cute little bike path for kids and grannies
He may be right. It depends on how much of that 8 miles is at a 15% gradient. That's steeper than most of the "hellish" climbs in the TDF. 8 miles if it's all 15% would be almost superhuman. I know I couldn't do it (and you probably couldn't either), but we can probably both ride 100 miles on a cute little bike path made for kids and grannies.
An 8 mile ride with 15% hills is harder than a 100 mile ride on a cute little bike path for kids and grannies
He may be right. It depends on how much of that 8 miles is at a 15% gradient. That's steeper than most of the "hellish" climbs in the TDF. 8 miles if it's all 15% would be almost superhuman. I know I couldn't do it (and you probably couldn't either), but we can probably both ride 100 miles on a cute little bike path made for kids and grannies.
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Some of you guys are an absolute riot. You're so worried about who's a sock or who's a troll it's comedic. Just because someone doesn't follow what you consider "proper" cycling behaviors drives you guys into a tizzy. You refuse to acknowledge the principle of "Different strokes for different folks", or rather, you might recognize it but you're going to do everything you can to drive him off these forums.
Kittens? Really? You're going to try to make a federal case out of a guy referring vaguely and indirectly to "kittens" when you don't hesitate to call people trolls . . . directly and to their face? Really? Some of you guys have lost it. Somewhere along the line there must have been a request for volunteer gatekeepers because that's exactly how you guys act . . . . everybody is a troll or a sock unless they march in lock step with you guys, the usual characters. The gatekeepers. Somehow I missed that memo.
Kittens . . . I can't get over that. We got a good laugh out of that one.
Kittens? Really? You're going to try to make a federal case out of a guy referring vaguely and indirectly to "kittens" when you don't hesitate to call people trolls . . . directly and to their face? Really? Some of you guys have lost it. Somewhere along the line there must have been a request for volunteer gatekeepers because that's exactly how you guys act . . . . everybody is a troll or a sock unless they march in lock step with you guys, the usual characters. The gatekeepers. Somehow I missed that memo.
Kittens . . . I can't get over that. We got a good laugh out of that one.
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Originally Posted by grantelmwood
An 8 mile ride with 15% hills is harder than a 100 mile ride on a cute little bike path for kids and grannies
He may be right. It depends on how much of that 8 miles is at a 15% gradient. That's steeper than most of the "hellish" climbs in the TDF. 8 miles if it's all 15% would be almost superhuman. I know I couldn't do it (and you probably couldn't either), but we can probably both ride 100 miles on a cute little bike path made for kids and grannies.
An 8 mile ride with 15% hills is harder than a 100 mile ride on a cute little bike path for kids and grannies
He may be right. It depends on how much of that 8 miles is at a 15% gradient. That's steeper than most of the "hellish" climbs in the TDF. 8 miles if it's all 15% would be almost superhuman. I know I couldn't do it (and you probably couldn't either), but we can probably both ride 100 miles on a cute little bike path made for kids and grannies.
He definitely did not mean that the entire 8 miles was 15% grade as he only claimed 800 feet of climbing over the entire 8 miles. 15% of 8 miles is 6336 feet of climb. 800 feet in 8 miles is just under 2% grade average. The mere presence of a few feet of 15% grade (that he walked, BTW) in 8 miles is not enough to magically make the ride "harder" than a ride 12.5 times longer in distance. And if you can't recognize the "kids and grannies" bit as trolling, like I said, your calibration is busted.
Honestly, I think the OP is probably lying about the 15% anyway, but in any event, he's remarkably nonspecific about how much of it there is.
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He may be right. It depends on how much of that 8 miles is at a 15% gradient. That's steeper than most of the "hellish" climbs in the TDF. 8 miles if it's all 15% would be almost superhuman. I know I couldn't do it (and you probably couldn't either), but we can probably both ride 100 miles on a cute little bike path made for kids and grannies.
What makes climbs "hellish" in the Tour is mostly the ridiculous pace they ride.
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Neither, but if you can't recognize it as an attempt to piss people off (i.e., trolling), you're tone deaf. My panties remained unbunched, TYVM. I didn't say he was a good troll.
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Some of you guys are an absolute riot. You're so worried about who's a sock or who's a troll it's comedic. Just because someone doesn't follow what you consider "proper" cycling behaviors drives you guys into a tizzy. You refuse to acknowledge the principle of "Different strokes for different folks", or rather, you might recognize it but you're going to do everything you can to drive him off these forums.
Kittens? Really? You're going to try to make a federal case out of a guy referring vaguely and indirectly to "kittens" when you don't hesitate to call people trolls . . . directly and to their face? Really? Some of you guys have lost it. Somewhere along the line there must have been a request for volunteer gatekeepers because that's exactly how you guys act . . . . everybody is a troll or a sock unless they march in lock step with you guys, the usual characters. The gatekeepers. Somehow I missed that memo.
Kittens . . . I can't get over that. We got a good laugh out of that one.
Kittens? Really? You're going to try to make a federal case out of a guy referring vaguely and indirectly to "kittens" when you don't hesitate to call people trolls . . . directly and to their face? Really? Some of you guys have lost it. Somewhere along the line there must have been a request for volunteer gatekeepers because that's exactly how you guys act . . . . everybody is a troll or a sock unless they march in lock step with you guys, the usual characters. The gatekeepers. Somehow I missed that memo.
Kittens . . . I can't get over that. We got a good laugh out of that one.
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Easy as pie to map it out and post a link, although that can be faked. Easier still to tell people where it was and let them investigate for themselves is they choose.
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The math says that not much was 15% in his 8 mile ride...and he walked. If he's a real person, and actually rides bikes, he's new to riding, and that's okay. We all had to start somewhere, and sometimes that includes making ignorant assumptions about things we have never experienced.
What makes climbs "hellish" in the Tour is mostly the ridiculous pace they ride.
What makes climbs "hellish" in the Tour is mostly the ridiculous pace they ride.
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a) full of crap keyboard warrior trolls
b) pro cyclists
c) have never ridden hills.
I then realized (c) may be a real demographic, so I asserted the arbitrary 100 mile flat comparison
to make a point to the muppies and kittens
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2 miles of 15% is about 1600 feet, not the 800 over 8 miles you initially described. Also, you didn't say "8 miles at 15%", you said, "An 8 mile ride with 15% hills".
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Folks that claim a 2 mile hill at 15% is "nothing" are either
a) full of crap keyboard warrior trolls
b) pro cyclists
c) have never ridden hills.
I then realized (c) may be a real demographic, so I asserted the arbitrary 100 mile flat comparison
to make a point to the muppies and kittens
a) full of crap keyboard warrior trolls
b) pro cyclists
c) have never ridden hills.
I then realized (c) may be a real demographic, so I asserted the arbitrary 100 mile flat comparison
to make a point to the muppies and kittens
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Folks that claim a 2 mile hill at 15% is "nothing" are either
a) full of crap keyboard warrior trolls
b) pro cyclists
c) have never ridden hills.
I then realized (c) may be a real demographic, so I asserted the arbitrary 100 mile flat comparison
to make a point to the muppies and kittens
a) full of crap keyboard warrior trolls
b) pro cyclists
c) have never ridden hills.
I then realized (c) may be a real demographic, so I asserted the arbitrary 100 mile flat comparison
to make a point to the muppies and kittens
Your lack of knowledge about riders and riding is glaringly obvious.
EDIT: I don't recall anyone saying a 15% climb was "nothing", but 20 minutes of climbing is not more difficult (a bigger effort) than 5+ hours of flat riding. I have experience with both.
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