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So maybe you guys need to keep the roughhousing to yourselves and treat our new guys with considerably more respect. That shouldn’t be difficult, you can view how many posts a user has right with his userID. It shouldn’t be difficult to be respectful to ANYONE, but it’s particularly harmful to be rude, nasty, or disrespectful to our newbies. I must admit, this is a particularly pet peeve of BillyD. I sort of see it as bullying, and I hate bullying. Everybody has baggage, that’s just mine. So please be nice to our newbies, they didn’t come here to get insulted or otherwise mistreated. You all had dumb questions when you were new in this game, be patient and let them fire theirs off. If you don’t like a “dumb question”, move on to a different thread. If you see a thread topic that is well worn, like "I'm hunting for a new bike, what frame material is best?" or "what chain lube should I use?", or "do red socks make me faster?", JUST MOVE ON, find another thread more to your liking. Don’t be a locker room bully, don’t be a dick. Be especially nice to our newbies. I’m afraid we must insist.
So maybe you guys need to keep the roughhousing to yourselves and treat our new guys with considerably more respect. That shouldn’t be difficult, you can view how many posts a user has right with his userID. It shouldn’t be difficult to be respectful to ANYONE, but it’s particularly harmful to be rude, nasty, or disrespectful to our newbies. I must admit, this is a particularly pet peeve of BillyD. I sort of see it as bullying, and I hate bullying. Everybody has baggage, that’s just mine. So please be nice to our newbies, they didn’t come here to get insulted or otherwise mistreated. You all had dumb questions when you were new in this game, be patient and let them fire theirs off. If you don’t like a “dumb question”, move on to a different thread. If you see a thread topic that is well worn, like "I'm hunting for a new bike, what frame material is best?" or "what chain lube should I use?", or "do red socks make me faster?", JUST MOVE ON, find another thread more to your liking. Don’t be a locker room bully, don’t be a dick. Be especially nice to our newbies. I’m afraid we must insist.
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11-10-22, 10:53 AM
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...did you use your time to travel, or was it a stay at home ? I like to use vacations now for self improvement, like learning a new language, or picking up a new musical instrument. The kazoo is a pretty quick study, and if you are tone deaf, there are always the rhythm instruments.
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11-10-22, 10:57 AM
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... sydney was great. I guess he went off in search of a kinder, gentler forum.
11-10-22, 11:14 AM
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Banning one of the most helpful and competent professional mechanics from the bike mechanics sub-forum is shooting themselves in both feet.
If you give them $12 a year, that is viewed as a contribution.
If you give them (and their paying 'customers' as well as us dirt-bags) many hours of your time and professional experience, including unvarnished truths not diluted with fake diplomacy, somehow that is regarded as problematic.
#Priorities
If you give them $12 a year, that is viewed as a contribution.
If you give them (and their paying 'customers' as well as us dirt-bags) many hours of your time and professional experience, including unvarnished truths not diluted with fake diplomacy, somehow that is regarded as problematic.
#Priorities
Let's try to remember how the movie ended.
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11-10-22, 11:25 AM
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Maybe he went away like Levon.
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11-10-22, 12:03 PM
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I cannot speak for anyone else, but from my point of view (having occasionally been on the receiving end, which I do not enjoy), I think his presence in the mechanics sub-forum is (and could continue to be) much more of an asset than it is a liability.
Why not take a completely different approach to the problem?
Invite him to moderate the Bicycle Mechanics sub-forum, allow him to move appropriate posts into the forum, and to set the (pre-determined) tone of the discussion. The advice and experience he has to offer can and should be a major asset to BikeForums.
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11-10-22, 12:59 PM
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Appearances can be deceiving.
I cannot speak for anyone else, but from my point of view (having occasionally been on the receiving end, which I do not enjoy), I think his presence in the mechanics sub-forum is (and could continue to be) much more of an asset than it is a liability.
Why not take a completely different approach to the problem?
Invite him to moderate the Bicycle Mechanics sub-forum, allow him to move appropriate posts into the forum, and to set the (pre-determined) tone of the discussion. The advice and experience he has to offer can and should be a major asset to BikeForums.
I cannot speak for anyone else, but from my point of view (having occasionally been on the receiving end, which I do not enjoy), I think his presence in the mechanics sub-forum is (and could continue to be) much more of an asset than it is a liability.
Why not take a completely different approach to the problem?
Invite him to moderate the Bicycle Mechanics sub-forum, allow him to move appropriate posts into the forum, and to set the (pre-determined) tone of the discussion. The advice and experience he has to offer can and should be a major asset to BikeForums.
11-10-22, 01:44 PM
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I suppose you'd also like to have the inmates run the asylum?
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This reminds me of an Upward youth basketball league I coached in. One of the requirements to coach in that league is the coaches had to officiate 1 of the 6-8 year old games. It gave them a totally different perspective than sitting on the sidelines. 
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There is a silver lining to this thread. At least you'll know who doesn't have you on their ignore list.
You're into double figures, so it can't be all bad.
Then again, out of a member list 412,449...
John
You're into double figures, so it can't be all bad.
Then again, out of a member list 412,449...
John
11-10-22, 02:29 PM
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Actually, dual control lever is the term Shimano uses. While STI is a Shimano dual control lever, I'm not certain that every dual control lever meets Shimano's definition of a STI. I suppose I could look that up, but certainly someone else will want that acclaim.
https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/components/road.html
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You may have missed the call girls. Lots and lots of call girls. 
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I think you are struggling here with the comedy! Don't use this one if you are up on stage. <grin>
Actually, dual control lever is the term Shimano uses. While STI is a Shimano dual control lever, I'm not certain that every dual control lever meets Shimano's definition of a STI. I suppose I could look that up, but certainly someone else will want that acclaim.
https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/components/road.html
Actually, dual control lever is the term Shimano uses. While STI is a Shimano dual control lever, I'm not certain that every dual control lever meets Shimano's definition of a STI. I suppose I could look that up, but certainly someone else will want that acclaim.
https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/components/road.html
I'm certainly not a fan of this term as it says nothing as to what the lever is actually controlling. As my lame joke implies, controlling "duals" isn't a thing.
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Appearances can be deceiving.
I cannot speak for anyone else, but from my point of view (having occasionally been on the receiving end, which I do not enjoy), I think his presence in the mechanics sub-forum is (and could continue to be) much more of an asset than it is a liability.
Why not take a completely different approach to the problem?
Invite him to moderate the Bicycle Mechanics sub-forum, allow him to move appropriate posts into the forum, and to set the (pre-determined) tone of the discussion. The advice and experience he has to offer can and should be a major asset to BikeForums.
I cannot speak for anyone else, but from my point of view (having occasionally been on the receiving end, which I do not enjoy), I think his presence in the mechanics sub-forum is (and could continue to be) much more of an asset than it is a liability.
Why not take a completely different approach to the problem?
Invite him to moderate the Bicycle Mechanics sub-forum, allow him to move appropriate posts into the forum, and to set the (pre-determined) tone of the discussion. The advice and experience he has to offer can and should be a major asset to BikeForums.
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BillyD, thank you.