Anybody else read the two NY times articles on e-bikes today ?
08-02-23, 12:24 PM
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It's not the fact which is disputed but the statistical relevance to overall safety, exponentially moreso in the e-bike case so long as one persists in looking only at the speed of the car and not also the speed of the e-bike.
You persist in forgetting that crashes with high speed motor vehicle movement are only a small minority of overall injurious crashes.
Yes, if you ignore life altering injuries, and look only at actual deaths, then you see high closing speed showing up in a slight minority of deaths.
You persist in forgetting that crashes with high speed motor vehicle movement are only a small minority of overall injurious crashes.
Yes, if you ignore life altering injuries, and look only at actual deaths, then you see high closing speed showing up in a slight minority of deaths.
High speed closing impacts may be a smaller percentage of total mishaps but of course that ignores the percentage of cyclists exposed to high speed impact. IOW what percentage of cyclists ride in traffic lanes on high speed roads and expose themselves to the possibility of a high speed closing collision? Also such a simple response ignores the likely severity of the injuries suffered in high closing speed mishaps vice the likely severity of injuries suffered in sidewalk, bike lane recreational trail mishaps. Such is the fallacy of conclusions based on just counting the total number of "crashes" with no consideration of severity or percentage of cycling exposure to the various "crash" hazards.
08-02-23, 12:26 PM
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How about instead of constantly attacking others you simply explain to us:
How would you route light electric devices in various speed classes relative to other traffic?
At 20 mph, 28 mph (class III) and more moped like things at 35 mph?
3alarmer?
I-Like-To-Bike?
How would you fit these into society? Would you draw distinctions? Outlaw some and load requirement on others?
Tell, us, please.
How would you route light electric devices in various speed classes relative to other traffic?
At 20 mph, 28 mph (class III) and more moped like things at 35 mph?
3alarmer?
I-Like-To-Bike?
How would you fit these into society? Would you draw distinctions? Outlaw some and load requirement on others?
Tell, us, please.
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08-02-23, 01:30 PM
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08-02-23, 02:29 PM
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Let's leave it closed.
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