kani

Hi, I have this frame with Bianchi decals that I am struggling to identify. I have looked through all Bianchi catalogs from the 80s and 90s that I could find, but I have not yet found an exact match. The only models I have found that have internal brake cable routing that both enters and exists at the top of the top tube are high end models with Bianchi engravings, but this frame has none. When I got it it had a groupset consisting of Shimano RX100 and Exage. Stem was 3TTT Record and handlebar was 3TTT Competition. Seatpost was Selcof. Could very well be something else than a Bianchi. I don’t mind, I just want to know what it is😅 Any help would be appreciated🙏

juvela

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dropout adjusters indicate a respray

would expect a Bianchi of this era to exhibit a Bianchi symbol somewhere such as fork crown

head transfer an odd one, wonder if a made up design

one clue might be pattern of relieving the shell


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Bianchigirll 

juvela I agree.

I'm leaning towards not being a BIanchi, but lets investigate a bit more. Can you actually read anything on the dropouts? Bottom bracket threading? What country are you and the bike in, and are you looking at the correct catalogs?

IN the US market internal cable routing didn't show up until the early '90s, and mostly on higher models as you mention, but most of those had vertical dropouts, unicrown forks, and chrome.

Welcome to the "looks like anice frame, but I have no idea" club!

juvela

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wondering if it could be a Technotrat product...

...wylde speculation...



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kani

There is no text on the dropouts whatsoever. Haven’t looked closely at the bottom bracket threading yet (I placed the bike a bit inconveniently behind some other bikes🙈 but I’ll have a look next time I have the bike available). I bought the bike from Italy (admittedly because I needed the stem and handlebar for another project&#128517. I’m not sure what market the catalogs I have been looking at are, though (or which markets exist for that matter&#128517.

I also kind of struggle to understand why anyone would make a fake non-celeste Bianchi. I initially assumed someone happened to have a blue frame with no decals on it and then applied Bianchi-decals to make it easier to sell, but when I feel the decals with my hand I cannot feel the edge of any decals, so if it’s fake someone must at least have made the effort to clear coat it, and made a good enough effort to not get any paint run or orange peel🤔

juvela

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our @MauriceMoss may be able to shed some of his considerable illumination here...

please add images of shell when convenient; that should be of help to the frame experts...



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kani

While there aren’t a lot of images of Tecnotrat frames on the internet, what I can find looks promising. Most of the examples that I can find seem to tick all the boxes except for the cable routing. However, I found a catalog image on Pinterest of some Tecnotrat frames which appear to have internal cable routing. The red one in particular could potentially tick all the boxes:

juvela

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most of the examples which have come up here on the forum have been otherwise badged; renders searching more difficult...

recall there were some badged as Detto Pietro



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jdawginsc 

Weird. Lug cutouts definitely not Bianchi-styled. Usually a B and Bianchi on the stay caps. Also cable routing through the top. Very nice frame, but not seemingly a Bianchi I’d think?

I am certainly not expert by any stretch...unless a foreign build for a different market?