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Bikes: 2015 Felt z85 Aluminum frame carbon fork full 11 speed 105 + 2015 Carbon Fuji sst 2.0 full Ultegra, Reynolds assault Ltd wheels and 3t AeroNova Bars
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Since this photo bike has got a new AeroNova Team Stealth bar, and a Ultegra crankset. I’ll post updated photos when weather clears (Bay Area, Ca)
#80
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Rainy weather/my first bike
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Thanks.
This is probably the hottest bike on the thread so far, and a Giant too. Who knew?
Well done.
-Tim-
#83
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My first Aero'ish bike build. Maybe, possibly, DB's last race bike?
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#87
Can you tell us a bit about the frameset? I am unfamiliar with that name.
What kind of bottom bracket?
A beauty. Any riding characteristics downside to the aero improvement? Is the bike notably faster at higher speed compared to your other more conventional tube bikes?
#89
As a public service and as the Voice of the Industry
, please check out the video below of what bars the pros use. This has revelevance to bar width...I have switched to all narrower bars on my road bikes and vastly enjoy them more and a 40cm bar versus 44cm...I am just over 6' tall...feels so much better and more aero...but reason for posting the following video is because of all the bike handlebar setups I see with the hooks pointing down at the ground. You guys do that because you want to raise the hoods and tip them back a bit.
A suggestion and only that is...don't fall into that trap. Instead, set up your bars like the pros. They know what they are doing and the amateur less so. As a 'priority' first set your hooks level to the ground. This is 'so much' more supportive for low grip pressure in the drops and while sprinting.
Then, push your shifters up or down on the top of the bar to suit your wrist position. I would say a universal trap is to push your shifters back. I would say although not as critical as hook position, again look at the pro position. Hoods are typically more forward. If you don't have the flexibility, then use a shorter stem to place the bar more below you. Pushing the levers back aside from wrist position is compensation for lack of flexibility or running too long a stem.
Just wanted to share and point out we can all take a page out of how the pros ride and why they do what they do. Handlebars and shifters are designed by manufacturers with a given design intent. Rotating bars and positioning shifters back isn't ergonomically what the designers had in mind.
Two bikes above display the rotated handlebar syndrome which btw is more common than not in amateur ranks but 'rarely' seen in pro ranks. This is because rotating the handlebar back raises it with a given stem rise. A bandaid. Robbing peter to pay paul. Peter is the critical hook position. Better riders want to use the drops. The drops are the most comfortable and secure hand position on the bike 'provided the hook profile is correct'. Among pros, hooks are level to the ground which feels so much more supportive and hoods aren't pushed back because reach isn't a problem.
You will see it here and it makes a notable difference while out riding.
![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
A suggestion and only that is...don't fall into that trap. Instead, set up your bars like the pros. They know what they are doing and the amateur less so. As a 'priority' first set your hooks level to the ground. This is 'so much' more supportive for low grip pressure in the drops and while sprinting.
Then, push your shifters up or down on the top of the bar to suit your wrist position. I would say a universal trap is to push your shifters back. I would say although not as critical as hook position, again look at the pro position. Hoods are typically more forward. If you don't have the flexibility, then use a shorter stem to place the bar more below you. Pushing the levers back aside from wrist position is compensation for lack of flexibility or running too long a stem.
Just wanted to share and point out we can all take a page out of how the pros ride and why they do what they do. Handlebars and shifters are designed by manufacturers with a given design intent. Rotating bars and positioning shifters back isn't ergonomically what the designers had in mind.
Two bikes above display the rotated handlebar syndrome which btw is more common than not in amateur ranks but 'rarely' seen in pro ranks. This is because rotating the handlebar back raises it with a given stem rise. A bandaid. Robbing peter to pay paul. Peter is the critical hook position. Better riders want to use the drops. The drops are the most comfortable and secure hand position on the bike 'provided the hook profile is correct'. Among pros, hooks are level to the ground which feels so much more supportive and hoods aren't pushed back because reach isn't a problem.
You will see it here and it makes a notable difference while out riding.
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Only have one so far of this years team crit bike.
Bianchi Sempre Pro frame
Shimano Dura Ace DI2
Tacx bottle cages
Dura Ace pedals
Rotor 3D+ 170mm cranks
Power2Max NG Echo Power Meter
HED 120mm -10degree stem
Zipp SL88 Traditional Bend Bars 40CM
Ritchey Comp seat post with 20 degree offset
Pro Stealth Carbon railed saddle
Hed Stinger 6 Tubular wheels
Michelin Pro 4 25mm tires (will be changing to Vittori Corsa come season)
-(Training wheels are HED Jet 6plus with Coras G+ 25mm tires)
I know some won't like the wheels stickers but they are a sponsor and we like to rep a local brand proudly.
Bianchi Sempre Pro frame
Shimano Dura Ace DI2
Tacx bottle cages
Dura Ace pedals
Rotor 3D+ 170mm cranks
Power2Max NG Echo Power Meter
HED 120mm -10degree stem
Zipp SL88 Traditional Bend Bars 40CM
Ritchey Comp seat post with 20 degree offset
Pro Stealth Carbon railed saddle
Hed Stinger 6 Tubular wheels
Michelin Pro 4 25mm tires (will be changing to Vittori Corsa come season)
-(Training wheels are HED Jet 6plus with Coras G+ 25mm tires)
I know some won't like the wheels stickers but they are a sponsor and we like to rep a local brand proudly.
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#91
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That's one of the hottest bikes on the planet. My Litespeed titanium bike with its red and blue accents is sitting right across the room from me as I type. I am going to type this quietly. I'd dump her in a heartbeat for your Speedvagen.
#92
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Thanks mods for giving us this playground again. I love looking at what other folks ride. Thanks to everyone who dares to put their prized possession on display for comment. I would participate, but my garage door is faded brown.
#93
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Esthetic,
Can you tell us a bit about the frameset? I am unfamiliar with that name.
What kind of bottom bracket?
A beauty. Any riding characteristics downside to the aero improvement? Is the bike notably faster at higher speed compared to your other more conventional tube bikes?
Can you tell us a bit about the frameset? I am unfamiliar with that name.
What kind of bottom bracket?
A beauty. Any riding characteristics downside to the aero improvement? Is the bike notably faster at higher speed compared to your other more conventional tube bikes?
![Smilie](images/smilies/smile.gif)
Its a PF30, though i'm running GXP as the frameset as i purchased it was using Shimano and had a pretty nice Praxis bottom bracket in it already.
This was their flagship frame, the Podium Equipe . Unlike most manufacturers Diamondback doesn't offer 'tiers' of carbon, every group level gets same frame, same carbon layout. This particular frame is in the mid 900g range (i'd wager more due to its candy shell paint job), but a good blend of weight and strength.
DB has had pretty radical Aerodynamic developments (Serios TT, Andean Tri bikes) for a company out of the niche fray . That said this reincarnation of the Podium got trickle down Aerodynamic touches and wind tunnel development from its Serios Time Trial bike as a base point, several design cues are evident. Particularly the chunky downtube flow out to the rounded stays, i find that the most unique aspect of the overall look to the bike
![Smilie](images/smilies/smile.gif)
This being a 2017, it was last the year they offered rim brakes. For 2018 it was disc-only, The Podium Vitesse. From the looks of it, that marks this mode's run. Nothing for 2019, unless another incarnation is in the works.
The Podium does have some race/sprinting pedigree coming off this 2015 redesign. 2017 was a break-out year for both the men’s and women’s Rally Cycling squads: Together they won nine national championships in the US and Canada and took the overall win at five top stage races in North America. The most notable was was the Tour of California, Evan Huffman and Rob Brittons 5 man breakaway sprints in Stage 4, taking first and second , with the Tour favorite Peter Sagan coming in 6th.
The bike certainly loves to sprint, and seems to holds its speed better on the flats than my TeamMachine, albeit not finding it as lively a climber.
But honestly i have not ridden that many miles using these wheels yet to get a great feel of the whole package in desirable conditions , as i had a tire clearance issue while they were setup tubeless , so the majority of the time in the saddle i was using box rims as winter salt had already hit the roads. At this point of the year in the east coast its the low point of my fitness, really looking forward to warmer days with less headwind to grow with it more and hammer some miles on it. Also may dial front end in more, may be sliding the bars down one spacer down the steerer.
Main warning i have on the frame is the rear clearance is spotty for 25c tires. Tires like Schwalbe Pro One 25c/ Specialized 26c rubbed, while i had better luck with Giant and Hutchinson tires which have a shorter sidewall and dont plump up as tall on a 17c-20c internal rim.
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#94
Senior Member
Only have one so far of this years team crit bike.
Bianchi Sempre Pro frame
Shimano Dura Ace DI2
Tacx bottle cages
Dura Ace pedals
Rotor 3D+ 170mm cranks
Power2Max NG Echo Power Meter
HED 120mm -10degree stem
Zipp SL88 Traditional Bend Bars 40CM
Ritchey Comp seat post with 20 degree offset
Pro Stealth Carbon railed saddle
Hed Stinger 6 Tubular wheels
Michelin Pro 4 25mm tires (will be changing to Vittori Corsa come season)
-(Training wheels are HED Jet 6plus with Coras G+ 25mm tires)
I know some won't like the wheels stickers but they are a sponsor and we like to rep a local brand proudly.
![](https://i.imgur.com/m0UaRbi.jpg)
Bianchi Sempre Pro frame
Shimano Dura Ace DI2
Tacx bottle cages
Dura Ace pedals
Rotor 3D+ 170mm cranks
Power2Max NG Echo Power Meter
HED 120mm -10degree stem
Zipp SL88 Traditional Bend Bars 40CM
Ritchey Comp seat post with 20 degree offset
Pro Stealth Carbon railed saddle
Hed Stinger 6 Tubular wheels
Michelin Pro 4 25mm tires (will be changing to Vittori Corsa come season)
-(Training wheels are HED Jet 6plus with Coras G+ 25mm tires)
I know some won't like the wheels stickers but they are a sponsor and we like to rep a local brand proudly.
![](https://i.imgur.com/m0UaRbi.jpg)
#95
Thank you, i think so. I sure can, long in the tooth too, as i did a fair amount of digging up on it ![Smilie](images/smilies/smile.gif)
Its a PF30, though i'm running GXP as the frameset as i purchased it was using Shimano and had a pretty nice Praxis bottom bracket in it already.
This was their flagship frame, the Podium Equipe . Unlike most manufacturers Diamondback doesn't offer 'tiers' of carbon, every group level gets same frame, same carbon layout. This particular frame is in the mid 900g range (i'd wager more due to its candy shell paint job), but a good blend of weight and strength.
DB has had pretty radical Aerodynamic developments (Serios TT, Andean Tri bikes) for a company out of the niche fray . That said this reincarnation of the Podium got trickle down Aerodynamic touches and wind tunnel development from its Serios Time Trial bike as a base point, several design cues are evident. Particularly the chunky downtube flow out to the rounded stays, i find that the most unique aspect of the overall look to the bike![Smilie](images/smilies/smile.gif)
This being a 2017, it was last the year they offered rim brakes. For 2018 it was disc-only, The Podium Vitesse. From the looks of it, that marks this mode's run. Nothing for 2019, unless another incarnation is in the works.
The Podium does have some race/sprinting pedigree coming off this 2015 redesign. 2017 was a break-out year for both the men’s and women’s Rally Cycling squads: Together they won nine national championships in the US and Canada and took the overall win at five top stage races in North America. The most notable was was the Tour of California, Evan Huffman and Rob Brittons 5 man breakaway sprints in Stage 4, taking first and second , with the Tour favorite Peter Sagan coming in 6th.
The bike certainly loves to sprint, and seems to holds its speed better on the flats than my TeamMachine, albeit not finding it as lively a climber.
But honestly i have not ridden that many miles using these wheels yet to get a great feel of the whole package in desirable conditions , as i had a tire clearance issue while they were setup tubeless , so the majority of the time in the saddle i was using box rims as winter salt had already hit the roads. At this point of the year in the east coast its the low point of my fitness, really looking forward to warmer days with less headwind to grow with it more and hammer some miles on it. Also may dial front end in more, may be sliding the bars down one spacer down the steerer.
Main warning i have on the frame is the rear clearance is spotty for 25c tires. Tires like Schwalbe Pro One 25c/ Specialized 26c rubbed, while i had better luck with Giant and Hutchinson tires which have a shorter sidewall and dont plump up as tall on a 17c-20c internal rim.
![Smilie](images/smilies/smile.gif)
Its a PF30, though i'm running GXP as the frameset as i purchased it was using Shimano and had a pretty nice Praxis bottom bracket in it already.
This was their flagship frame, the Podium Equipe . Unlike most manufacturers Diamondback doesn't offer 'tiers' of carbon, every group level gets same frame, same carbon layout. This particular frame is in the mid 900g range (i'd wager more due to its candy shell paint job), but a good blend of weight and strength.
DB has had pretty radical Aerodynamic developments (Serios TT, Andean Tri bikes) for a company out of the niche fray . That said this reincarnation of the Podium got trickle down Aerodynamic touches and wind tunnel development from its Serios Time Trial bike as a base point, several design cues are evident. Particularly the chunky downtube flow out to the rounded stays, i find that the most unique aspect of the overall look to the bike
![Smilie](images/smilies/smile.gif)
This being a 2017, it was last the year they offered rim brakes. For 2018 it was disc-only, The Podium Vitesse. From the looks of it, that marks this mode's run. Nothing for 2019, unless another incarnation is in the works.
The Podium does have some race/sprinting pedigree coming off this 2015 redesign. 2017 was a break-out year for both the men’s and women’s Rally Cycling squads: Together they won nine national championships in the US and Canada and took the overall win at five top stage races in North America. The most notable was was the Tour of California, Evan Huffman and Rob Brittons 5 man breakaway sprints in Stage 4, taking first and second , with the Tour favorite Peter Sagan coming in 6th.
The bike certainly loves to sprint, and seems to holds its speed better on the flats than my TeamMachine, albeit not finding it as lively a climber.
But honestly i have not ridden that many miles using these wheels yet to get a great feel of the whole package in desirable conditions , as i had a tire clearance issue while they were setup tubeless , so the majority of the time in the saddle i was using box rims as winter salt had already hit the roads. At this point of the year in the east coast its the low point of my fitness, really looking forward to warmer days with less headwind to grow with it more and hammer some miles on it. Also may dial front end in more, may be sliding the bars down one spacer down the steerer.
Main warning i have on the frame is the rear clearance is spotty for 25c tires. Tires like Schwalbe Pro One 25c/ Specialized 26c rubbed, while i had better luck with Giant and Hutchinson tires which have a shorter sidewall and dont plump up as tall on a 17c-20c internal rim.
Congrats on building that cool bike and good luck in the forthcoming riding season.
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Bikes: 2018 Diamondback Podium Equipe Dura Ace Disc, 2013 Felt z85 (now a frankenbike,) 1994 Serotta Colorado TG, 1999 Lemond Buenos Aires, 2017 State Undefeated II Track Bike, 2005 Litespeed Tuscany project
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Thank you, i think so. I sure can, long in the tooth too, as i did a fair amount of digging up on it ![Smilie](images/smilies/smile.gif)
Its a PF30, though i'm running GXP as the frameset as i purchased it was using Shimano and had a pretty nice Praxis bottom bracket in it already.
This was their flagship frame, the Podium Equipe . Unlike most manufacturers Diamondback doesn't offer 'tiers' of carbon, every group level gets same frame, same carbon layout. This particular frame is in the mid 900g range (i'd wager more due to its candy shell paint job), but a good blend of weight and strength.
DB has had pretty radical Aerodynamic developments (Serios TT, Andean Tri bikes) for a company out of the niche fray . That said this reincarnation of the Podium got trickle down Aerodynamic touches and wind tunnel development from its Serios Time Trial bike as a base point, several design cues are evident. Particularly the chunky downtube flow out to the rounded stays, i find that the most unique aspect of the overall look to the bike![Smilie](images/smilies/smile.gif)
This being a 2017, it was last the year they offered rim brakes. For 2018 it was disc-only, The Podium Vitesse. From the looks of it, that marks this mode's run. Nothing for 2019, unless another incarnation is in the works.
The Podium does have some race/sprinting pedigree coming off this 2015 redesign. 2017 was a break-out year for both the men’s and women’s Rally Cycling squads: Together they won nine national championships in the US and Canada and took the overall win at five top stage races in North America. The most notable was was the Tour of California, Evan Huffman and Rob Brittons 5 man breakaway sprints in Stage 4, taking first and second , with the Tour favorite Peter Sagan coming in 6th.
The bike certainly loves to sprint, and seems to holds its speed better on the flats than my TeamMachine, albeit not finding it as lively a climber.
But honestly i have not ridden that many miles using these wheels yet to get a great feel of the whole package in desirable conditions , as i had a tire clearance issue while they were setup tubeless , so the majority of the time in the saddle i was using box rims as winter salt had already hit the roads. At this point of the year in the east coast its the low point of my fitness, really looking forward to warmer days with less headwind to grow with it more and hammer some miles on it. Also may dial front end in more, may be sliding the bars down one spacer down the steerer.
Main warning i have on the frame is the rear clearance is spotty for 25c tires. Tires like Schwalbe Pro One 25c/ Specialized 26c rubbed, while i had better luck with Giant and Hutchinson tires which have a shorter sidewall and dont plump up as tall on a 17c-20c internal rim.
![Smilie](images/smilies/smile.gif)
Its a PF30, though i'm running GXP as the frameset as i purchased it was using Shimano and had a pretty nice Praxis bottom bracket in it already.
This was their flagship frame, the Podium Equipe . Unlike most manufacturers Diamondback doesn't offer 'tiers' of carbon, every group level gets same frame, same carbon layout. This particular frame is in the mid 900g range (i'd wager more due to its candy shell paint job), but a good blend of weight and strength.
DB has had pretty radical Aerodynamic developments (Serios TT, Andean Tri bikes) for a company out of the niche fray . That said this reincarnation of the Podium got trickle down Aerodynamic touches and wind tunnel development from its Serios Time Trial bike as a base point, several design cues are evident. Particularly the chunky downtube flow out to the rounded stays, i find that the most unique aspect of the overall look to the bike
![Smilie](images/smilies/smile.gif)
This being a 2017, it was last the year they offered rim brakes. For 2018 it was disc-only, The Podium Vitesse. From the looks of it, that marks this mode's run. Nothing for 2019, unless another incarnation is in the works.
The Podium does have some race/sprinting pedigree coming off this 2015 redesign. 2017 was a break-out year for both the men’s and women’s Rally Cycling squads: Together they won nine national championships in the US and Canada and took the overall win at five top stage races in North America. The most notable was was the Tour of California, Evan Huffman and Rob Brittons 5 man breakaway sprints in Stage 4, taking first and second , with the Tour favorite Peter Sagan coming in 6th.
The bike certainly loves to sprint, and seems to holds its speed better on the flats than my TeamMachine, albeit not finding it as lively a climber.
But honestly i have not ridden that many miles using these wheels yet to get a great feel of the whole package in desirable conditions , as i had a tire clearance issue while they were setup tubeless , so the majority of the time in the saddle i was using box rims as winter salt had already hit the roads. At this point of the year in the east coast its the low point of my fitness, really looking forward to warmer days with less headwind to grow with it more and hammer some miles on it. Also may dial front end in more, may be sliding the bars down one spacer down the steerer.
Main warning i have on the frame is the rear clearance is spotty for 25c tires. Tires like Schwalbe Pro One 25c/ Specialized 26c rubbed, while i had better luck with Giant and Hutchinson tires which have a shorter sidewall and dont plump up as tall on a 17c-20c internal rim.
![Smilie](images/smilies/smile.gif)
#98
Sorry about the water bottle and saddle bag, but I can't be asked to go out to my shed and take a photo without them on there. Mudguards are removable, but are on for the winter.
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I posted this one on the last hot or not thread. Made a few changes, namely bar tape. The colour scheme isn't for everyone, but I like it.
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I posted this one on the last hot or not thread. Made a few changes, namely bar tape. The colour scheme isn't for everyone, but I like it.
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Sorry about the water bottle and saddle bag, but I can't be asked to go out to my shed and take a photo without them on there. Mudguards are removable, but are on for the winter.
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I posted this one on the last hot or not thread. Made a few changes, namely bar tape. The colour scheme isn't for everyone, but I like it.
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I posted this one on the last hot or not thread. Made a few changes, namely bar tape. The colour scheme isn't for everyone, but I like it.
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