Japan and Eroica Japan (huge success)
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Japan and Eroica Japan (huge success)
Japan is strange, weird and wonderful. Technologically advanced in some areas, cuteness overload in others.
I lived there in 1986-87. Toilets were a hole in the ground to squat over with marked feet areas. Today, even public toilets are heated units with a washing arm to get your parts clean.
Apparently some rubes still have to be taught this as seen by this sign from the first toilet I encountered in the airport upon arriving.
Also please note the list of "no items allowed" are different than our usual list; "nunchuks, and throwing stars" aren't anything I own, let alone pack for a trip.
You know how our airports have "ambassadors" or assistance to push wheel chairs around the airports, plus move them to their needed gates? Japan's are robotic and drive themselves where needed. Not as dangerous as the self driving semi-trucks depicted in the film Logan, but watch out none the less.
They sell food and drink everywhere from the tiniest of cafe's, 7-11s, vending machines, restaurants on every rooftop and food trucks. Its also frowned upon to eat or drink in public, while walking around. Should you decide to duck behind an alley or stand in the corner facing a vending machine to put a few strange flavors of KitKats in your mouth, you will walk blocks wondering how the whole country is both simultaneously spotless and there are no garbage cans. Zero. Ever.
I lived there in 1986-87. Toilets were a hole in the ground to squat over with marked feet areas. Today, even public toilets are heated units with a washing arm to get your parts clean.
Apparently some rubes still have to be taught this as seen by this sign from the first toilet I encountered in the airport upon arriving.
Also please note the list of "no items allowed" are different than our usual list; "nunchuks, and throwing stars" aren't anything I own, let alone pack for a trip.
You know how our airports have "ambassadors" or assistance to push wheel chairs around the airports, plus move them to their needed gates? Japan's are robotic and drive themselves where needed. Not as dangerous as the self driving semi-trucks depicted in the film Logan, but watch out none the less.
They sell food and drink everywhere from the tiniest of cafe's, 7-11s, vending machines, restaurants on every rooftop and food trucks. Its also frowned upon to eat or drink in public, while walking around. Should you decide to duck behind an alley or stand in the corner facing a vending machine to put a few strange flavors of KitKats in your mouth, you will walk blocks wondering how the whole country is both simultaneously spotless and there are no garbage cans. Zero. Ever.
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I tried a few of the strange (to me) foods. Corn and shrimp on pizza, why not. Corn and mayo on French roll? Maybe I'll get something different next time.
Like Fritos with a sprinkle of the flavor pack from instant ramen
Never again
I like Campari. I like beer. Bad idea blending them.
We often think of sushi when thinking of Japanese food. I believe the majority of the food is either served on sticks or in bowls.
Cafes come in all sorts, from Maid Cafe's where young ladies serve you looking like an anime version of a French maid (popular for singles and couples to visit) to cafes with every sort of cute animal to pet, hold, feed and maybe even adopt. Not finding a "badger" cafe, I opted for otters.
This otter’s name was Potato!!
Like Fritos with a sprinkle of the flavor pack from instant ramen
Never again
I like Campari. I like beer. Bad idea blending them.
We often think of sushi when thinking of Japanese food. I believe the majority of the food is either served on sticks or in bowls.
Cafes come in all sorts, from Maid Cafe's where young ladies serve you looking like an anime version of a French maid (popular for singles and couples to visit) to cafes with every sort of cute animal to pet, hold, feed and maybe even adopt. Not finding a "badger" cafe, I opted for otters.
This otter’s name was Potato!!
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The bullet train depresses me. Why can’t we have nice things.
Really, since 1975? The train from Portland to Seattle takes longer than driving, plus is 8% on time.
See the raised rail, that’s the fast part that provides the mag-lev
I’m sure this is aimed at Americans
the Izu peninsula lies just south of Mount Fuji. It has it all from bicycle parks where the 2020 Olympics were held to bicycle themed restaurants.
Always stunning
Yup, look at the order of importance!! As it should be.
Bikes have to transported in special bags. The local train was the one exception.
Local pride
Outside a pizza place called Crank with a crank for a door handle. Didn’t know the Japanese made a “screw and glue” frame. Note: unlocked. Not even a window to keep an eye on it. If the pizza shop was open, the bike was outside.
Really, since 1975? The train from Portland to Seattle takes longer than driving, plus is 8% on time.
See the raised rail, that’s the fast part that provides the mag-lev
I’m sure this is aimed at Americans
the Izu peninsula lies just south of Mount Fuji. It has it all from bicycle parks where the 2020 Olympics were held to bicycle themed restaurants.
Always stunning
Yup, look at the order of importance!! As it should be.
Bikes have to transported in special bags. The local train was the one exception.
Local pride
Outside a pizza place called Crank with a crank for a door handle. Didn’t know the Japanese made a “screw and glue” frame. Note: unlocked. Not even a window to keep an eye on it. If the pizza shop was open, the bike was outside.
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The event was held in the community center across from a train station that allowed bikes. Incredibly easy to get to.
Everything has good signage. A lot of volunteers to help with everything.
Check out the schedule of events. The seminars were amazing.
Everything has good signage. A lot of volunteers to help with everything.
Check out the schedule of events. The seminars were amazing.
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H**Y CRAP MAN, so cool!!!!
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Great reporting! I’m looking forward to the next update.
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Arigato for the great write up
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I sorta wanted to see Maid Cafe pics, rather than the Otter Cafe ones. lol
Perhaps you saw some 3Renshos. I plan to sell a NOS full Dura Ace '90 model this Summer. See below.
Awesome thread. We travel to Japan next week for a vacation. Never visited the country.
Perhaps you saw some 3Renshos. I plan to sell a NOS full Dura Ace '90 model this Summer. See below.
Awesome thread. We travel to Japan next week for a vacation. Never visited the country.
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Having lived there in the 1990s, your post is a trip down memory lane. Please keep posting more!
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The Eroica village was at a community center. It was well planned and had it all.
Saturday was the rides for everyone, electric, carbon to vintage. Sunday was for the vintage. Saturday night also featured a sit-down dinner, allowing one to make friends and find out about where people came from, etc.
Venue from above. Stage, loud speakers but not too load. Places to sit!!
The stage
From the Brooks booth, cow-hide with saddles punched out.
Before the local parade / ride around with the mayor and local governor.
- Japanese foods
- local brewed beers
- italian foods
- italian beers, wines and cocktails
- vender booths from sponsors like Colnago, Brooks, Steel Vintage Bikes, Maipei, etc.
- grass
- places to sit
- places to park your bike
- non-stop entertainment, none to loud, always welcomed
- swap meet area for vintage parts, for the most part either incredible priced or our dollar vs the yen.
- a show n’ shine
- a venue for seminars with English translation.
- kimono rentals to have your pic taken with Fuji in the background, or just walk around in
- traditional tea ceremony
Saturday was the rides for everyone, electric, carbon to vintage. Sunday was for the vintage. Saturday night also featured a sit-down dinner, allowing one to make friends and find out about where people came from, etc.
Venue from above. Stage, loud speakers but not too load. Places to sit!!
The stage
From the Brooks booth, cow-hide with saddles punched out.
Before the local parade / ride around with the mayor and local governor.
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Couple things to get out of the way:
1, you have to get your bike inspected by a shop prior to showing up. This was less about having the proper vintage bits and more about safety. There was a list of Tokyo based shops that would inspect and sign your form for about $10 or show up day of and pay $20 for the pop-up shop on-site.
2, In Japan, all bikes must be insured. Not for theft or your own personal injury, in Japan bikes are vehicles and this protects you in case you hit someone or damage someone else’s property. It costs about $20 for a year and can be bought at any 7-11. The instructions are in Japanese and use your local hotel’s address and phone number. MOST IMPORTANT, you can not buy and use the day of. It only becomes valid after midnight the day following the purchase.
Both these things must be turned in at registration or your bike and bib number will not be issued.
Frankly I was thankful for this. I didn't notice my front brake mounting nut was loose.
1, you have to get your bike inspected by a shop prior to showing up. This was less about having the proper vintage bits and more about safety. There was a list of Tokyo based shops that would inspect and sign your form for about $10 or show up day of and pay $20 for the pop-up shop on-site.
2, In Japan, all bikes must be insured. Not for theft or your own personal injury, in Japan bikes are vehicles and this protects you in case you hit someone or damage someone else’s property. It costs about $20 for a year and can be bought at any 7-11. The instructions are in Japanese and use your local hotel’s address and phone number. MOST IMPORTANT, you can not buy and use the day of. It only becomes valid after midnight the day following the purchase.
Both these things must be turned in at registration or your bike and bib number will not be issued.
Frankly I was thankful for this. I didn't notice my front brake mounting nut was loose.
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The bikes.
The usual Italians were there. Only a few French and even less English. Just a handful of 3Rensho. Their economy wasn't the best in the early 80s. That's why so many bikes were built in Japan and Brought to the US. I saw any more Japanese handbill by those I knew, and some I hadn't. Stunning work.
Remember, Japan was closed to all outsiders until 1858. They had little European influence. One of the great seminars was from the head of Maipei who explained how the 1964 Olympics in Japan really influenced bikes, bike racing, riding and design. 3Rensho found some old Cinelli track frames, dismantled them and learned bike building that way. DeRosa, Masi, Colnago and Cinelli become sought after.
Strange to me….knowing how DeRosa stayed small, but Colnago blew up especially after Bikology featured them in catalogues, I was surprised to see more DeRosa than any other Italian brand. They even had their own DeRosa fan club tent.
That's $833 in USD$
The usual Italians were there. Only a few French and even less English. Just a handful of 3Rensho. Their economy wasn't the best in the early 80s. That's why so many bikes were built in Japan and Brought to the US. I saw any more Japanese handbill by those I knew, and some I hadn't. Stunning work.
Remember, Japan was closed to all outsiders until 1858. They had little European influence. One of the great seminars was from the head of Maipei who explained how the 1964 Olympics in Japan really influenced bikes, bike racing, riding and design. 3Rensho found some old Cinelli track frames, dismantled them and learned bike building that way. DeRosa, Masi, Colnago and Cinelli become sought after.
Strange to me….knowing how DeRosa stayed small, but Colnago blew up especially after Bikology featured them in catalogues, I was surprised to see more DeRosa than any other Italian brand. They even had their own DeRosa fan club tent.
That's $833 in USD$
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Stunning build
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From the show n shine
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More show n shine*
Not one, but two!!
This Masi is from 2022!!
Mark, can you comment on strength? Seems suspect but I’m no builder.
Love the drilled bits, and chain pins
* 4 of these were owned by a Tokyo based doctor. Cycling is his passion and yes, his collection of rare beauties belong in museums, he also is not afraid to play with his toys. I was most impressed with his Cinelli Laser that he rode.
Not one, but two!!
This Masi is from 2022!!
Mark, can you comment on strength? Seems suspect but I’m no builder.
Love the drilled bits, and chain pins
* 4 of these were owned by a Tokyo based doctor. Cycling is his passion and yes, his collection of rare beauties belong in museums, he also is not afraid to play with his toys. I was most impressed with his Cinelli Laser that he rode.
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Last show n shine
Aligator??
Not sure how comfy
Aligator??
Not sure how comfy
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Before I get to more bikes/swap meet, etc
we must discuss this Colnago master.
Saronni red.
Straddle height of a size 56 frame…..
but 24” wheels.
what the eff is really going on here??
Nicest fellow. I wanted to use google translate to ask one question………..why? But after the town parade I never saw him again
we must discuss this Colnago master.
Saronni red.
Straddle height of a size 56 frame…..
but 24” wheels.
what the eff is really going on here??
Nicest fellow. I wanted to use google translate to ask one question………..why? But after the town parade I never saw him again
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Thanks for the journal entries! Really cool, Rob! I especially liked the cultural stuff. My son is considering a few years in Japan and I am completely supporting it!
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Want!
Thank you for the elaborate write-up and great pictures! This is one Eroica I probably won't be doing myself, alas.
Thank you for the elaborate write-up and great pictures! This is one Eroica I probably won't be doing myself, alas.
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Still no comments on the 24” wheeled colnago
anyway, More bike porn:
All the accessories. One of these was for sale locally on CL last year.
anyway, More bike porn:
All the accessories. One of these was for sale locally on CL last year.
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Laser!!!!!
Laser!!!!!
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One of the seminars included this man, noted as the father of Dura-Ace
Japan has its own cycling Chanel. I never found it on the hotel tv
Shimano museum of the bicycle!!
Japan has its own cycling Chanel. I never found it on the hotel tv
Shimano museum of the bicycle!!
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Japan is exotic pet crazy!!
Not only are there cafes to meet your favorites, but this young girl had a freaking Meerkat with her.
“Eagles may soar, but weasels don’t get sucked into Jet Engines” I told her. Then she corrected me that it was a Meerkat
Not only are there cafes to meet your favorites, but this young girl had a freaking Meerkat with her.
“Eagles may soar, but weasels don’t get sucked into Jet Engines” I told her. Then she corrected me that it was a Meerkat
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Some Aussies sat at the dinner table.
I didn’t recognize him, but several stopped by to say hello to Keith.
Keith!!
this guy showed up during dinner with his girlfriend and best friend looking absolutely whupped. He had just finished the longest ride. They had issues. Something about disc brakes.
Grass!! So much better than dusty gravel.
while pouring him some of Oregon’s finest, it was discovered he grew up in Tualatin (just south of Portland).
I didn’t know how the Japanese feel about champagne sabers, so I left mine home and used a Hozan pedal wrench.
awards were given to those who helped organize the most. Really cool snow globes!!
Seiichi from Corsa Corsa
I didn’t recognize him, but several stopped by to say hello to Keith.
Keith!!
this guy showed up during dinner with his girlfriend and best friend looking absolutely whupped. He had just finished the longest ride. They had issues. Something about disc brakes.
Grass!! So much better than dusty gravel.
while pouring him some of Oregon’s finest, it was discovered he grew up in Tualatin (just south of Portland).
I didn’t know how the Japanese feel about champagne sabers, so I left mine home and used a Hozan pedal wrench.
awards were given to those who helped organize the most. Really cool snow globes!!
Seiichi from Corsa Corsa
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Very interesting stuff 
thanks for sharing
thanks for sharing