PawasSukaIkuyo

Many people in Indonesian cycling forum said "tubular is danger" "tubular for skidding isnt safe" "if you skid with tubular rims, the tire will opened", but I wanted to ask if anyone has tried tubular rims for skidding, is it safe?

Iride01 

Safe? Safe from what?

They are your tires. If you don't mind the replacement costs of changing them when needed, then do what you want.

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indyfabz

Maybe ask this guy?;

https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...-question.html

79pmooney

My wallet says "no, it's not safe!" Now if you have access to free tubulars, sure. Especially ones with thick threads. But skidding is what we did as kids to destroy tires. Properly glued, those skid-flatted tires should stay on and enable you to stop emphasizing the front brake.

Edit: and yes, I have flatted tubulars skidding, Usually from thrown chains on fast downhills. On cheap cranksets where the chain went tight, then loose every revolution. Never crashed but those events were always excessively exciting.

veganbikes

Skidding is never safe on anything. It is not stopping and it leaves a brown streak in your underwear. Brakes are there for a reason to allow you to stop when you need to stop. Skidding is an uncontrolled way of sort of slowing down. It also ruins tires, if you have the money and time and you like brown stained underwear than go for it but keep in mind it is not stopping and I would make sure to have brakes.

The reason TRACK bikes don't have brakes is because on a TRACK everyone is going in the same direction doing the same thing brakes would be dangerous on the streets nothing is predictable and people are going in all different directions and that is why brakes are helpful.

Learning to control your legs a bit isn't a bad skill to have and being able to slow down a bit and modulate speed without brakes but I wouldn't use it for actual trying to "stop"

rsbob 

Skidding on any tire is never a good idea. Besides creating a flat spot, it’s a very good way to lose control.

RCMoeur 

The only times I ever recall skidding tubulars was in the short period of the perception-reaction sequence following the realization of "I think a pack crash is developing in front of me" and then my joining the fun of said crash, more often than not using one rider under me as a launch point and other riders and the roadway surface as a decelerant. Not recommended.

I suppose if someone has their heart set on skidding tubulars for the sake of doing so and has the wallet and patience to deal with it, they'd probably be quite skiddable, although most of the ones I'm familiar with have such thin treads that you'll be seeing cords or exposing tubes in no time. Just make sure they're glued on securely.

Should a rider experience a flat tire, tubulars have a well-known advantage in that they offer better run-flat handling (until/unless they roll off the rim). My sudden front flat decades ago on sew-ups at 60 mph down a steep straight grade was much more survivable due to the tire flattening itself evenly on the rim, allowing me a bit of control as I slowed.

Wildwood 

I used to skid my 33mm cyclocross tubulars on occasion in the gravel, of course.

for skidding on pavement, which I would not recommend, gluing - with a triple coat out to the edges would seem sensible.

for skinny tubulars, try the 22mm Conti Sprinters. Mine have seemed tough as nails, go high pressure and hold it day to day.

MarcusT

If the glue is good, then skid to your heart's content

Trakhak

Poster made one post and then disappeared. If s/he were actively participating in this thread, I'd want to know what exactly is meant by "tubular" in the opening post.

The slightly awkward English and the somewhat implausible statement that "many" people on Indonesian bike forums are talking about tubular wheels (i.e., those that use sewup tires that glue to the rims) - let alone about skidding on them - suggest that "tubular" more likely represents tubed (or maybe tubeless) clinchers.

indyfabz

See link in my post #3 above. I smell a stinky sock.

Trakhak

Reasonable guess, and good sleuthing. But I don't remember ever seeing a sock for an account that hasn't been banned.

50PlusCycling

Skidding with any kind of tire isn’t safe. When you are skidding, you are either showing off (like my friends and I did as kids), or are doing something wrong. My friends and I stopped doing show-off skids when we had to buy our own tires (you had to sell a lot of newspapers to get a new back tire), and by that time we knew how to ride a bike without doing too much wrong.

joeruge

The answer is 'No.' And the question is 'Why?'