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Old 01-28-13, 08:11 PM
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Ok guys, I'm back with measurements! My friend and I used a flexible tape measure so it isn't as accurate as rigid construction one but nonetheless. We somehow kept getting either 32 inches or 32.5 for my inseam so I put in the average, 32.25 inches. Also learned that I'm actually 5'11 -5'11.5.

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I also find these bikes on craigslist.

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https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...577169792.html

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Perfect. Now convert it to metric and find something that fits "Eddy" style.
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So I'm assuming I choose a bike on "seat tube range c-c" The Eddy fit is in the 54cm range, however the Kilo only comes in 53 and 55 cm varieties. Is there anything wrong with the competitive fit?

Can someone comment on the bikes in those Craigslist links?
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The felt is 56cm which would be a bit too big.
The Scatante is a 58cm, which is way too big.

You would be able to pull off a 55cm frame though.
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Could the Scatantes run big? The owner says he's 5'10 and is able to ride it comfortably.

What size Kilo do you think I should get considering that they are measured from center to center.
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55cm. You may be able to pull off the felt, that's still in the range where you could fine tune it fit wise. There is no way a 5'10 person could ride a 58cm frame comfortably.
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The felt could be measured from center to top though, unlike the Kilo which is from center to center, I could be totally wrong, I'm just speculating. Hmmm, I gave my inseam and height to a few ******ors and to Bikes Direct not the in-depth measurements.) And many of them said to get the 53cm frame. Bikes Direct said I can get a 53cm for a more aggressive fit or a 55cm for a more laid back fit. Thus I am in a totally confused state.


Edit: I also plan on chopping and flopping my drop bars to bullhorns if that makes any difference.
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32.5 inseam is too big to be comfortable on a 53cm. What's the numbers for your upper body? It may be able to size it up via top tube.
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My full measurements are in a screen shot at the top of the page. My inseam is 32.25 inches as I took the average of my two measurements, 32 and 32.5 inches.
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55cm, and the 56cm felt could be pulled off.
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55cm, and the 56cm felt could be pulled off.
Thanks so much! Do you know how the felt compares to the kilo tt pro?
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I help my friend put together a Kilo TT Pro and the wheels have pretty bad tension.
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Have I been wrong all this time assuming that first of all, 53 to 55 cm is NOT a very large amount of anything, and that any "not perfect" measurements can be corrected by slight adjustments in seat vs. post (up, down, front, back, tilt--up and down...to get level) combined with stem length, degree offset and whether up or down---depending on the currently installed bars and seat vs. post adjustments???? Or have I just not been anal enough in thinking that so long as it's not too big and just size or so small I can adjust it enough to fit.

It seem a lot like guys that ask questions about ordering guitars online instead of going to a store and playing an assortment. They get hung up on numbers that don't mean $h1t to a tree, probably don't transpose accurately from brand to brand and they are probably three generations away from telling the difference anyway.
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Hey guys I know that this is terrible off topic but I am around the same size as you and I was also planning on purchasing a Mercier Kilo TT Pro would you be kind enough to tell me weather I would be a 53 or 55?
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Kilo TT Pro: Top Tube Length: 560cm which is in the range for the eddy fit with your dimensions. Seatube Length 55cm, which works as well.
Felt: 560cm Top Tube, C-C Top Tube 54 cm, seat tube:520

Either will work, The TT Pro on the geometry chart does not mention C-C for the tube lengths.

C-C means Center to Center.

Either will be fine, so I would say it comes down to parts spec....
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Originally Posted by Dannihilator
Kilo TT Pro: Top Tube Length: 560cm which is in the range for the eddy fit with your dimensions. Seatube Length 55cm, which works as well.
Felt: 560cm Top Tube, C-C Top Tube 54 cm, seat tube:520

Either will work, The TT Pro on the geometry chart does not mention C-C for the tube lengths.

C-C means Center to Center.

Either will be fine, so I would say it comes down to parts spec....
Anything wrong with the competitive fit? When I get the bike, how can I physically tell if the bike fits well?
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Originally Posted by gregjones
Have I been wrong all this time assuming that first of all, 53 to 55 cm is NOT a very large amount of anything, and that any "not perfect" measurements can be corrected by slight adjustments in seat vs. post (up, down, front, back, tilt--up and down...to get level) combined with stem length, degree offset and whether up or down---depending on the currently installed bars and seat vs. post adjustments???? Or have I just not been anal enough in thinking that so long as it's not too big and just size or so small I can adjust it enough to fit.

It seem a lot like guys that ask questions about ordering guitars online instead of going to a store and playing an assortment. They get hung up on numbers that don't mean $h1t to a tree, probably don't transpose accurately from brand to brand and they are probably three generations away from telling the difference anyway.
53cm-55cm is significant. But the OP's numbers are towards the area where either 55 or 56 will work, so I wouldn't even have a 53 cm frame as an option.
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Originally Posted by tlu94
Anything wrong with the competitive fit? When I get the bike, how can I physically tell if the bike fits well?
I would suggest not doing the competitive fit, since you are not going to be racing where the more aerodynamic positioning of the competitive fit would be beneficial. For your needs, the eddy fit gives you a more comfortable positioning on the bike, but still provides a stance on the bike that you can go fast on.

It should be that you are not putting much weight on your hands/wrists. Knees having a slight bend at the 6 and 12 positioning. Frame size is the starting point, to fine tune it that's where stem length, seat post height and saddle positioning comes in to play. Ideally, you shouldn't have to mess all that much with the saddle positioning.
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Ok thanks again, uhhhh why is this so stressful, 3 or 4 ******ors who ride Kilo TT's who say they have the same inseam and height as me say to go with the 53cm and a few say to go 55cm, however are definitely the most knowledgeable riders, so I most likely will go with the 55cm. If it ends up being big, what can I do to make it fit?
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It's a fairly big buy. I'm very certain that the 55cm will be right. Easiest would likely be different length stem and seat post height adjustment.
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_
For perspective, I'm 6' with a 33.75" inseam and ride a 55cm Kilo.

No ****ing way you'd fit me on 53. Use the fit calculator.
But Nagrom is 6' and has a substantially longer inseam and rides a 55, so this confuses me a bit.
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Originally Posted by tlu94
When I get the bike, how can I physically tell if the bike fits well?
It seems a lot like guys that ask questions about ordering guitars online instead of going to a store and playing an assortment. They get hung up on numbers that don't mean $h1t to a tree, probably don't transpose accurately from brand to brand and they are probably three generations away from telling the difference anyway.
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Originally Posted by gregjones
It seems a lot like guys that ask questions about ordering guitars online instead of going to a store and playing an assortment. They get hung up on numbers that don't mean $h1t to a tree, probably don't transpose accurately from brand to brand and they are probably three generations away from telling the difference anyway.
Why did you post that twice? Well, I don't really have a place to try out a Kilo TT and not everyone is able to pay a return shipping fee if the bike doesn't fit.

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Originally Posted by tlu94
But Nagrom is 6' and has a substantially longer inseam and rides a 55, so this confuses me a bit.
Frames fit a range of sizes, and not all people are the same proportions, it's just that 53 will be too small.

I'm 6' as well, but have a 30" inseam and a 54 or 55cm frame is perfect for me. My set up right now which is pretty much perfection for me:

100mm stem
120mm seatpost height
0 degree setback
Saddle in middle of rails.
5 headset spacers between stem and headset.
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Originally Posted by Dannihilator
Frames fit a range of sizes, and not all people are the same proportions, it's just that 53 will be too small.

I'm 6' as well, but have a 30" inseam and a 54 or 55cm frame is perfect for me. My set up right now which is pretty much perfection for me:

100mm stem
120mm seatpost height
0 degree setback
Saddle in middle of rails.
5 headset spacers between stem and headset.
Makes sense, but just to make sure, are you aware that Kilo TT's run big because they are measured from center to center instead of the conventional center to top? (I.E. a 53cm Kilo is actually a 55cm frame.)
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