Mirror vs. Glance over your shoulder
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Mirror vs. Glance over your shoulder
Two friends recently got hit by a truck from behind. I've been a bit more hypervigilent & find myself looking over my shoulder more often. When I first got into cycling, I used a helmet mirror but found it disorienting. I spent more time looking into the mirror making sure I got a good look at the road (being anxious that I may not perceive things accurately, adjusting it, etc.). Ultimately I didn't trust the mirror as much as a quick glance over my shoulder. I'm thinking about trying the mirror again but some have suggested otherwise. I'm curious about your opinions on this.
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Some consider a mirror a sign of weakness. I wear omnivision contacts, and my left eye is near vision, which means if I look back I don't really see anything. A mirror fixes that. My neck is also stiff.
So for me, it's the mirror.
So for me, it's the mirror.
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I have used a mirror in the past. For 2010, I've been going without a mirror.
A mirror is better because you are able to maintain part of your vision to the front. Looking back, you have no ability to pick up on sudden movements or obstacles to your front (and vice versa).
I never have used a helmet-mounted mirror, though. I can understand how that would be disorienting. I used a brifter-mounted mirror and it worked very well.
A mirror is better because you are able to maintain part of your vision to the front. Looking back, you have no ability to pick up on sudden movements or obstacles to your front (and vice versa).
I never have used a helmet-mounted mirror, though. I can understand how that would be disorienting. I used a brifter-mounted mirror and it worked very well.
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Two friends recently got hit by a truck from behind. I've been a bit more hypervigilent & find myself looking over my shoulder more often. When I first got into cycling, I used a helmet mirror but found it disorienting. I spent more time looking into the mirror making sure I got a good look at the road (being anxious that I may not perceive things accurately, adjusting it, etc.). Ultimately I didn't trust the mirror as much as a quick glance over my shoulder. I'm thinking about trying the mirror again but some have suggested otherwise. I'm curious about your opinions on this.
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Glasses mounted mirror here. I can't seem to ride in a straight line and look over my shoulder at the same time. When I do look back it's typically an under the armpit glance.
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I would get a bar end mirror like this.
https://www.buzzillions.com/reviews/s...r-p001-reviews
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...665NS4DAD0XPY4
It fits the lines of the bike such that it looks like it belongs on the cycle.
https://www.buzzillions.com/reviews/s...r-p001-reviews
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...665NS4DAD0XPY4
It fits the lines of the bike such that it looks like it belongs on the cycle.
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I could not get the hang of the helmet or eyeglass mirrors, either. But, a bar mounted mirror works well. You don't have to take your attention off the road to use it, and you'll quickly learn to trust it, because there is no blind spot.
I use THIS ONE. It's great; no vibration, no blind spot. Better Fred than dead for me. But, if you want to be discreet, try a bar-end mirror, like THIS ONE. I haven't used one, but I've seen lots of them on road bikes, and they look much less Fred than mine.
I use THIS ONE. It's great; no vibration, no blind spot. Better Fred than dead for me. But, if you want to be discreet, try a bar-end mirror, like THIS ONE. I haven't used one, but I've seen lots of them on road bikes, and they look much less Fred than mine.
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I have a bar-end mirror but I also glance over my shoulder a lot. It depends on the situation, but I find both approaches useful on a typical ride. Basically, a mirror lets you know that a car is approaching. Actually looking at the approaching car tells you how fast it's going and where it is on the road.
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I start and end each ride with 2 miles with no shoulder on a road occupied with teenage and monster truck drivers and I don't completely trust the concept of 'hold your line and you'll be fine.' Although to be fair, the guys with big trucks generally give me more room than anybody.
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https://www.rei.com/product/752285?pr...:referralID=NA
There's a more commonly available plastic mirror and that works fine too but I find the plastic tabs break after a season or two.
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Oh, my mistake, I thought by glasses mounted you meant the small 'spy' type mirror that sticks on the inside of your glasses. Anybody have any experience with that type of mirror?
Something like this https://www.cycleaware.com/index.php?...&products_id=3
Something like this https://www.cycleaware.com/index.php?...&products_id=3
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I found the glasses-mounted mirror always got out of position and was a pain to re-affix for every ride, but I love my helmet-mounted third eye.
and yes, I still glance over my shoulder at times
and yes, I still glance over my shoulder at times
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I will not ride without a mirror because it is easier to look in the mirror than it is to turn look over my shoulder, I will do it more often. It only needs to keep me from an accident once to justify havin it.
As far as types of mirrors, a helmet or eye glasses mirror has an advantage over the a handlerbar mounted mirror. A handlebar mirror will provide a fixed view backwards. It may not show you want you want to see. With a helmet or glasses mounted mirror, you can move your head slightly to the right or left and get a wider view.
I ride with this mirror and it works very well:
https://www.amazon.com/Bike-Peddler-C.../dp/B001VTQNVO
As far as types of mirrors, a helmet or eye glasses mirror has an advantage over the a handlerbar mounted mirror. A handlebar mirror will provide a fixed view backwards. It may not show you want you want to see. With a helmet or glasses mounted mirror, you can move your head slightly to the right or left and get a wider view.
I ride with this mirror and it works very well:
https://www.amazon.com/Bike-Peddler-C.../dp/B001VTQNVO
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I would get a bar end mirror like this.
https://www.buzzillions.com/reviews/s...r-p001-reviews
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...665NS4DAD0XPY4
It fits the lines of the bike such that it looks like it belongs on the cycle.
https://www.buzzillions.com/reviews/s...r-p001-reviews
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...665NS4DAD0XPY4
It fits the lines of the bike such that it looks like it belongs on the cycle.
I like this as well.
Convex, everything appears much further away but it is easy to adjust and I find it more convenient over glass and helmet mounted tangles and bumping. I like to think it is 0.001% more aerodynamic and most importantly 0.002% less geeky.
I use mirrors as age related reduction in range of motion makes looking back less effective.
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I use a mirror when I know I'll be riding in heavy traffic. When I have to do something tricky like shift across three lanes of traffic from the right shoulder in order to turn left, I don't like having to constantly turn around and look behind myself. I've gotten pretty good at not drifting while I turn and check, but it's great in traffic. I also like the mirror for when I'm going to be descending steep or tricky hills (by my standards) because sometimes I like to take the whole lane, etc, and it's nice to always know if that's a safe thing to do.
But, to be honest, I probably only use my mirror about 20% of the time I'm riding. If the traffic isn't really heavy then it's mainly a burden.
But, to be honest, I probably only use my mirror about 20% of the time I'm riding. If the traffic isn't really heavy then it's mainly a burden.
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I've been going without a helmet mirror the past year mainly because I'm having trouble mounting my favorite one onto my favorite helmet. I've also been doing pretty well as far as awareness goes (don't trust my ears and STILL get a look if I want to deviate from straight-n-narrow).
What I don't like about turning my head is that, because of my glasses, I have to turn my head farther than a non-glasses-wearer to see anything better than a blur. I have to stick my chin into my armpit so I can look though the glasses lens instead of around the frame.
My rain helmet has a mirror, though, and I use it every time I wear it.
What I don't like about turning my head is that, because of my glasses, I have to turn my head farther than a non-glasses-wearer to see anything better than a blur. I have to stick my chin into my armpit so I can look though the glasses lens instead of around the frame.
My rain helmet has a mirror, though, and I use it every time I wear it.
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shoulder/pit glance.... plus I heavily rely on my ears
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I don't want a mirror or any other glass item near my face that could shatter in a crash on my bike. With a little more flexibility, just turn your head, but be sure not to turn your handlebars at the same time!!
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I use the Third Eye eyeglass mounted mirror about half of the time. It's great for riding with my wife and making sure that I haven't dropped her. I like it also on descents when I can't hear the cars as well and I want to know when I can take the whole lane.
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Pretty much how I wound up doing it. The pit glance did not throw my balance off as much.
The issue with ears as that some large vehicles are very very quiet but I got pretty good at knowing what was coming based on the sound.
I tried about every mirror out there and hated them all.
Hmm wouldn't a seat mounted back up camera be real nice?
The issue with ears as that some large vehicles are very very quiet but I got pretty good at knowing what was coming based on the sound.
I tried about every mirror out there and hated them all.
Hmm wouldn't a seat mounted back up camera be real nice?
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I don't really understand the need for a mirror. You said your friends were hit from behind by a truck. What good would a mirror have been?
If there is a car or truck coming it's not like it will be over the white lane or into the bike lane for the previous mile before hitting you.
I ride as far right as practical - all the time. As I understand it bicycle accidents occurring because a motorist hit the cyclist from behind are the most rare. On tight country roads I can hear the cars and trucks coming and I do conciously try to make as much room as possible. I don't find myself looking back often at all.
If there is a car or truck coming it's not like it will be over the white lane or into the bike lane for the previous mile before hitting you.
I ride as far right as practical - all the time. As I understand it bicycle accidents occurring because a motorist hit the cyclist from behind are the most rare. On tight country roads I can hear the cars and trucks coming and I do conciously try to make as much room as possible. I don't find myself looking back often at all.
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Everyone should do what makes sense to them; I'll just keeping looking over my shoulder.
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I don't really understand the need for a mirror. You said your friends were hit from behind by a truck. What good would a mirror have been?
If there is a car or truck coming it's not like it will be over the white lane or into the bike lane for the previous mile before hitting you.
I ride as far right as practical - all the time. As I understand it bicycle accidents occurring because a motorist hit the cyclist from behind are the most rare. On tight country roads I can hear the cars and trucks coming and I do conciously try to make as much room as possible. I don't find myself looking back often at all.
If there is a car or truck coming it's not like it will be over the white lane or into the bike lane for the previous mile before hitting you.
I ride as far right as practical - all the time. As I understand it bicycle accidents occurring because a motorist hit the cyclist from behind are the most rare. On tight country roads I can hear the cars and trucks coming and I do conciously try to make as much room as possible. I don't find myself looking back often at all.
Listening and then looking over your shoulder often leads to drifting out at exactly the wrong moment, at least for some, myself included. Looking in the mirror, you can usually tell that most cars are slowing down and/or going around, so there is no need to react. But, if not, it puts you on guard, you get over, and prepare to bail, or give a "hand signal" if necessary.
I won't say you're wrong for not using a mirror if you don't want to use one. But, it's hard to imagine you can't see any possible benefit to someone else.
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I've been practicing looking over my right shoulder of late, in case I ever get around to trying out some road races, or wind up cycling in the UK, Australia or Japan.
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I don't really understand the need for a mirror. You said your friends were hit from behind by a truck. What good would a mirror have been?
If there is a car or truck coming it's not like it will be over the white lane or into the bike lane for the previous mile before hitting you.
I ride as far right as practical - all the time. As I understand it bicycle accidents occurring because a motorist hit the cyclist from behind are the most rare. On tight country roads I can hear the cars and trucks coming and I do conciously try to make as much room as possible. I don't find myself looking back often at all.
If there is a car or truck coming it's not like it will be over the white lane or into the bike lane for the previous mile before hitting you.
I ride as far right as practical - all the time. As I understand it bicycle accidents occurring because a motorist hit the cyclist from behind are the most rare. On tight country roads I can hear the cars and trucks coming and I do conciously try to make as much room as possible. I don't find myself looking back often at all.