Why are Modern Bikes So Expensive?
03-26-24, 02:36 PM
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Not modern yes , but entirely made in Italy with the highest degree of craftsmanship and campy record tranmission explain the heavy pricetag. C40 and C35 are much more desirable and collectible than some other carbon made frames. The frames were used successfully bei the Mapei team with Johan Museeuw back then.
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Yes that is true and they were fitted dura ace 7700 as far as I can recall. Even at the time of Tony Rominger who used the Colnago Bititan and Ovaltitan , Mapei used the Dura Ace 7410 transmission
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03-26-24, 03:03 PM
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Anything that is nuovo record and new old stock or showroom condition regarding vintage colnago always has a significant pricetag. The price of the nuovo record spare parts alone is close to 4000$ but this type of bike is not for the people that love di 2, disc brakes and carbon frames. It is for the collector before all. A nice high end steel frame made in the US by a reknown framebuilder with high end tubing and ultegra will be ahead 6000$ unless you want something mass produced from the big brands you will find something within that budget.
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Way back when, Sears was selling three speeds made in Austria based on the English model that were the equivalent in quality of Raleigh's Sports, except the rear hubs were a little better, because they were made on newer machinery to the SA design. A benefit of rebuilding Austria after WW2.
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Selling American families a Corvair followed by a Vega created lots of Toyota-for-life buyers.
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03-26-24, 03:44 PM
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This is at a LBS near me. I might have to stop by just to see if they have it on display. In my area, this is the shop you go to for high-end Euro bikes...but that's nutty.EDIT: Velo Pasadena might be reaching a bit too far with their pricing. I found this bike for a bargain price... https://www.racycles.com/colnago/col...200-bike-27938
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EDIT: I see it's marked "FRAGILE" -
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Nope - weight trumps everything. When riding in a pack, the weight penalty of a heavy bike, and especially heavy wheels will shed you off the back. Then you can be aero as a bullet, but you are not going to be able to reconnect.
When you are sheltered in the pack, your super aero bike might save you a handful of watts, but then you're coasting along at 25 mph expending what? 100 watts total? Joking with your pals about the movie you saw last night and eating a energy bar...
When you are sheltered in the pack, your super aero bike might save you a handful of watts, but then you're coasting along at 25 mph expending what? 100 watts total? Joking with your pals about the movie you saw last night and eating a energy bar...
I can't understand why you think a few grams matters so much on flat ground. I have seen other heavy men just slay on the flats.
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So you're just cruising along, sucking wheel joking and snacking @100 watts, but if your wheels were a few grams heavier you would be spat out the back, never to see the group again. Does that mean 100 watts is all you can muster? How much weight are we talking about? If your bike was 2 pounds heavier? 5 pounds? What is the amount it would take for you to be unable to hang with your group?
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Friend who used to ride with our club was about 250 pounds. He had a steel bike with clip on aero bars. This guy was an absolute ox on flat ground. He would pull the group for miles and miles. I don't think even several pounds could have made any difference to him. Probably 275-280 pounds all up and there wasn't a skinny climber on a 15 pound bike who could drop him on the flats.
I can't understand why you think a few grams matters so much on flat ground. I have seen other heavy men just slay on the flats.
I can't understand why you think a few grams matters so much on flat ground. I have seen other heavy men just slay on the flats.
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Quite the juxtaposition.
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Rode one way back then in 2002 ,I felt that with the precisa fork it was heavier than my old raleigh in 753 , yet the paint was truely incredible and the dura ace 7700 was top notch but for me it wasn't the lightest steel frame. Still a legendary bike.
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This is their additional "annex" showroom, including a vintage room...
The variety in the background of the foam-wrapped Colnago pic doesn't surprise me at all.
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I love a good bike shop!
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I do too but that shop wants 80,000 dollarydoos for a Colnago that is wrapped which has nothing that special on it 12k for a Dura Ace Di2 is about right heck 15k for some of the fancier bits and a little bit of gold and a pager. The top end C68 on Colnago's Brit site is about 13,000 Wingo King-o fun bucks which is a little under 16,000 dollarydoos and beyond a little more gold and maybe some minor negligible parts differences I don't see basically 64k more for that other thing.
A shop that crazy might look cool but they are on something.
A shop that crazy might look cool but they are on something.
03-27-24, 05:27 PM
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So you're just cruising along, sucking wheel joking and snacking @100 watts, but if your wheels were a few grams heavier you would be spat out the back, never to see the group again. Does that mean 100 watts is all you can muster? How much weight are we talking about? If your bike was 2 pounds heavier? 5 pounds? What is the amount it would take for you to be unable to hang with your group?
The thing that shells you off the back are the hard climbs and repeated fast accelerations out of corners. There aero doesn't matter either, whereas weight, particularly wheel rotating weight is everything. How much weight matters - you tell me. When you desperately clinging onto a wheel giving it everything you have, then grams can make all the difference. Everyone here should know the panic of seeing the wheel ahead of you slowly drift away, with the knowledge that if the gap grows to 10 feet, you're done for the day.
If the arbitrary UCI weight limit were to be lifted, pro disc brake road bikes would disappear overnight.
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Apparently cyclists in a pack are the spherical cows in a vacuum.
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