Dave Scott Centurion Ironman?
12-10-23, 02:42 PM
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What info are you looking for? They are generally well regarded around here. Classic 80's paint jobs. The "Master" models had 600/Ultegra. The "Expert" models had 105. Most, if not all? had Tange tubing for the frames. Plenty of threads here cover these bikes, old Centurion catalogs are available online.
12-10-23, 03:51 PM
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What info are you looking for? They are generally well regarded around here. Classic 80's paint jobs. The "Master" models had 600/Ultegra. The "Expert" models had 105. Most, if not all? had Tange tubing for the frames. Plenty of threads here cover these bikes, old Centurion catalogs are available online.
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I don't ride anymore, but this is one I'd like a kaputt frame of hanging on my wall.
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Rather timely .... https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...keted-tri.html
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I saw one on one of our monthly C&V rides, and decided I wanted one. Then one in my size popped up on Craigs List, for what seemed a reasonable price. Mine's a 1985, which I've kept in as close to original spec as possible. That said, I think it would be really nice with updated kit. It's comfy, fast, looks good, and yes, is made of Tange steel.
It's 6-speed, so, yeah, 126mm rear spacing. Maybe all of the Ironman models would be 126. But apparently cold setting to 130 is straightforward and shouldn't affect the durability of the frame. Just have it done by somebody who knows what they're doing, so that the dropouts stay aligned and all.
It's 6-speed, so, yeah, 126mm rear spacing. Maybe all of the Ironman models would be 126. But apparently cold setting to 130 is straightforward and shouldn't affect the durability of the frame. Just have it done by somebody who knows what they're doing, so that the dropouts stay aligned and all.
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Rather timely .... https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...keted-tri.html
Just as a fun bit of history.
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Decent if uninspiring frame with road geometry despite it's namesake....
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And it was a Tange 1 frame...pretty light for that time.
Yeah it isnt anything like what we think of for a tri bike now, but it was a popular bike with triathletes at the time.
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Here is the other Ironman thread that you want to check out. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...on-thread.html
12-11-23, 11:29 AM
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what other geometry should it have had at the time? Tri bikes were road bikes back then. I am no historian, but have read that qr released the first major/mass tri bike in '89 and from there, design moved drastically away from typical road geometry.
And it was a tange 1 frame...pretty light for that time.
Yeah it isnt anything like what we think of for a tri bike now, but it was a popular bike with triathletes at the time.
And it was a tange 1 frame...pretty light for that time.
Yeah it isnt anything like what we think of for a tri bike now, but it was a popular bike with triathletes at the time.
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What other geometry should it have had at the time? Tri bikes were road bikes back then. I am no historian, but have read that QR released the first major/mass Tri bike in '89 and from there, design moved drastically away from typical road geometry.
And it was a Tange 1 frame...pretty light for that time.
Yeah it isnt anything like what we think of for a tri bike now, but it was a popular bike with triathletes at the time.
And it was a Tange 1 frame...pretty light for that time.
Yeah it isnt anything like what we think of for a tri bike now, but it was a popular bike with triathletes at the time.
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Were they riding those in triathlons? Because watching video from the 1989 Ironman championship, they all look like standard roadbike format with a variety of aerobars, and certainly not Funny Bikes.
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What about in '87?
At that point in time, from what I have seen, 650c front wheel bikes with disc rear wheels were ridden by pros in time trials, like at the TDF.
I don't associate that to how most triathletes rode or owned.
I mention those years because those were popular years for the Centurion Ironman bike, the Miyata 912, and other tri branded bikes from Peugeot, Nishiki, Schwinn, Raleigh, and many more.
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12-16-23, 07:24 AM
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My point being that the Dave Scott Centurion Ironman (or wahtever it's official name was) was a repainted exiisting Centurion road frame marketed to triatheletes (that spelling can't be right, but since lazy is my point here...), at a time when bikes specifically designed for time trialing had existed for several years. I did a few tris back then, and did fairly well. Does anyone remember the Cinelli LA 84 bars?...
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My point being that the Dave Scott Centurion Ironman (or wahtever it's official name was) was a repainted exiisting Centurion road frame marketed to triatheletes (that spelling can't be right, but since lazy is my point here...), at a time when bikes specifically designed for time trialing had existed for several years. I did a few tris back then, and did fairly well. Does anyone remember the Cinelli LA 84 bars?...
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