New Moulton Cone!
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New Moulton Cone!
https://www.moultonbicycles.co.uk/models/CONE-SE.html
Looks nice i just hope its not silly money.
Looks nice i just hope its not silly money.
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Whoops! It's Cone, not "clone".
I thought this was a "clone" when I read the title of the post. And then I noticed the link is for Moulton, and I knew by then that they are not going to be making any "clones" or "knock offs" of their own bikes, that I realized my misinterpretation. Shows how much attention I pay now a days.
Anyway, it looks like a beautiful bike but we all know that anything Moulton, is not going to be affordable for us mere mortals.
Anyway, it looks like a beautiful bike but we all know that anything Moulton, is not going to be affordable for us mere mortals.
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From a quick glance I don't see how this is different from a TSR.
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Looks to me like the tie-in is the color scheme. And not much more.
Made to mimic the old Mini as its posed with on their own website.
(Im not saying it isnt attractive mind you)
Per the Moulton website’s “star system” of affordability, it looks to be among their most affordable offerings....same star rating as the Grand Union model. Id sooner have the Cone vs. Grand Union...but Id be delighted with either.
Made to mimic the old Mini as its posed with on their own website.
(Im not saying it isnt attractive mind you)
Per the Moulton website’s “star system” of affordability, it looks to be among their most affordable offerings....same star rating as the Grand Union model. Id sooner have the Cone vs. Grand Union...but Id be delighted with either.
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Found out today its going to be under 2k so a nice sst frame with 9 speeds but has mount for front derrailleur on already for future upgrading, i wanted an sst but this opens up a better option for a lot cheaper.
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Very cool bikes...I love the frames...the tsr with an Alfine 8 speed looks great but I thought the brakes could be a little better quality
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Apparently it's an SST with more budget components, so is far superior to a TSR. The TSR's painted steel dropouts rust badly and then make an awful surface for the friction washers to run on, and the rear pivot is undersized and offset. The SST fixed these issues. Why Moulton continue to sell the TSR is a mystery.
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Well i just ordered this shop ex demo bike, no mudguards but will get them when back in stock, ordered a matching day rack too, same price or less than what some are asking for second hand for TSR'S and even APB'S are silly money so getting essentially an SST with TSR +9 spec so its a no brainer, my first modern Moulton being the Cone model in ferrari red, its gorgeous.
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For some reason, Moulton usually has the least compelling "special editions" of bikes, whereas Brompton has actually done a pretty decent job lately with that. Lack of creativity?
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I think that the reason is that the Brompton bikes are affordable but Brompton had no high end bikes (before the T-line) the "special editions" were higher end more expensive "dream bikes".
For Moulton, its the opposite, Moulton has a lot of beautiful high end dream bikes, no need to make high end "special editions", but these high end bikes are too expensive for most customers (the first "real" Moulton made in Bradford-on-Avon, the Jubilee, starts at 4600GBP).
The low end Moulton, the TSR, are not really attractive.
The goal of the "special editions" is to try to have more attractive affordable bikes.
For Moulton, its the opposite, Moulton has a lot of beautiful high end dream bikes, no need to make high end "special editions", but these high end bikes are too expensive for most customers (the first "real" Moulton made in Bradford-on-Avon, the Jubilee, starts at 4600GBP).
The low end Moulton, the TSR, are not really attractive.
The goal of the "special editions" is to try to have more attractive affordable bikes.
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Its an SST. Frame with TSR 9+ spec, ex demo bike minus mudguards, tiny chip near the frame hinge which can be touched up, i ordered it with a day rack painted to match the bike, Ł1850 all in delivered, looks wise its better than any equivalent Brompton for the price not that i need a folder as i have a Xootr already, and a series 2 Moulton Major and a Moulton mk3 in bits to build next, i ride for pleasure only so its specs are more than adequate for my needs.
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Its an SST. Frame with TSR 9+ spec, ex demo bike minus mudguards, tiny chip near the frame hinge which can be touched up, i ordered it with a day rack painted to match the bike, Ł1850 all in delivered, looks wise its better than any equivalent Brompton for the price not that i need a folder as i have a Xootr already, and a series 2 Moulton Major and a Moulton mk3 in bits to build next, i ride for pleasure only so its specs are more than adequate for my needs.
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You can find the full specs on https://www.traditionalcycleshop.co....w-moulton-cone
Transmission is indeed low en Sunrace crankset and SRAM derailleur. But its easy to find good deals online for something better.
Transmission is indeed low en Sunrace crankset and SRAM derailleur. But its easy to find good deals online for something better.
CONE Specification
Colours: Riveria Blue or Ferrari Red
Headset: Tange Seiki RDC 1" sealed
Front hub: VP 28h polished alloy
Rear hub: VP 28h polished alloy
Spokes: Stainless steel 14g
Rims: Double wall alloy semi-aero Black/CNC
Tyres: Schwalbe Durano 28-406
Tubes: Schwalbe 20" presta
Crankset: Sunrace 54t (two guards)
Bottom bracket: Sealed cartridge
Brake levers: Tektro FL750
Brakes: Tektro R539 DP 57 calliper
Gear lever: SRAM 9 Trigger
Rear mech: SRAM X7 short cage
Cassette: SRAM PG950 11-32
Chain: Wippermann Connex
Pedals: None supplied
Seatpost: 31.6 forged Aluminium, layback head
Saddle: Sella Italia Milano Flite Bonnie Black Ti136
Handlebar stem: Raised adjustable alloy 31.8
Handlebar: Flat AL7075 Silver
Handlebar grips: Sella Italia Epica Ergo Black Leather
Gear range (inches): 31-91"
Frame size: Suitable for inside leg 27-36"
Weight (no pedals): 11.2kg
Mudguards: Moulton Alloy
Colours: Riveria Blue or Ferrari Red
Headset: Tange Seiki RDC 1" sealed
Front hub: VP 28h polished alloy
Rear hub: VP 28h polished alloy
Spokes: Stainless steel 14g
Rims: Double wall alloy semi-aero Black/CNC
Tyres: Schwalbe Durano 28-406
Tubes: Schwalbe 20" presta
Crankset: Sunrace 54t (two guards)
Bottom bracket: Sealed cartridge
Brake levers: Tektro FL750
Brakes: Tektro R539 DP 57 calliper
Gear lever: SRAM 9 Trigger
Rear mech: SRAM X7 short cage
Cassette: SRAM PG950 11-32
Chain: Wippermann Connex
Pedals: None supplied
Seatpost: 31.6 forged Aluminium, layback head
Saddle: Sella Italia Milano Flite Bonnie Black Ti136
Handlebar stem: Raised adjustable alloy 31.8
Handlebar: Flat AL7075 Silver
Handlebar grips: Sella Italia Epica Ergo Black Leather
Gear range (inches): 31-91"
Frame size: Suitable for inside leg 27-36"
Weight (no pedals): 11.2kg
Mudguards: Moulton Alloy
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Well, they did the 'Grand Union Special' to celebrate the marriage of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. After that, I think any bike company would be a little shy about 'specials'.
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Agreed,Agree Grand Union was fugly but only as a paint scheme, the lower spec bikes are Pashley built basic stuff, the AM stuff at the Moulton factory and more high end, having spindly frames there is not much you can do paint wise so limited to what looks good, a plain single colour is usually nice enough and bikes easy enough to upgrade yourself whenever you like, cannot compare to a Brompton as does not fold but everything else is much nicer, not those silly cables all over and weird gearing set up thats limited, these too get modded to suit rider with way more custom options and mass produced unlike the Moulton, you see Bromptons all over, very rare you see a Moulton, i like to stand out a bit and have the added comfort of full suspension being a big chap, can buy a AM jubilee for the price of a T line, its a no brainer if the fold is not needed.
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Must say i love this bike, no doubt some bits can be upgraded in time and already fitted a better seat, more mods to come when funds allow, as still need to start my mk3 build.
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