Would You Ride Tires You Can't Remove on the Road?
09-27-21, 01:32 PM
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The most ornery bead-locked tires that I've had were on some Giant Gavia SLRs on Reynolds Assault SLGs (hooked), so this was a little earlier in the road tubeless game, when tire manufacturers were cheating to the small side and rim manufacturers were cheating to the big side. I don't recall any difficultly mounting the tires (getting them over the edges of the rims), but I do recall that they were a ***** to seat, which makes sense in retrospect.
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09-27-21, 01:41 PM
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Learn how to break the bead - with gloves, you shouldn't have any problems (without gloves, you'll probably get some wicked blisters).
Stand the wheel in front of you, use your upper body weight and grip/twist the tire carcass away from you, one hand at a time, like you're rolling up a newspaper. The bead closest to you will pull away, in to the middle of the rim bed. If it doesn't break within a 5-10 seconds, try breaking it at a different spot.
Stand the wheel in front of you, use your upper body weight and grip/twist the tire carcass away from you, one hand at a time, like you're rolling up a newspaper. The bead closest to you will pull away, in to the middle of the rim bed. If it doesn't break within a 5-10 seconds, try breaking it at a different spot.
True. If you're unable to get the bead unseated, no tool is going to help. I will say that in years of riding tubeless, the only beads I've had trouble unseating are on fat bikes (which have extraordinarily tight beads on my rims). I've had to put the wheel on the ground and step on the sidewalls of the tires to get the bead unseated on my fatbike...
09-27-21, 01:42 PM
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The vast majority of hooked tubeless tires also have the bead retention humps (AFAIK, that's a recommended standard, now); IOW, hookless doesn't inherently make beadlock more of an issue. If anything, I would suspect that hookless rims, coming later in the game, will generally be more complaint to diameter and bead hump standards and have an easier time with these kinds of issues.
09-27-21, 02:27 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback. I've got another set I'll put on. Gave it another try, but sure can't get the bead broken with road tools. They mount up easy enough, no tools needed for that.
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Anyone tried sucking on the valve to break the tire bead? Please report back if you find this works.
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I'm an old man, someone younger is gonna have to try that...
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Picked up a Cervelo Caledonia-5, which has almost new tubeless-ready Reserve wheels and Vittoria Rubino pro tires, which currently have tubes in them. Problem is the tires are nearly impossible to get off the rim. Nearly impossible unless you have a bench vise handy, then it's just really difficult. Roadside, not a chance.
I could set them up tubeless, but am still leery of not being able to get a tube in them roadside, if needed. Should I just toss them, or would you ride with them tubeless?
I could set them up tubeless, but am still leery of not being able to get a tube in them roadside, if needed. Should I just toss them, or would you ride with them tubeless?
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09-28-21, 10:18 AM
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