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Did this pop up on anybody else's Google feed?
For sale: an unusual Motoconfort twin engine motorcycle
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Grand record just came home.
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Mrs. ascherer's Grand Jubile.
Mods: 700c VO wheels with 1st gen Dura Ace high-flange hubs, 14-32 freewheel, Rene Herse tires, Tektro levers and interrupters for small hands, Terry Liberator, Waxwing wedge. I may have mounted a Weinmann 750 in the back, or it may have had it. I don't recall. In any event, it's super smooth and she loves riding this bike.
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Mods: 700c VO wheels with 1st gen Dura Ace high-flange hubs, 14-32 freewheel, Rene Herse tires, Tektro levers and interrupters for small hands, Terry Liberator, Waxwing wedge. I may have mounted a Weinmann 750 in the back, or it may have had it. I don't recall. In any event, it's super smooth and she loves riding this bike.
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Mrs. ascherer's Grand Jubile.
Mods: 700c VO wheels with 1st gen Dura Ace high-flange hubs, 14-32 freewheel, Rene Herse tires, Tektro levers and interrupters for small hands, Terry Liberator, Waxwing wedge. I may have mounted a Weinmann 750 in the back, or it may have had it. I don't recall. In any event, it's super smooth and she loves riding this bike.
Gran Jubile
Mods: 700c VO wheels with 1st gen Dura Ace high-flange hubs, 14-32 freewheel, Rene Herse tires, Tektro levers and interrupters for small hands, Terry Liberator, Waxwing wedge. I may have mounted a Weinmann 750 in the back, or it may have had it. I don't recall. In any event, it's super smooth and she loves riding this bike.
Gran Jubile
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Wish I could take some credit but it's all back in France. I agree with you, this is one classy-looking bike.
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Mrs. ascherer's Grand Jubile.
Mods: 700c VO wheels with 1st gen Dura Ace high-flange hubs, 14-32 freewheel, Rene Herse tires, Tektro levers and interrupters for small hands, Terry Liberator, Waxwing wedge. I may have mounted a Weinmann 750 in the back, or it may have had it. I don't recall. In any event, it's super smooth and she loves riding this bike.
Gran Jubile
Mods: 700c VO wheels with 1st gen Dura Ace high-flange hubs, 14-32 freewheel, Rene Herse tires, Tektro levers and interrupters for small hands, Terry Liberator, Waxwing wedge. I may have mounted a Weinmann 750 in the back, or it may have had it. I don't recall. In any event, it's super smooth and she loves riding this bike.
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Originally Posted by motogeek;[url=tel:22572483
22572483[/url]]How the heck do you get that long cage Jubilee to work on a 32 tooth freewheel? About the biggest they're rated at is a 28 tooth. Beautiful bike tho.
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Not a restored French beauty but my gas-pipe college commuter is now the grocery getter. Bought new in 81 and the only remaining original parts are the FD and the headset.
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Hi. I'm new to this forum and bike restoration in-general. I pulled my dad's 1982 (I think) Jubile Sport out of his garage last weekend. Surprisingly, it's in pretty good shape for being 40 years old. There are some rust spots and one of the Motobecane stickers is in bad shape. I don't even know where to start or what questions to ask. Things that come to mind are how to fix the rust spots, do I think about repainting the bike or is having the original color important? What's the best way to clean up the components? Where to buy replacement decals? I'd like to build up a gravel bike, but I don't know if this would even be an option. Any help for a newbie would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi. I'm new to this forum and bike restoration in-general. I pulled my dad's 1982 (I think) Jubile Sport out of his garage last weekend. Surprisingly, it's in pretty good shape for being 40 years old. There are some rust spots and one of the Motobecane stickers is in bad shape. I don't even know where to start or what questions to ask. Things that come to mind are how to fix the rust spots, do I think about repainting the bike or is having the original color important? What's the best way to clean up the components? Where to buy replacement decals? I'd like to build up a gravel bike, but I don't know if this would even be an option. Any help for a newbie would be greatly appreciated.
You're in for some fun getting the bike back on the road...then some real fun riding.
There are great details on the following work items all through Bikeforums and Youtube.
Here's my thoughts; work on the critical issues before the cosmetic. Stop the rusting by hitting the spots with some Naval Jelly or other rust remover and a medium scotch brite pad. I would replace those old dried up brake pads. Kool Stop is a very good brand. Tires are probably 27", they will say the size on the sidewall, (not the more common 700c) and also probably need replacing. Hate saying it, but good tires make a huge impact on comfort and speed and they cost. A lot of older bikes won't fit the wider (32mm wide) gravel tires, but your's might. Measure first and leave ~3mm clearance on each side. by now you're ready to ride. The old cables and housing may function but usually they need replacing too, they really affect shifting.
Cosmetics - A complete re-paint is non-trivial. I'd look for Testors or other model paint to do touch ups. Velocals.com is a good source for decals.
Enjoy the process and hurray for old guy's garages!
BT
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Good advice above, just will add: For rust, Oxalic acid is the active ingredient in Naval Jelly, Wood Bleach etc. Best buy is in crystal form at your Pharmacy, or online so can be mixed as needed, have also used electrolysis in a washing soda solution on old tools/machinery. Google rust removal.. Paint is only original once, so try to preserve it by cleaning,touchup and polishing.. For Decals, I like Cyclomondo https://www.cyclomondo.net/ Very wide selection, high quality, and lthough he's far away in Australia, Greg Softley is quick to respond via e-mail, & is a vintage bike enthusiast. Had what I needed every time & sells many single decals so you aren't locked in to buying a whole set you may not need. Don
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Thanks BT and ollo_ollo, I will start with your suggestions in mind.
I was also wondering about plastic/pleather handle bar wrap. It's looks to be in good shape, but thinking bar tape might be better. I just don't know if people like to keep as much original as possible or not.
I was also wondering about plastic/pleather handle bar wrap. It's looks to be in good shape, but thinking bar tape might be better. I just don't know if people like to keep as much original as possible or not.
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Chad, bar tape is a consumable, regularly changed when worn.
You should start your own project thread in the Classic and Vintage section. Your questions will get a broader audience and folks all enjoy the issues and photos of ANY bike project.
You should start your own project thread in the Classic and Vintage section. Your questions will get a broader audience and folks all enjoy the issues and photos of ANY bike project.
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I can't believe there has been a "show me your Motobecane thread" that I haven't posted in. Well, that's easily fixed and what I've done may help @chadaustin with any concerns about keeping things original. I must admit I've long since gone over to the dark side in this regard, but with anything less than a provably Tour de France ridden Le Champion, I think there should be nothing holding you back from doing whatever makes you happy with a Motobecane.
Here's what made me happy (and still does every time I ride it) with my 1972 Motobecane Grand Record.
As found ($20, talked down from an asking price of $30 because the seatpost was stuck)
After some minor Gugificazione, powder coating (main color chosen to match the fenders), and a 10-speed Campagnolo drivetrain upgrade
Here's what made me happy (and still does) with my 1975 Motobecane Grand Jubilé
As found (purchased from @gugie's Atelier stock) but with some test fit components hung on it
After extensive Gugificazione, powder coating, and a 10-speed Campgnolo drivetrain upgrade
So, yeah, not quite original
BTW, I got my decals from velocals.com
Here's what made me happy (and still does every time I ride it) with my 1972 Motobecane Grand Record.
As found ($20, talked down from an asking price of $30 because the seatpost was stuck)
After some minor Gugificazione, powder coating (main color chosen to match the fenders), and a 10-speed Campagnolo drivetrain upgrade
Here's what made me happy (and still does) with my 1975 Motobecane Grand Jubilé
As found (purchased from @gugie's Atelier stock) but with some test fit components hung on it
After extensive Gugificazione, powder coating, and a 10-speed Campgnolo drivetrain upgrade
So, yeah, not quite original
BTW, I got my decals from velocals.com
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I can't believe there has been a "show me your Motobecane thread" that I haven't posted in. Well, that's easily fixed and what I've done may help @chadaustin with any concerns about keeping things original. I must admit I've long since gone over to the dark side in this regard, but with anything less than a provably Tour de France ridden Le Champion, I think there should be nothing holding you back from doing whatever makes you happy with a Motobecane.
Here's what made me happy (and still does every time I ride it) with my 1972 Motobecane Grand Record.
As found ($20, talked down from an asking price of $30 because the seatpost was stuck)
After some minor Gugificazione, powder coating (main color chosen to match the fenders), and a 10-speed Campagnolo drivetrain upgrade
Here's what made me happy (and still does) with my 1975 Motobecane Grand Jubilé
As found (purchased from @gugie's Atelier stock) but with some test fit components hung on it
After extensive Gugificazione, powder coating, and a 10-speed Campgnolo drivetrain upgrade
So, yeah, not quite original
BTW, I got my decals from velocals.com
Here's what made me happy (and still does every time I ride it) with my 1972 Motobecane Grand Record.
As found ($20, talked down from an asking price of $30 because the seatpost was stuck)
After some minor Gugificazione, powder coating (main color chosen to match the fenders), and a 10-speed Campagnolo drivetrain upgrade
Here's what made me happy (and still does) with my 1975 Motobecane Grand Jubilé
As found (purchased from @gugie's Atelier stock) but with some test fit components hung on it
After extensive Gugificazione, powder coating, and a 10-speed Campgnolo drivetrain upgrade
So, yeah, not quite original
BTW, I got my decals from velocals.com
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Mods: 700c VO wheels with 1st gen Dura Ace high-flange hubs, 14-32 freewheel, Rene Herse tires, Tektro levers and interrupters for small hands, Terry Liberator, Waxwing wedge. I may have mounted a Weinmann 750 in the back, or it may have had it. I don't recall. In any event, it's super smooth and she loves riding this bike.
Gran Jubile
Mods: 700c VO wheels with 1st gen Dura Ace high-flange hubs, 14-32 freewheel, Rene Herse tires, Tektro levers and interrupters for small hands, Terry Liberator, Waxwing wedge. I may have mounted a Weinmann 750 in the back, or it may have had it. I don't recall. In any event, it's super smooth and she loves riding this bike.
Gran Jubile
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Great idea, thanks. Andy, thanks for sharing photos of your bikes and the encouragement to do what makes me happy.
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'75 Grand Jubile, I swapped out the long cage Jubilee RD for a Huret Duopar and larger rear sprockets to give me a wider range
Mint 74 Grand Record. This beautiful bike looks like it just rolled off the show room floor.
My wife's matching Grand Jubile mixte
'75 Grand Record that some previous owner put "safety levers" on. Just haven't taken the time to swap them out with something else yet
'73 Le Champion I bought from original owner from near Lake Tahoe. He used to race on it and also did a crosss country tour on it. Has marks on stays from a Pletcher-type rear rack. Plenty of patia on this old thoroughbred
'75 Grand Record that I had Gugie braze on some cantilever studs. I've accumulated nearly all the pieces I need to create an all-French randonneur bike, just trying to decide on paint
'72 Grand Record. Totally (except pedals) Campy, including hard to find French Campy parts (HS, BB,seat post.)
So here is my collection of Motobecanes. I've been trying to get these all posted on one site for quite a few years, finally got it accomplished. Everything from daily drivers to show pieces. Of all of them probably my favorite is the '75 Grand Jubile
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'75 Grand Jubile, I swapped out the long cage Jubilee RD for a Huret Duopar and larger rear sprockets to give me a wider range
Mint 74 Grand Record. This beautiful bike looks like it just rolled off the show room floor.
My wife's matching Grand Jubile mixte
'75 Grand Record that some previous owner put "safety levers" on. Just haven't taken the time to swap them out with something else yet
'73 Le Champion I bought from original owner from near Lake Tahoe. He used to race on it and also did a crosss country tour on it. Has marks on stays from a Pletcher-type rear rack. Plenty of patia on this old thoroughbred
'75 Grand Record that I had Gugie braze on some cantilever studs. I've accumulated nearly all the pieces I need to create an all-French randonneur bike, just trying to decide on paint
'72 Grand Record. Totally (except pedals) Campy, including hard to find French Campy parts (HS, BB,seat post.)
So here is my collection of Motobecanes. I've been trying to get these all posted on one site for quite a few years, finally got it accomplished. Everything from daily drivers to show pieces. Of all of them probably my favorite is the '75 Grand Jubile
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Here is my unknown model 50's randonneur as found, poorly painted in gold with bent fork and Peugeot decals:
It's missing both lights and dynamo a period correct leather seat new tires cables pads grease and a pump
Clearly a Motobecane despite the Peugeot decals The fork is bent as well as the down tube which is exaggerated by the picture. I was only able to straighten the fork stearer tube
And here is the bike now:
The fenders are probably not original but they are in decent condition. The leather seat is a period correct Motobecane. I changed all spokes and cables, repacked all bearings with fresh grease and new balls, but I need to source a pump in the correct length. Bother lights are LED equiped soubitez and radio powered by a dynamo, more powerful than old bulbs.
The racks were the only part kept gold.
For the frame, I went back to bare metal, applied stencils and cold blue treatment before varnish.
Headtube
Downtube
It's a sweet and comfy ride, and I love the derailleurs, the front one is a "suicide" one operated by a lever rather than a cable, the rear one is an early Huret tourist compact, cable operated that works in the opposite direction compared to modern ones, more tension to move the chain down to smaller cogs.
I've also restored an interclub tandem, but this one being too tall for me to ride is used by the younger couple in the house and they are loving it.
It's missing both lights and dynamo a period correct leather seat new tires cables pads grease and a pump
Clearly a Motobecane despite the Peugeot decals The fork is bent as well as the down tube which is exaggerated by the picture. I was only able to straighten the fork stearer tube
And here is the bike now:
The fenders are probably not original but they are in decent condition. The leather seat is a period correct Motobecane. I changed all spokes and cables, repacked all bearings with fresh grease and new balls, but I need to source a pump in the correct length. Bother lights are LED equiped soubitez and radio powered by a dynamo, more powerful than old bulbs.
The racks were the only part kept gold.
For the frame, I went back to bare metal, applied stencils and cold blue treatment before varnish.
Headtube
Downtube
It's a sweet and comfy ride, and I love the derailleurs, the front one is a "suicide" one operated by a lever rather than a cable, the rear one is an early Huret tourist compact, cable operated that works in the opposite direction compared to modern ones, more tension to move the chain down to smaller cogs.
I've also restored an interclub tandem, but this one being too tall for me to ride is used by the younger couple in the house and they are loving it.
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