How many BF posters have cracked a bike frame?
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None of the frames I broke were crashed. The first one did suffer a hard landing but the other 3 had no abuse. Most of the people I know who have cracked frames did not crash those frames.
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I have a 72 Raleigh Sports (3 speed). I don't ride it all that much (hard to do hills on a 3 speed) and the frame is fine. I had a 97 or 98 Bianchi Volpe. In 2011 or 2012 I was riding it, and making a right turn, I heard a "sproing" and then the handling became squirrelly. I thought I had broken a spoke. With only a half mile to get home, I kept going. Closer inspection showed the right chain stay had broken just in front of the dropout. So I got a 2012 Trek 520. I was run off the road, hit a curb straight on and did a face plant. The only damage was to the fork which was bent so the front wheel overlapped the down tube. A new fork fixed that one and I still have it. (It took some work by a plastic surgeon to fix my nose.) I also bought another 520 (in 2020), kind of as a reward for surviving the crash. While it was still under warranty, the little piece of the seat tube that's above the top tube and has the clamp for the seat post broke completely off (so you could just lift the seat off the bike). The bike had never been crashed or abused in any way. Since it was still under warranty, Trek replaced the frame and the bike shop where I bought it transferred all the components.
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Some frames have defects. They warrantied it (replaced it with an SLX), so I guess that means it was one of them.
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Took a car to crack my frame.... and the bike frame too.
Pretty sure neither is designed for that kind of stress.
Never broke on the trails tho.
(cursed statement if I ever saw one)
Pretty sure neither is designed for that kind of stress.
Never broke on the trails tho.
(cursed statement if I ever saw one)
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Does the steer tube count? I guess that’s not technically part of the frame. Last year I hit a bump and cracked the aluminum steer tube on my vintage Vitus.
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Let's see:
Lambert fork - yup, that fork.
Peugeot UO-8 - chainstay broke behind the bridge at mile 22,000 and after dozens of crashes. Bike was bent and re-bent many times and just tired out. (Rode it home.)
Fuji Pro - BB shell at the seatstay. A known defect in that run of bikes. Fuji gave me a hand built replacement! (In a race. Rode it to the finish.)
Cheap hi-ten Sekine - fork blade midway, just above the LowRider U-bolt clamp. No clue why. I rode it home.
TiCycles ti fix gear (my avatar photo) - fork blades (both) cracked at the crown. (A combination of decisions adding up to a metallurgy no-no. A minimal, very light fork crown with no scalloping - my call. Nickle plating a Columbus SL fork and not heat treating it after. (Dave Levy happened on the SL and used it without a cost upgrade. I was thinking 531 but hardly complained! Plater knew you HAD to heat treat nickle plated hi-strength steels and said nothing. It would have been an additional $60 which I would have coughed up with no hesitation. Cracks showed up at 8000 miles. I had an angel that day.)
Sport Reynolds 501 Peugeot - had been hit hard by a car. Week 3 I saw cracks in both chainstays behind the bridge. Did a CF wrap that stiffened the BB beyond anything Peugeot ever made. Retired the bike at 8000 miles because I don't know what other damage it might have.
Lambert fork - yup, that fork.
Peugeot UO-8 - chainstay broke behind the bridge at mile 22,000 and after dozens of crashes. Bike was bent and re-bent many times and just tired out. (Rode it home.)
Fuji Pro - BB shell at the seatstay. A known defect in that run of bikes. Fuji gave me a hand built replacement! (In a race. Rode it to the finish.)
Cheap hi-ten Sekine - fork blade midway, just above the LowRider U-bolt clamp. No clue why. I rode it home.
TiCycles ti fix gear (my avatar photo) - fork blades (both) cracked at the crown. (A combination of decisions adding up to a metallurgy no-no. A minimal, very light fork crown with no scalloping - my call. Nickle plating a Columbus SL fork and not heat treating it after. (Dave Levy happened on the SL and used it without a cost upgrade. I was thinking 531 but hardly complained! Plater knew you HAD to heat treat nickle plated hi-strength steels and said nothing. It would have been an additional $60 which I would have coughed up with no hesitation. Cracks showed up at 8000 miles. I had an angel that day.)
Sport Reynolds 501 Peugeot - had been hit hard by a car. Week 3 I saw cracks in both chainstays behind the bridge. Did a CF wrap that stiffened the BB beyond anything Peugeot ever made. Retired the bike at 8000 miles because I don't know what other damage it might have.
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Thanks all. In reading here, it seems that the unfortunate end of a frame (and other components) is a lot more common than I thought!
I don't feel so bad now. On the bright side, I now have room in my stable for fancy new rides
I don't feel so bad now. On the bright side, I now have room in my stable for fancy new rides
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I have neither the strength nor the crash probability to break a frame. Yes crash could happen, but I avoid them at all costs. So I've never damaged a bike frame in over 60 years of riding.
I did bend the front wheel of my first bike when I let my older brother ride it to school when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade with me on the front handlebars (remember that?) My foot went into the wheel and it got bent. My dad, as punishment (we weren't supposed to do that), made me ride the bike with the bent wheel for as long as I remember.
I think I might have broken a trike when I was 5. I remember my dad taking it with us to my grandparents' house one weekend and my grandpa brazing something to fix it. I put out a lot of wattage on that trike! Or, more likely, playing "bumper tag" with my brother on his trike.
I did bend the front wheel of my first bike when I let my older brother ride it to school when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade with me on the front handlebars (remember that?) My foot went into the wheel and it got bent. My dad, as punishment (we weren't supposed to do that), made me ride the bike with the bent wheel for as long as I remember.
I think I might have broken a trike when I was 5. I remember my dad taking it with us to my grandparents' house one weekend and my grandpa brazing something to fix it. I put out a lot of wattage on that trike! Or, more likely, playing "bumper tag" with my brother on his trike.
Crashes aren’t really a cause of frame breakage. I do have the crash probability as I crash with frightening regularity. I even crashed a bicycle into the side of a car long ago. That didn’t break the frame…bent the hell out of it but it didn’t break. I wouldn’t expect any bike to not be bent by running it into the side of a car but I really doubt that any frame would actually break during such an event.
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1974 Raleigh Grand Sports, 531 double butted main tubes. Down tube fatigue crack originating in the brazed joint between the down tube and head tube. There was an area of the interface between the lug and tubes which was not filled fully with braze metal, it looked like the crack originated there. Cracked in 1990 after quite a few miles; safe, slow failure mode with creaking sound and slow growing crack long before it got near wanting to fail fully.
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I had an aluminum Trek 7.3FX in daily commuter service for about 12 years that developed a crack in the seat tube near the bottom bracket. The way I found it was my rear rim brake was rubbing but only when I was applying higher power. I spent a couple of sessions straightening the rim but the rub-on-power wouldn’t go away. Careful inspection of the frame revealed the crack.
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I have a Mercier Formule in 971 that has cracked at the top/seat tube junction. I still have it and cannot bring myself to part with it. The only other bike that has cracked was a chopper in the late 70's I used to take over jumps. Not bad considering I have had 50+ bikes in 45 years of riding.
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1984 Bottecchia, down tube below lug. They were known to fail because of poor chroming methods. Bike Friday “dropout” at the seatstay cluster. So manufacturers and design defects. When I had my shop I saw some heinous failures mostly from abuse.
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1979 Schwinn Super LeTour - seat tube cracked about 1984. This was a hi ten steel frame that had taken me on self supported Atlanta to New Hampshire to Milwaukee trip with spouse in 1981. Schwinn gave me a double butted cro mo frame.
2007 RANS titanium V3 long wheelbase recumbent. I had ridden it since 2016 when I bought the the frame from a fellow who had got it from RANS as NOS not long before. In 2020 noticed both ‘seat stays’ cracked near where they connected to main tube. Not fixable. The frame became wall art.
2007 RANS titanium V3 long wheelbase recumbent. I had ridden it since 2016 when I bought the the frame from a fellow who had got it from RANS as NOS not long before. In 2020 noticed both ‘seat stays’ cracked near where they connected to main tube. Not fixable. The frame became wall art.
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My first Miyata 1000 (1987 I think?) had to be retired due to a cracked chainstay. It was a great bike and had served me well, but I think my decision to ride it through the winter was the cause of its doom.
It has since been replaced by a 1985 model, and my winter bike is now aluminium. Live and learn I guess.
It has since been replaced by a 1985 model, and my winter bike is now aluminium. Live and learn I guess.
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I've never broken a frame myself, but I've fixed a few that others have broken.
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Trek Domane. Not a crash. Operator error. I failed to properly seat it on a turbo. I mounted up, clipped in, and put power down. Right chain stay snapped just before the dropout. As I toppled over it also snapped the left chain stay. It was a negative experience.
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Did exactly the same thing to a carbon frame bike, the first time I used my new smart trainer. Right seat stay cracked just above the dropout. The bike still works on the trainer, but it's unusable on the road.
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Which goes to show that steel is real, but aluminum is a close second!
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