What is this?
09-03-17, 05:21 PM
#1
I'm good to go!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 14,992
Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020
Mentioned: 51 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6196 Post(s)
Liked 4,811 Times
in
3,319 Posts
What is this?
I've puzzled on this since I bought this '91 Schwinn Paramount frame several weeks ago. I thought I'd figure it out on my own, but so far have not.
This is on inside of the right back stay. About 4" up from the drop out. Nothing similar on the other stays.
This is on inside of the right back stay. About 4" up from the drop out. Nothing similar on the other stays.
09-03-17, 05:24 PM
#3
Semper Fi
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 12,942
Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1172 Post(s)
Liked 358 Times
in
241 Posts
That is a chain hanger, when you are removing the rear wheel the chain is placed on it to allow the cogs to slip out easier and not have the chain on the stay where it can mark up the finish.
Bill
Edit: jiangshi beat me to it, win some lose most
Bill
Edit: jiangshi beat me to it, win some lose most
__________________
Semper Fi, USMC, 1975-1977
I Can Do All Things Through Him, Who Gives Me Strength. Philippians 4:13
Semper Fi, USMC, 1975-1977
I Can Do All Things Through Him, Who Gives Me Strength. Philippians 4:13
09-03-17, 05:40 PM
#4
I'm good to go!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 14,992
Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020
Mentioned: 51 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6196 Post(s)
Liked 4,811 Times
in
3,319 Posts
Thanks..... I'd never have come up with that on my own.
Does it eliminate the cussing I've been doing when I'm hot and sweaty trying to get the wheel off to change a tube?
Does it eliminate the cussing I've been doing when I'm hot and sweaty trying to get the wheel off to change a tube?
09-03-17, 05:47 PM
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,489
Mentioned: 102 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1641 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 831 Times
in
540 Posts
For some reason, chain hangers on steel bikes seemed to have generally disappeared after the mid 80's......
Kinda cheap move by bike makers..... It was a much better/simpler approach to chain management than Campagnolo's Portacatena
Kinda cheap move by bike makers..... It was a much better/simpler approach to chain management than Campagnolo's Portacatena
__________________
72 Line Seeker
83 Davidson Signature
84 Peugeot PSV
84 Peugeot PY10FC
84 Gitane Tour de France.
85 Vitus Plus Carbone 7
86 ALAN Record Carbonio
86 Medici Aerodynamic (Project)
88 Pinarello Montello
89 Bottecchia Professional Chorus SL
95 Trek 5500 OCLV (Project)
72 Line Seeker
83 Davidson Signature
84 Peugeot PSV
84 Peugeot PY10FC
84 Gitane Tour de France.
85 Vitus Plus Carbone 7
86 ALAN Record Carbonio
86 Medici Aerodynamic (Project)
88 Pinarello Montello
89 Bottecchia Professional Chorus SL
95 Trek 5500 OCLV (Project)
09-03-17, 07:02 PM
#6
Old fart
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Appleton WI
Posts: 24,790
Bikes: Several, mostly not name brands.
Mentioned: 153 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3590 Post(s)
Liked 3,401 Times
in
1,935 Posts
But that doesn't explain why chain hangers on the seat stay pretty much disappeared after the mid 80s.
09-04-17, 04:05 AM
#7
What??? Only 2 wheels?
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Boston-ish, MA
Posts: 13,434
Bikes: 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PF10
Mentioned: 189 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1222 Post(s)
Liked 645 Times
in
232 Posts
About half my bikes have a chain hanger. I nere use it. I did a few times, deciced it was more trouble than not usinvg it. YMMV
__________________
Real cyclists use toe clips.
With great bikes comes great responsibility.
jimmuller
Real cyclists use toe clips.
With great bikes comes great responsibility.
jimmuller
09-04-17, 05:30 AM
#8
Semper Fi
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 12,942
Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1172 Post(s)
Liked 358 Times
in
241 Posts
, the cussing, sweating and grime are in the constitution,
I believe. Its a federal capital crime
not to go "Full Monty" when doing the wheel thing.
Or maybe its in the Bill of Rights.......
__________________
Semper Fi, USMC, 1975-1977
I Can Do All Things Through Him, Who Gives Me Strength. Philippians 4:13
Semper Fi, USMC, 1975-1977
I Can Do All Things Through Him, Who Gives Me Strength. Philippians 4:13
09-04-17, 02:05 PM
#9
SE Wis
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 10,516
Bikes: '68 Raleigh Sprite, '02 Raleigh C500, '84 Raleigh Gran Prix, '91 Trek 400, 2013 Novara Randonee, 1990 Trek 970
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2747 Post(s)
Liked 3,401 Times
in
2,058 Posts
On my Trek it's a little tab built into the drop out
09-04-17, 02:37 PM
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,489
Mentioned: 102 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1641 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 831 Times
in
540 Posts
Always used mine every time I take the rear wheel off, on a service stand, or when just transporting the bike in the back of my car. keeps the chain from getting all over the place messing up things next to it or messing up the chainstay and the rest of the frame....
The rear wheel comes on and off much easier too.
Can't figure put why one will not use it if it's on their bike....
The rear wheel comes on and off much easier too.
Can't figure put why one will not use it if it's on their bike....
__________________
72 Line Seeker
83 Davidson Signature
84 Peugeot PSV
84 Peugeot PY10FC
84 Gitane Tour de France.
85 Vitus Plus Carbone 7
86 ALAN Record Carbonio
86 Medici Aerodynamic (Project)
88 Pinarello Montello
89 Bottecchia Professional Chorus SL
95 Trek 5500 OCLV (Project)
72 Line Seeker
83 Davidson Signature
84 Peugeot PSV
84 Peugeot PY10FC
84 Gitane Tour de France.
85 Vitus Plus Carbone 7
86 ALAN Record Carbonio
86 Medici Aerodynamic (Project)
88 Pinarello Montello
89 Bottecchia Professional Chorus SL
95 Trek 5500 OCLV (Project)
09-04-17, 02:51 PM
#11
What??? Only 2 wheels?
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Boston-ish, MA
Posts: 13,434
Bikes: 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PF10
Mentioned: 189 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1222 Post(s)
Liked 645 Times
in
232 Posts
A fair question. When I pull the rear wheel off I shift to the smallest sprocket, loosen the skewer, pop the wheel forward in the DOs, then while lifting the bike pull the RD back by the parallelogram until the FW clears the guide pulley. The allows the wheel to fall free. Putting the wheel back in is pretty much the reverse.
Hooking the chain on the hanger requires that I get a hand greasy (I've tried moving it with a tire iron but I must be clumsy, and then the chain has more tension and less clearance.
The only real problem I usually have is the chain falling off the chain rings when I lay the bike down. I sometimes end up with a greasy hand anyway, but I'm I'm smart I don't.
Maybe I need to rethink my technique. But hey, I've had lots of practice!
Hooking the chain on the hanger requires that I get a hand greasy (I've tried moving it with a tire iron but I must be clumsy, and then the chain has more tension and less clearance.
The only real problem I usually have is the chain falling off the chain rings when I lay the bike down. I sometimes end up with a greasy hand anyway, but I'm I'm smart I don't.
Maybe I need to rethink my technique. But hey, I've had lots of practice!
__________________
Real cyclists use toe clips.
With great bikes comes great responsibility.
jimmuller
Real cyclists use toe clips.
With great bikes comes great responsibility.
jimmuller
09-04-17, 03:08 PM
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,489
Mentioned: 102 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1641 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 831 Times
in
540 Posts
A fair question. When I pull the rear wheel off I shift to the smallest sprocket, loosen the skewer, pop the wheel forward in the DOs, then while lifting the bike pull the RD back by the parallelogram until the FW clears the guide pulley. The allows the wheel to fall free. Putting the wheel back in is pretty much the reverse.
Hooking the chain on the hanger requires that I get a hand greasy (I've tried moving it with a tire iron but I must be clumsy, and then the chain has more tension and less clearance.
The only real problem I usually have is the chain falling off the chain rings when I lay the bike down. I sometimes end up with a greasy hand anyway, but I'm I'm smart I don't.
Maybe I need to rethink my technique. But hey, I've had lots of practice!
Hooking the chain on the hanger requires that I get a hand greasy (I've tried moving it with a tire iron but I must be clumsy, and then the chain has more tension and less clearance.
The only real problem I usually have is the chain falling off the chain rings when I lay the bike down. I sometimes end up with a greasy hand anyway, but I'm I'm smart I don't.
Maybe I need to rethink my technique. But hey, I've had lots of practice!
I find them so essential that I've installed on all my CF C&V bikes have, a clipped on version of the peg which is more like a hook. Does not work quite,as well as the brazed on peg on my steel bikes, as the hook tends to turn on the stay from the chain's tension, but still a better situation than having my chain's dangling and banging around when the rear wheel is off, and keeps the chain on the front rings, so there's no messing around up front needed to be done.
__________________
72 Line Seeker
83 Davidson Signature
84 Peugeot PSV
84 Peugeot PY10FC
84 Gitane Tour de France.
85 Vitus Plus Carbone 7
86 ALAN Record Carbonio
86 Medici Aerodynamic (Project)
88 Pinarello Montello
89 Bottecchia Professional Chorus SL
95 Trek 5500 OCLV (Project)
72 Line Seeker
83 Davidson Signature
84 Peugeot PSV
84 Peugeot PY10FC
84 Gitane Tour de France.
85 Vitus Plus Carbone 7
86 ALAN Record Carbonio
86 Medici Aerodynamic (Project)
88 Pinarello Montello
89 Bottecchia Professional Chorus SL
95 Trek 5500 OCLV (Project)
09-05-17, 09:47 AM
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Bozeman
Posts: 4,094
Bikes: 199? Landshark Roadshark, 198? Mondonico Diamond, 1987 Panasonic DX-5000, 1987 Bianchi Limited, Univega... Chrome..., 1989 Schwinn Woodlands, Motobecane USA Record, Raleigh Tokul 2
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1131 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I've tried using them a few times, but have always found them more annoying than anything.
To remove the wheel I simply shift to the smallest cog, loosen the QR, loosen the brakes, then give the top of the wheel a good smack and the wheel usually falls out of the dropouts. If the derailleur gets in the way I grab it by the cage (as to not get dirty) and hold it out of the way while I jimmy the wheel out. I do the same when putting it back in.
To remove the wheel I simply shift to the smallest cog, loosen the QR, loosen the brakes, then give the top of the wheel a good smack and the wheel usually falls out of the dropouts. If the derailleur gets in the way I grab it by the cage (as to not get dirty) and hold it out of the way while I jimmy the wheel out. I do the same when putting it back in.
