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Old 11-05-21, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by seypat
That sounds like the opinion of each side in this thread.

I find the idea that there are "sides" on this issue hilarious.

I don't want a triple, I feel bad that people who do largely can't find them. I'm also annoyed that I find it very hard to find new bikes with a big enough chain ring for me. I don't feel the need to turn that into some sort of argument about the inherent inferiority of the compact for anyone else but me.
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Old 11-05-21, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Everything said in this thread has been said about six different times in several different ways. We are just recycling now ....
Well this is Bicker Forums, right?
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Originally Posted by rydabent
It kinda boils down to the fact-------------change for the sake of change is no progress at all. It only appeals to those that want to have the "latest" in equipment.

You're begging the question. How do YOU know people aren't changing because they like the new setup better?
You're telling a bunch of people who prefer 1x that they're wrong, who are you to make such a judgment?

YOU make no sense at all.
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Aaaaaaaannd we're off to another 20 pages!
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Originally Posted by seypat
That name has already been used. Keep on trucking!

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This sort of question/statement always garners the most "interest". Two things: there are many "crossover gear ratios" in a three X whatever (although that's what I've been using happily for many years) so you're not getting all the ratios you think you are, and my wife just went from 3X9 to 1X12 and loves it.

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Old 11-05-21, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 2old
... my wife just went from 3X9 to 1X12 and loves it.
My wife absolutely loved the change from 3x9 to 2x11, and was even happier when she got electronic shifting. Fashion doesn't exist in her world of bikes (except for clothing, of course). She's never read a bike publication or looked at an online bike forum, so I'm not sure how Big Bike is getting the messages to her.
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Old 11-05-21, 11:41 AM
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Most of this boils down to where you ride and how strong you are.

For those who are riding on the flats, there is no need for an inner chainring. Can ride all day without it.

Where I live nothing is flat. I’m not in the mountains, but when I roll down my driveway I can’t go anywhere without having some amount of climbing. When I was younger my low gear was 42-28. When I was older, it went to 38-32. At 65 I went to a triple with a 30-32. 6 months ago I’m running 30-36, which I rarely use, but it’s there when I have to.

I was never that strong a rider, and obviously much less now. But I know my current ability has nothing to do with the future of cycling. I’ll leave that to younger generations. I never want to become one of “those” old guys.

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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
My wife absolutely loved the change from 3x9 to 2x11, and was even happier when she got electronic shifting. Fashion doesn't exist in her world of bikes (except for clothing, of course). She's never read a bike publication or looked at an online bike forum, so I'm not sure how Big Bike is getting the messages to her.
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Old 11-05-21, 11:51 AM
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Her guilty pleasure is those "ghost hunter" shows. I thought they were harmless ...
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Old 11-05-21, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Gravel Rider
Aaaaaaaannd we're off to another 20 pages!
This may be OP's most successful troll thread to date.
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Originally Posted by seypat
That name has already been used. Keep on trucking!

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Ah! So, no dibs! Bummer.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
You're begging the question. How do YOU know people aren't changing because they like the new setup better?
You're telling a bunch of people who prefer 1x that they're wrong, who are you to make such a judgment?

YOU make no sense at all.
So who do you say is right, the people that want 36 gears or the 1x people???

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Originally Posted by livedarklions
If memory serves, he had 4 "gears".

Addendum-------------checked and yes he had 4 rocket chambers.

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Originally Posted by rydabent
So who do you say is right, they people that want 36 gears or the 1x people???
Moar gears obviously!
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Originally Posted by 2old
This sort of question/statement always garners the most "interest". Two things: there are many "crossover gear ratios" in a three X whatever (although that's what I've been using happily for many years) so you're not getting all the ratios you think you are, and my wife just went from 3X9 to 1X12 and loves it.
Many of us dont look at using cross over ratios. We look at the triple as 1) going up hills, 2) most of the time cruising, and 3) down hill or with the wind, and just shift across the rear cluster during each of those 3 conditions.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
This may be OP's most successful troll thread to date.
More with the personal attacks. Just try to add your points to the debate. It would be nice for a change.
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Originally Posted by rydabent
So who do you say is right, they people that want 36 gears or the 1x people???
Both… and everyone else. Even me riding single speed. Different people, different rides, different bikes. All right, for each of them.

Otto
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
This may be OP's most successful troll thread to date.
Originally Posted by rydabent
More with the personal attacks.
You think that’s a personal attack? How do you get through the day?
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Originally Posted by rydabent
So who do you say is right, the people that want 36 gears or the 1x people???
Originally Posted by ofajen
Both… and everyone else. Even me riding single speed. Different people, different rides, different bikes. All right, for each of them.

Otto
There’s no reason to go all rational on us.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
My wife absolutely loved the change from 3x9 to 2x11, and was even happier when she got electronic shifting. Fashion doesn't exist in her world of bikes (except for clothing, of course). She's never read a bike publication or looked at an online bike forum, so I'm not sure how Big Bike is getting the messages to her.

Fluoridation of the water supply.
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Originally Posted by rydabent
So who do you say is right, the people that want 36 gears or the 1x people???

Yes.


I'll bet you don't get that.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
There’s no reason to go all rational on us.
No kidding, that would end the thread.
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Originally Posted by rydabent
More with the personal attacks. Just try to add your points to the debate. It would be nice for a change.

There's no debate fer cryin' out loud, just people (mostly you) who can't figure out that it's ok for other people to have different needs and preferences.
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Originally Posted by ofajen
Both… and everyone else. Even me riding single speed. Different people, different rides, different bikes. All right, for each of them.

Otto

Wrong, the only correct answer is the 5 speed IG hub. Myself and 99% of the cyclists on the planet are doing it wrong.
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