why do people blow red lights?
07-25-08, 10:55 AM
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why do people blow red lights?
last night i recal one guy slowing for a red and then going through it anyway. a minute later as i walked past the next intersection some guy blew a red and near t boned this other car.
i called the police and told them about it. what else could be done? and why do people do that? i know some of it (from experience when i was first driving) can come from not seeing the lights (i went through one once when i didn't even notice it there until it was too late) due to the business of the surroundings (this was in downtown dallas).
i called the police and told them about it. what else could be done? and why do people do that? i know some of it (from experience when i was first driving) can come from not seeing the lights (i went through one once when i didn't even notice it there until it was too late) due to the business of the surroundings (this was in downtown dallas).
07-25-08, 10:57 AM
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You are in Dallas, the land of the self entitled and self important driver. All that matters is that they get where they need to be when they need to be there. How dare you get in their way with your bike, or your red light, or your school bus.
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i roll thru signs and lights when the coast is clear -- fuel economy. horribly inefficient to convert all that good kinetic energy to heat.
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07-25-08, 11:01 AM
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oh, look at that, it's yellow, I can make it if I speed up... still yellow... still yellow, oh crap it's red and I ain't gonna stop, get outta the way you damn peds, you're holding me up.
ME ME ME, I'm the only person that matters. Rampant Alpha behavior I guess?
ME ME ME, I'm the only person that matters. Rampant Alpha behavior I guess?
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last night i recal one guy slowing for a red and then going through it anyway. a minute later as i walked past the next intersection some guy blew a red and near t boned this other car.
i called the police and told them about it. what else could be done? and why do people do that? i know some of it (from experience when i was first driving) can come from not seeing the lights (i went through one once when i didn't even notice it there until it was too late) due to the business of the surroundings (this was in downtown dallas).
i called the police and told them about it. what else could be done? and why do people do that? i know some of it (from experience when i was first driving) can come from not seeing the lights (i went through one once when i didn't even notice it there until it was too late) due to the business of the surroundings (this was in downtown dallas).
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07-25-08, 11:07 AM
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My time is more important than anyone else's. Learn that mantra and you'll be fine. 
07-25-08, 11:08 AM
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actually, we have a lot of count down lights intersections, but some people still try to go through the intersection after it's been red for 1sec. And then we also have red light cams, but people still fail at stopping at the red.
another reason: people forgot the real meaning of the yellow light, which is start braking if it's safe and go through intersection cautiously if you can't stop behind the line.
but oh well, case and point, go through intersection cautiously ALL THE TIME, look left, look right, look left again, listen for any cars and proceed
another reason: people forgot the real meaning of the yellow light, which is start braking if it's safe and go through intersection cautiously if you can't stop behind the line.
but oh well, case and point, go through intersection cautiously ALL THE TIME, look left, look right, look left again, listen for any cars and proceed
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07-25-08, 11:08 AM
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because they can get away with it until a red-light camera gets installed at the intersection or they get in an accident.
07-25-08, 11:18 AM
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It all comes down to the fact that laws and law enforcement don't really want to solve the problem.
If red light running faced the following punishment people would stop:
1st offense- Fine to equal $1000 or 1/3 bluebook value of the car, whichever is greater
2nd offense- Fine to equal $2000 or 2/3 bluebook value of the car, whichever is greater
3rd offense Fine of $5000 AND car is seized for public auction.
Traffic fines are typically priced according to economic theory applied to the need for revenue
taken in the form of fines. They are set low enough so that people barely change their behavior.
The cops want drivers to break traffic laws- that way its easy to write citations and collect fines.
Red light running (to me) is totally different. Red light runners cause collisions and kill people. This
is totally different from a driver speeding 10mph over the limit. Save the money making fine-rates
for those types. Red-light runner fines should ONLY be priced for a deterrent effect to hopefully
stop the behavior or at least significantly cut it down.
rant over
If red light running faced the following punishment people would stop:
1st offense- Fine to equal $1000 or 1/3 bluebook value of the car, whichever is greater
2nd offense- Fine to equal $2000 or 2/3 bluebook value of the car, whichever is greater
3rd offense Fine of $5000 AND car is seized for public auction.
Traffic fines are typically priced according to economic theory applied to the need for revenue
taken in the form of fines. They are set low enough so that people barely change their behavior.
The cops want drivers to break traffic laws- that way its easy to write citations and collect fines.
Red light running (to me) is totally different. Red light runners cause collisions and kill people. This
is totally different from a driver speeding 10mph over the limit. Save the money making fine-rates
for those types. Red-light runner fines should ONLY be priced for a deterrent effect to hopefully
stop the behavior or at least significantly cut it down.
rant over
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07-25-08, 11:48 AM
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DUDE! I call the cops ever time I see a drunk driver or a bad driver doing stupid sh1t! I give them a full description of the car, driver AND their f'king tags! 
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You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve
07-25-08, 11:51 AM
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It's simple. They think they are too important to bother stopping.
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Don't think for a second that the US has anywhere near the worst driving in the world, we aren't even close. Try driving somewhere with no cops, no laws, no form of enforcement and no licensing system, you just pay $50 and get a license with no test. Then you'll realize that if someone even slows down for a red light before blasting through they are doing everyone else a favor.
Are you kidding? The punishment has to fit the crime. That's the point of having a civilized system of laws. Maybe cops have better things to do like catching murderers than sitting on a street corner waiting for someone to run a red light. Bottom line, if you don't want to become one of those Tbone accidents then pay attention when you approach an intersection and look for someone that's not slowing down instead of driving with your own head up your *****.
It all comes down to the fact that laws and law enforcement don't really want to solve the problem.
If red light running faced the following punishment people would stop:
1st offense- Fine to equal $1000 or 1/3 bluebook value of the car, whichever is greater
2nd offense- Fine to equal $2000 or 2/3 bluebook value of the car, whichever is greater
3rd offense Fine of $5000 AND car is seized for public auction.
Traffic fines are typically priced according to economic theory applied to the need for revenue
taken in the form of fines. They are set low enough so that people barely change their behavior.
The cops want drivers to break traffic laws- that way its easy to write citations and collect fines.
Red light running (to me) is totally different. Red light runners cause collisions and kill people. This
is totally different from a driver speeding 10mph over the limit. Save the money making fine-rates
for those types. Red-light runner fines should ONLY be priced for a deterrent effect to hopefully
stop the behavior or at least significantly cut it down.
rant over
If red light running faced the following punishment people would stop:
1st offense- Fine to equal $1000 or 1/3 bluebook value of the car, whichever is greater
2nd offense- Fine to equal $2000 or 2/3 bluebook value of the car, whichever is greater
3rd offense Fine of $5000 AND car is seized for public auction.
Traffic fines are typically priced according to economic theory applied to the need for revenue
taken in the form of fines. They are set low enough so that people barely change their behavior.
The cops want drivers to break traffic laws- that way its easy to write citations and collect fines.
Red light running (to me) is totally different. Red light runners cause collisions and kill people. This
is totally different from a driver speeding 10mph over the limit. Save the money making fine-rates
for those types. Red-light runner fines should ONLY be priced for a deterrent effect to hopefully
stop the behavior or at least significantly cut it down.
rant over
07-25-08, 12:04 PM
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Don't think for a second that the US has anywhere near the worst driving in the world, we aren't even close. Try driving somewhere with no cops, no laws, no form of enforcement and no licensing system, you just pay $50 and get a license with no test. Then you'll realize that if someone even slows down for a red light before blasting through they are doing everyone else a favor.
Are you kidding? The punishment has to fit the crime. That's the point of having a civilized system of laws. Maybe cops have better things to do like catching murderers than sitting on a street corner waiting for someone to run a red light. Bottom line, if you don't want to become one of those Tbone accidents then pay attention when you approach an intersection and look for someone that's not slowing down instead of driving with your own head up your *****.
Are you kidding? The punishment has to fit the crime. That's the point of having a civilized system of laws. Maybe cops have better things to do like catching murderers than sitting on a street corner waiting for someone to run a red light. Bottom line, if you don't want to become one of those Tbone accidents then pay attention when you approach an intersection and look for someone that's not slowing down instead of driving with your own head up your *****.
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why don't we have those count down things? i went through a red (supposedly. i didn't bother to argue it) once on my bike. ever since i slam on yellow since i don't know how long these yellows last. what's the point in a yellow?
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EDIT: Plus Detectives and School Resource still do things like party patrol. And I'm sure that's where a lot of us 20-somethings have had run in's with cops.
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I asked the neighbor kid what the different colors on the traffic light meant.
This is what he said:
Green means go.
Yellow means step on the gas.
Red means go through but look for cops.
This is what he said:
Green means go.
Yellow means step on the gas.
Red means go through but look for cops.
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" why do people blow red lights?"
I assume it is because they a weak riders? Too weak to accelerate back to speed from a stop? That's what I have always thought.
I assume it is because they a weak riders? Too weak to accelerate back to speed from a stop? That's what I have always thought.
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