Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Advocacy & Safety
Reload this Page >

Get On The Sidewalk !!!

Search
Notices
Advocacy & Safety Cyclists should expect and demand safe accommodation on every public road, just as do all other users. Discuss your bicycle advocacy and safety concerns here.

Get On The Sidewalk !!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-19-06, 04:14 PM
  #1  
fordfasterr
One speed: FAST !
Thread Starter
 
fordfasterr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ft. Lauderdale FL
Posts: 3,375

Bikes: Ebay Bikes... =)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Get On The Sidewalk !!!

It happened to me again (2nd time this year) today after work on the way home after a nice detour ride to the beach =)

The lady honked her horn at me, then slowly passed with plenty of space..

I caught her half a mile up the road when she got stuck at a light.. I pulled up next to her and she rolled her window down and said " Use the sidewalk! " ... (she was a cute young girl...) I could barely reply to her because I was a bit winded after pushing so hard to catch up to her.. (34 mph on flat road for a few blocks there!!!)... and so I somehow mumbled to her about how its illegal to ride the bicycle on the sidewalk in this city (because we were in a business district and that is the law here) and then I told her to read the road rules regarding bicycles and that I have the right to use the road... all that vc stuff....

anyway, she just looked at me like I was ******** and told me to be careful as she rolled up her window......

. Thanks lady.

=)
fordfasterr is offline  
Old 06-19-06, 05:15 PM
  #2  
noisebeam
Arizona Dessert
 
noisebeam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: AZ
Posts: 15,030

Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix, Lemond Poprad. Retired: Jamis Sputnik, Centurion LeMans Fixed, Diamond Back ascent ex

Mentioned: 76 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5345 Post(s)
Liked 2,169 Times in 1,288 Posts
Originally Posted by fordfasterr
she was a cute young girl... after pushing so hard to catch up to her... I somehow mumbled
Well, did you get her number?

Al
noisebeam is offline  
Old 06-19-06, 06:34 PM
  #3  
jwc
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 399

Bikes: Specialized (2) Trek 400, Raleigh 3spd

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Your conversation should have gone like this...

Interesting point, though it is illegal. If you are free Saturday night, we can discuss this even further over dinner.
jwc is offline  
Old 06-21-06, 02:08 PM
  #4  
DogBoy
No one carries the DogBoy
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Upper Midwest USA
Posts: 2,320

Bikes: Roubaix Expert Di2, Jamis Renegade, Surly Disc Trucker, Cervelo P2, CoMotion Tandem

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by fordfasterr
... (34 mph on flat road for a few blocks there!!!)...
BS meter.
DogBoy is offline  
Old 06-21-06, 02:15 PM
  #5  
CommuterRun
Conservative Hippie
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Wakulla Co. FL
Posts: 4,271
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
CR in the same situation:

Pretty Driver: "Get on the sidewalk!!"
CR: "It's illegal here to ride on the sidewalk. If you knew how to drive, you would know that."

CR doesn't have much patience with people, sometimes.
CommuterRun is offline  
Old 06-21-06, 03:00 PM
  #6  
ghettocruiser
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 4,063
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by DogBoy
BS meter.
Tailwind? Draft from truck? Come on, if he said 44mph maybe, but 34?
ghettocruiser is offline  
Old 06-21-06, 03:15 PM
  #7  
Neist
Senior Member
 
Neist's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 219
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ghettocruiser
Tailwind? Draft from truck? Come on, if he said 44mph maybe, but 34?
Its possible. Hell, people can sprint for short periods on track bikes for close to 30. On a geared bike at high cadence you should be able to work up to faster.
Neist is offline  
Old 06-21-06, 03:26 PM
  #8  
noisebeam
Arizona Dessert
 
noisebeam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: AZ
Posts: 15,030

Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix, Lemond Poprad. Retired: Jamis Sputnik, Centurion LeMans Fixed, Diamond Back ascent ex

Mentioned: 76 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5345 Post(s)
Liked 2,169 Times in 1,288 Posts
Originally Posted by Neist
Its possible. Hell, people can sprint for short periods on track bikes for close to 30. On a geared bike at high cadence you should be able to work up to faster.
Very fit people can ride for long periods at 30mph.
But sustaining solo 34mph for several blocks? Not sure how long a block is there, but where I live a block is a mile.

I really don't care though, its a story, details are less important than the fact he went all out and saw such speeds the one or few times he glanced at speed.

Al
noisebeam is offline  
Old 06-21-06, 03:51 PM
  #9  
oilfreeandhappy
Senior Member
 
oilfreeandhappy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Fort Collins, CO
Posts: 1,065

Bikes: Shasta Kiliminjaro, Optima Dragon Recumbent

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I go 34 HMPH - half miles per hour.
__________________
Jim
Make a BOLD Statement While Cycling!
oilfreeandhappy is offline  
Old 06-21-06, 05:38 PM
  #10  
Bikepacker67
Banned
 
Bikepacker67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ogopogo's shoreline
Posts: 4,082

Bikes: LHT, Kona Smoke

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by oilfreeandhappy
I go 34 HMPH - half miles per hour.
Ohh Ya?? Well I go 60 QMPH!
Bikepacker67 is offline  
Old 06-21-06, 07:53 PM
  #11  
kb0tnv
Senior Member
 
kb0tnv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: St. Louis MO
Posts: 273

Bikes: Surly Cross-Check

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
one of my old replies to "get on the sidewalk" was "I will if you will?" But I have given up trying to educate motorists myself. Not worth it. If it becomes a problem with the same motorist on my regular route to work. I will get their license number and have the Missouri Bicycle Federation (mobikefed.org) send them a letter stating the rules of the road for bikes. That usually helps. But we shouldn't really even spend the time. I give it up since there really isn't any time and we don't have any authority to pull them over or try to "educate them". Just do your best and keep cycling! Eventually they will run into one of those "sidewalk" cyclists when they are walking and will find out for themselves why cycists need to be out on the road.

Keep Cycling!
kb0tnv is offline  
Old 06-22-06, 02:21 PM
  #12  
anitra
Member
 
anitra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Auburn, MA
Posts: 34

Bikes: K2 Arcadia, Jamis Satellite

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by kb0tnv
Eventually they will run into one of those "sidewalk" cyclists when they are walking and will find out for themselves why cyclists need to be out on the road.
These people walk? Like, on the sidewalks? Aren't those for cyclists?
anitra is offline  
Old 06-22-06, 11:49 PM
  #13  
40x14
delicious
 
40x14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: nyc downtown
Posts: 316

Bikes: The one under my bum.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by fordfasterr
... (she was a cute young girl...)
One day she will be an old lady, driving a big old lady car, and she'll still be honking at cyclists and telling them to get on the sidewalk. Unless she's flirting with you. If she is then she has no idea that a honk can scare the daylights out of a non-motorist. In that case, well, you must figure out how to get her digits and school her.

Last edited by 40x14; 06-23-06 at 08:37 AM.
40x14 is offline  
Old 06-23-06, 06:34 AM
  #14  
fordfasterr
One speed: FAST !
Thread Starter
 
fordfasterr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ft. Lauderdale FL
Posts: 3,375

Bikes: Ebay Bikes... =)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ghettocruiser
Tailwind? Draft from truck? Come on, if he said 44mph maybe, but 34?

The stretch I was on has a very very slight gradient that lends itself to building up speed... I was on my road bike so I downshifted and spun up as hard as I could.. I looked down once or twice and from one block to the next, both times I looked I was at 33 and 34 mph ... =)

I can sustain 32-35 mph for a little while in the velodrome on a regular basis so its not unreal for me to reach those speeds if I have a tail wind and a slight gradient...

And remember, nothing can boost your speed better than a little motivation !

This is florida after all ! =)
fordfasterr is offline  
Old 06-23-06, 09:16 AM
  #15  
Bekologist
totally louche
 
Bekologist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: A land that time forgot
Posts: 18,023

Bikes: the ever shifting stable loaded with comfortable road bikes and city and winter bikes

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts
there are hills in florida? maybe up by pensacola.....but i believe your mphs, those are very realistic traffic signal sprinting speeds, esp. when you're "on fire",
Bekologist is offline  
Old 06-23-06, 10:04 AM
  #16  
Trevor98
Senior Member
 
Trevor98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 1,038
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The other day I was riding with a friend, he saw some kids riding BMX bikes on the street and made a simular comment about sidewalks. I informed him that riding on sidewalks is illegal here (VA) and we got into a discussion of the legality and smartness of that law. In my experience, most drivers are dangerously ignorant of the rules of the road- especially where bikes are concerned.
Trevor98 is offline  
Old 06-23-06, 02:31 PM
  #17  
jyossarian
SERENITY NOW!!!
 
jyossarian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: In the 212
Posts: 8,738

Bikes: Haro Vector, IRO Rob Roy, Bianchi Veloce

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by noisebeam
Not sure how long a block is there, but where I live a block is a mile.
Where I live, there are 20 blocks to a mile.

TTIWWP
__________________
HHCMF - Take pride in your ability to amaze lesser mortals! - MikeR



We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!
jyossarian is offline  
Old 06-23-06, 02:38 PM
  #18  
noisebeam
Arizona Dessert
 
noisebeam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: AZ
Posts: 15,030

Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix, Lemond Poprad. Retired: Jamis Sputnik, Centurion LeMans Fixed, Diamond Back ascent ex

Mentioned: 76 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5345 Post(s)
Liked 2,169 Times in 1,288 Posts
Originally Posted by jyossarian
Where I live, there are 20 blocks to a mile.

TTIWWP
I know how most older cities like NY are and what the traditional 'block' means.
Just cause blocks are 1mi here, doesn't mean there are not lots of side streets between those blocks.

See google map. The blocks area 1mi grid of arterial roads as shown in yellow. Lots of smaller streets in white.

https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...,0.215607&om=1

Al
noisebeam is offline  
Old 06-23-06, 04:12 PM
  #19  
DataJunkie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,277
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
What the heck is the big deal?
I can easily go 25 MPH on a very slight downhill with a loaded tour bike on my commute. Hell, I've hit 42mph downhill on the same bike. egads people
DataJunkie is offline  
Old 06-23-06, 04:18 PM
  #20  
fordfasterr
One speed: FAST !
Thread Starter
 
fordfasterr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ft. Lauderdale FL
Posts: 3,375

Bikes: Ebay Bikes... =)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DataJunkie
What the heck is the big deal?
I can easily go 25 MPH on a very slight downhill with a loaded tour bike on my commute. Hell, I've hit 42mph downhill on the same bike. egads people

exactly.

=)

I can easily hit 30 mph with neutral wind on a flat road.

And the other poster is right, there are no real hills in south florida, just small changes in elevation but not a " hill " per say...

When I say gradient, I mean a stretch of road that for some reason has a few inches of elevation from end to the other... but not something would even notice in a car but on a bike it is very noticeable, specailly when you are trying to accellerate....

=)
fordfasterr is offline  
Old 06-25-06, 07:58 PM
  #21  
ghettocruiser
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 4,063
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Word. *I* Didn't mean to come off as a doubter. 34 mph on a road bike is attainable and somewhat sustainable under many conditions. My comment was directed at those calling BS on your speed, actually. The thing was mildly reminiscent of the guys who insisted you could *never* attain 40mph on a BMX no matter how big the downhill was a while back.
ghettocruiser is offline  
Old 06-27-06, 05:27 PM
  #22  
Pampusik
File Not Found
 
Pampusik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 135

Bikes: two two-wheeled types

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yah, as if using the sidewalk would make a difference. Last night, I saw a car turn through a bicyclist who thought she was better off on the sidewalk.

Stay on the road and use lights, and you'll live longer.
Pampusik is offline  
Old 06-28-06, 06:32 AM
  #23  
vtjim
Belt drive!
 
vtjim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Posts: 2,614

Bikes: 2011 Trek Soho DLX

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DataJunkie
What the heck is the big deal?
I can easily go 25 MPH on a very slight downhill with a loaded tour bike on my commute. Hell, I've hit 42mph downhill on the same bike. egads people
Jeez. Yeah. I can break 30 for a limited time on my 40-pound 20 year-old commuter if I want to abuse myself. (This is on a flat surface, of course.) And with platform pedals!
vtjim is offline  
Old 06-28-06, 06:43 AM
  #24  
oboeguy
34x25 FTW!
 
oboeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,013

Bikes: Kona Jake, Scott CR1, Dahon SpeedPro

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The most recent time something like that happened I mutterred "learn the law" and moved on. It didn't feel very clever at the time, but, looking back, it doesn't sound so bad.
oboeguy is offline  
Old 06-28-06, 07:07 AM
  #25  
nova
hill hater
 
nova's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: norton ohio 5.5 miles from center road tow path trail head
Posts: 2,127

Bikes: cannondale t400 1987 model and a raleigh gran prix from 1973

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ghettocruiser
Word. *I* Didn't mean to come off as a doubter. 34 mph on a road bike is attainable and somewhat sustainable under many conditions. My comment was directed at those calling BS on your speed, actually. The thing was mildly reminiscent of the guys who insisted you could *never* attain 40mph on a BMX no matter how big the downhill was a while back.
Heh i had a avarage of 32 mph for just under 1 mile about a week ago. Jhonson road from medina line to wooster road Yes i ran the stop sign with the help of a freind witha trailer pretending to have stalled as i flew by

Was quite fun. Max speed of 41 avarage of 32. This paticular road is nearly all down hill with a small up hill roller or 2 nothing that will realy burn off any real speed. So a bike can just keep accelarating all the way. Even on that road my legs were burning and felt like i was walking in jello after words. Wish i had a HRM i know my heart rate had to be way way up there as well. Cant recall the exact cadence now but was in the 130s max and high 90s avg. I did pass 2 cars going down must have been at the 40ish mark when i did.
nova is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.