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Old 01-13-23, 03:34 AM
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Recommend good gear ratio? moving from 4-speed to 7-speed geared hub

Hi all bike enthusiasts. Currently riding in the city in a mixed flat/hilly terrain (well there is one hill that I am struggling with)
I am mostly using 4th and sometimes 3rd gear. 2nd when climbing slight hills and the 1st gear only on the one steep hill that I am struggling with. but like 80-90% of time I am in 4th gear. So from the new 7speed hub I would appreciate a slightly harder gear than I currently have, sometimes I get bored when riding on flat terrain.

This is what I came up with, I am open to suggestions as to a ring/cog combination that would do better.
https://ritzelrechner.de/?GR=SAX8&KB...Z2=14&UF2=1380

Yes, I do use 18 inch wheel, my bike frame is highly specific/non-standard. I use this to move around https://halfbikes.com/

Though I must say I am afraid of such a setup, as I am rarely using 2nd gear on my current hub, seems like I would lose first 4 gears on my new kindernay hub.
Any recommendions?
I am not sure I will be able to fit a 12t 9-spline cog on the hub, but I think it is possible, then the ratio would look like this
https://ritzelrechner.de/?GR=SAX8&KB...Z2=12&UF2=1380
and seems like a better suited option, but this is my first time building up my own gear setup.
thanks in advance for any advice.
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Old 01-13-23, 05:25 AM
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According to this page:

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/internal-gears.html

For a 5-8 speed IGH your second highest gear should be ~5.6 development. Since you want a bigger gear, I would adjust this formula so that your 3rd highest gear was ~5.6 meters development. I would bias my sprocket choices toward the largest cog and largest chainring practical to achieve this, definitely larger than a 12t. The reason being that larger cogs wear longer than smaller ones.
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Ok, thanks, this is useful info, so from these findings, going for 14T cog and 46T chainring seems like a better option
https://ritzelrechner.de/?GR=KND7&KB...Z2=14&UF2=1380
I am just not sure how much I will utilize gears 1-3 with development 2.2-3.5meters when I am rarely using 5-6m development on my current sturmey archer hub (first two gears)
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Old 01-15-23, 07:51 AM
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Looks good. Ride it. It is relatively cheap to adjust your gear range by changing the rear sprocket if you don't like the current setup.
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You didn't mention what brand of 4 speed you currently have but both Sturmey Archer and Shimano 4 speed hubs are direct in first with no underdrive gears.
Switching to a 7 speed Shimano hub will give you underdrive gears and a slower ratio at the top end than you currently have so you will want either a smaller sprocket or a larger chain ring for sure.
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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
You didn't mention what brand of 4 speed you currently have but both Sturmey Archer and Shimano 4 speed hubs are direct in first with no underdrive gears.
The Halfbike 3 uses an SA hub, but I wonder if it is a specific OEM product made for their machine? Otherwise the gearing should be high enough. With the normal 4 speed hub, if the cogs are 42/14, it would range from 54 to 113 gear inches, I think. That would be 4.3 to 9.0 meters. Do I have the chainring and rear cog correct?

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WTF. TROLL-advertisement..
116 GI = way over 30 mph. On that clown POS standup scooter that will only do flat MUPs ???

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Originally Posted by ofajen
The Halfbike 3 uses an SA hub, but I wonder if it is a specific OEM product made for their machine? Otherwise the gearing should be high enough. With the normal 4 speed hub, if the cogs are 42/14, it would range from 54 to 113 gear inches, I think. That would be 4.3 to 9.0 meters. Do I have the chainring and rear cog correct?

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yes, half bike 3 uses standard sturmey archer RX-4, the one with drum brake. no OEM product. the chainring and rear cog are correct.
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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
You didn't mention what brand of 4 speed you currently have but both Sturmey Archer and Shimano 4 speed hubs are direct in first with no underdrive gears.
Switching to a 7 speed Shimano hub will give you underdrive gears and a slower ratio at the top end than you currently have so you will want either a smaller sprocket or a larger chain ring for sure.
yes, that is true, current hub has no underdrive gears, this new hub has 3 underdrive gears. i guess i will start with 46T/14T and go from there, thank you all.
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Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53
WTF. TROLL-advertisement..<br />116 GI = way over 30 mph. On that clown POS standup scooter that will only do flat MUPs ???
<br />yes, because everyone wants to be riding their bike standing up, go buy three for the price of two now.
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