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Old 02-07-23, 02:34 PM
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Super long shot but if there is a brake lever (steel, Legnano branded) for my Condorino bars pleez grab.
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Originally Posted by mhespenheide
If RiddleOfSteel (or anyone else!) has a frameset that would be a candidate for 650b conversion, 62-ish by 59-ish for seat tube and top tube, I'd be all-ears. Especially if the tubing is nice. I'm looking for a Gugificazione project in the coming year.
Would you consider a 65 cm PX-10 (around 1970, Nervex Pro lugs) if it was free? I know it fits 650b x 42 mm tires, checked it already. 531 DB throughout, chrome on rear stays is good, I think (not looking at it right now). It was damaged, repaired by me, pretty sure it's 100% fine at the repair site, not going to break there again, details if interested. Repair site looks perfect from the outside, after repaint you won't be able to tell it was repaired.

The 65 cm might be a deal-breaker though eh?

I'll extend the same offer to any BF'er who can come pick it up in Seattle, if mhespenheide decides to pass. It comes with no fork, but I have a cool Soma Champs Elysees fork with canti posts at 650b height, all-chrome, 1" (English) steerer is long, threadless, large rake (low trail). Pretty sure it's about the same height as the original fork, so it won't cause much if any TT slope. Fork is NOS, unused. I'll sell the fork for what I paid, about $200 I think. Maybe they still sell that fork, see it here, but the Purchase button doesn't work so I don't know if they have any. This one has a wide crown, so you could use a 48 mm tire in front with fender, wider without fender of course. Or it looks great with 42 mm tire. Which is about the max clearance on the frame, width between chainstays being the choke point.

Sorry I don't have pictures of the completed repair yet, because I only just this second decided to give the frame away. Will dig it out of my basement pile for a serious enquiry, but please don't ask if you're not seriously considering it — my house is currently a construction zone (minor remodel in progress) and the PX-10 has piles of stuff in front of it that will need to be moved.

Why free? I happen to have two PX-10 frames right now, both the same size and about the same year, and I'm going to keep the better-looking one. I don't feel like I can charge anything for this repaired frame with the ruined paint, but I think it's a good candidate for Gugificazione. After you pay for a new paint job, it'll be worth about what the paint cost.

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Originally Posted by bulgie
Would you consider a 65 cm PX-10 (around 1970, Nervex Pro lugs) if it was free? I know it fits 650b x 42 mm tires, checked it already. 531 DB throughout, chrome on rear stays is good, I think (not looking at it right now). It was damaged, repaired by me, pretty sure it's 100% fine at the repair site, not going to break there again, details if interested. Repair site looks perfect from the outside, after repaint you won't be able to tell it was repaired.

The 65 cm might be a deal-breaker though eh?

I'll extend the same offer to any BF'er who can come pick it up in Seattle, if mhespenheide decides to pass. It comes with no fork, but I have a cool Soma Champs Elysees fork with canti posts at 650b height, all-chrome, 1" (English) steerer is long, threadless, large rake (low trail). Pretty sure it's about the same height as the original fork, so it won't cause much if any TT slope. Fork is NOS, unused. I'll sell the fork for what I paid, about $200 I think. Maybe they still sell that fork, see it here, but the Purchase button doesn't work so I don't know if they have any. This one has a wide crown, so you could use a 48 mm tire in front with fender, wider without fender of course. Or it looks great with 42 mm tire. Which is about the max clearance on the frame, width between chainstays being the choke point.

Sorry I don't have pictures of the completed repair yet, because I only just this second decided to give the frame away. Will dig it out of my basement pile for a serious enquiry, but please don't ask if you're not seriously considering it — my house is currently a construction zone (minor remodel in progress) and the PX-10 has piles of stuff in front of it that will need to be moved.

Why free? I happen to have two PX-10 frames right now, both the same size and about the same year, and I'm going to keep the better-looking one. I don't feel like I can charge anything for this repaired frame with the ruined paint, but I think it's a good candidate for Gugificazione. After you pay for a new paint job, it'll be worth about what the paint cost.

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Are those measured CTT? Not sure if the 62cm spec is CTC, which would put it real close to what he's looking for. Perhaps the TT length is more critical to Mark H.

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Originally Posted by bulgie
Would you consider a 65 cm PX-10 (around 1970, Nervex Pro lugs) if it was free? I know it fits 650b x 42 mm tires, checked it already. 531 DB throughout, chrome on rear stays is good, I think (not looking at it right now). It was damaged, repaired by me, pretty sure it's 100% fine at the repair site, not going to break there again, details if interested. Repair site looks perfect from the outside, after repaint you won't be able to tell it was repaired.

The 65 cm might be a deal-breaker though eh?

I'll extend the same offer to any BF'er who can come pick it up in Seattle, if mhespenheide decides to pass. It comes with no fork, but I have a cool Soma Champs Elysees fork with canti posts at 650b height, all-chrome, 1" (English) steerer is long, threadless, large rake (low trail). Pretty sure it's about the same height as the original fork, so it won't cause much if any TT slope. Fork is NOS, unused. I'll sell the fork for what I paid, about $200 I think. Maybe they still sell that fork, see it here, but the Purchase button doesn't work so I don't know if they have any. This one has a wide crown, so you could use a 48 mm tire in front with fender, wider without fender of course. Or it looks great with 42 mm tire. Which is about the max clearance on the frame, width between chainstays being the choke point.

Sorry I don't have pictures of the completed repair yet, because I only just this second decided to give the frame away. Will dig it out of my basement pile for a serious enquiry, but please don't ask if you're not seriously considering it — my house is currently a construction zone (minor remodel in progress) and the PX-10 has piles of stuff in front of it that will need to be moved.

Why free? I happen to have two PX-10 frames right now, both the same size and about the same year, and I'm going to keep the better-looking one. I don't feel like I can charge anything for this repaired frame with the ruined paint, but I think it's a good candidate for Gugificazione. After you pay for a new paint job, it'll be worth about what the paint cost.

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winner winner chicken dinner!

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You got the Urago. I thought that made you the winner then, but I was even more certain after I saw what you did with it.
AndyK I also bought your Pinarello Gran Tourismo at the same time. Winner Winner Chicken dinner!

My view is that we all won that day! We are fortunate enough to be able to indulge in our hobby and share our joint passion at events like the swap meet and after party!

Thank you for the kind words about the Urago. I enjoy riding (a lot!), but I also get a lot of pleasure (like many on this forum) giving old bikes a new lease on life, which allows me to put my artistic spin on them.

I won't be able to make the Seattle bike swap, but I hope I will get to see some of my C&V friends sometime in 2023 (fingers crossed!), and maybe some more bicycle horse trading will occur!
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Originally Posted by bulgie
Would you consider a 65 cm PX-10 (around 1970, Nervex Pro lugs) if it was free? I know it fits 650b x 42 mm tires, checked it already. 531 DB throughout, chrome on rear stays is good, I think (not looking at it right now). It was damaged, repaired by me, pretty sure it's 100% fine at the repair site, not going to break there again, details if interested. Repair site looks perfect from the outside, after repaint you won't be able to tell it was repaired.

The 65 cm might be a deal-breaker though eh?
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I would absolutely consider it, but can I ask how long the top tube is? The PX-10 tend to be long (the very opposite of Raleighs of that era!) and I think the 63's had a ~60cm top tube, so I worry that a 65 might be even longer.

And thank you for the kind offer. It's cool just to be interacting with you, here, when I've read so many of your posts on the iBob list over the years.
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we have a musical in Portland that evening.
Springtime for Hitler?
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Originally Posted by RustyJames
Super long shot but if there is a brake lever (steel, Legnano branded) for my Condorino bars pleez grab.
Legano hubs on Fiame Blue label rims can be available...
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Originally Posted by Roger M
Thomas and I are on the fence at this point. I am looking for a 9/10/11 speed Italian wheelset, so maybe that is motivation to go..

Please keep the thread updated on the lunch gathering plan.
I have these that will be available, I have them on my touring bike. I don't know the designation of the brand. The Fir rims are sweet


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I have these that will be available, I have them on my touring bike. I don't know the designation of the brand. The Fir rims are sweet



Thanks for the offer. Really nice looking wheels.

I am looking for a box section/lower profile rim though.
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Pictures or it didn't happen, the Legano. I don't have the correct skewers. Not bad, definitely has some use to them. I can swing these by






The front is really nice in bearings and rim/track. The back that has slight ripples going around. Not real bad, you can probably see the worst of spot on the second to last picture.
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I'm in for McMenamin's if anyone else is. The swap runs until two, but I don't imagine I need that long. One?
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Any Oregon facilitators that could help a guy out? I’m hoping someone has room to haul the Legnano wheels ^^ to the Portland area.

Alternately, I could travel a bit north in the next couple ‘o days if someone is south of Seattle.

Muchas gracias.

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Originally Posted by mhespenheide
If RiddleOfSteel (or anyone else!) has a frameset that would be a candidate for 650b conversion, 62-ish by 59-ish for seat tube and top tube, I'd be all-ears. Especially if the tubing is nice. I'm looking for a Gugificazione project in the coming year.
I’ve got a nice 62 chrome Vent Noir II currently set up as a fixed gear that I haven’t ridden in months that I’d let go. It’s been a road bike and a 650b bike in previous years. I live in Wallingford if you want to see it. I’m in “less stuff mode”so I won’t be going to the meet and won’t be around this afternoon but will be around this evening and tomorrow morning.
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No RiddleOfSteel today, Dang!

I'll be heading out in about an hour or so
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One of these, from the original owner.

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One these and those


and one of these after a tough day shopping


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Well the Viner is Italian like I've never seen space for 32mm room for fenders. In searching all the others has the ⭐️ on the lugs, crown, and bb. This one has none, no cutout in bb, and the brake bridge has a vertical threading on the underside




I have not determined what the seatpost is yet but I thinks it is 27.2, that's what I have jammed in the clamp
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Originally Posted by Mr. 66
Well the Viner is Italian like I've never seen space for 32mm room for fenders. In searching all the others has the ⭐️ on the lugs, crown, and bb. This one has none, no cutout in bb, and the brake bridge has a vertical threading on the underside




I have not determined what the seatpost is yet but I thinks it is 27.2, that's what I have jammed in the clamp
That's an awesome snag. That kind of clearance is like what all the kids have on their groad bikes these days. Those decals are amazing too. Reminds me of the 70s Toyota racing colors. Wish I could have gone but I need more bike projects and parts like I need a hole in my head. The only way I won't buy stuff is if I stay away from the sources.

Was there a repeat of the meeting of the minds at Mcmenamins?
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No, no crowd at bar, just me, lol. I did have plenty of people snickering at me with the haul as I paused to take the pictures. I parked just up around the corner.

The Viner looks pretty neat, reminds me of when AMF made volleyballs and Harley Davidsons. I have no idea what they were thinking about the logos, it's hard to read the branding.

I only saw two from the forum, another was there but I didn't see or recognize who that was.

I did see a Peter Mooney roll out, I saw a Mairposa(?). A very nice big PX10 got a lot of attention. Not a ton of C&V but I was a late shopper so I don't know, probably the best went earlier.

Bikeworks had there table setup, they were there mainly for PR, but they also receive a good amount of donation from this event. They didn't have stuff out except for a Campy MTB group with cantilevers on display, a lot lookielous but everyone wanted to break it up for the canti.

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Originally Posted by Mr. 66
Well the Viner is Italian like I've never seen space for 32mm room for fenders. In searching all the others has the ⭐️ on the lugs, crown, and bb. This one has none, no cutout in bb, and the brake bridge has a vertical threading on the underside
If that turns out to be too big for you, let me know.
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Well the Viner is Italian like I've never seen space for 32mm room for fenders. In searching all the others has the ⭐️ on the lugs, crown, and bb. This one has none, no cutout in bb, and the brake bridge has a vertical threading on the underside...
Your Viner frame lacks the ⭐️ windows because that feature was specific to the Professional model. I believe you have the Special Tourist model, which is what I have also.
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