veganbikes

Sora, Claris and Tourney yes either at or closer to the bottom but Tiagra no.

Russ Roth

The funny thing about amazon warehouse deals is that they're all described as used but that has no meaning other than the packaging has been opened or damaged sufficiently to be considered open. I bought a Park single arm pro shop stand that was listed as one of their low grades of used for just under 200.00, I figured the whole thing is a giant chunk of welded up steel so how bad could it be. The box was trashed but the stand was pristine and from the internal packaging had never even been opened. Big and bulky or heavy seem to get more box damage resulting in warehouse listings. I've also had things show up that were so clearly used they shouldn't have been relisted in the warehouse. That's the gamble though.

urbanknight

That's something I thought about a lot. When I was a bike mechanic, the lower end components were more difficult to work on and adjust, so I just decided that they sucked. It didn't occur to me until much later that those bikes are less likely to be meticulously maintained or stored in kinder environments. I also didn't consider the fact that they were probably assembled in a big box store by someone who doesn't work exclusively with bicycles. Later experience similar to yours made me realize the stuff worked fine, maybe a tad less smoothly and definitely heavier.

They sometimes put details under the exact item regarding its condition and reason. Still a gamble though. I ordered a duffle bag that was a return in as new condition. The problem is it wasn't the right product (was a smaller size valued at about half as much), and I'm wondering if that's why it was returned in the first place. Still, a short trip to Whole Foods took care of that.