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Old 08-29-22, 05:47 PM
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Have a few left but one is a particular favorite. The circa1965 Dilecta Le Blanc (France) was treated to a custom built Regina freewheel for it's Pelissier hubs. Rescued from a sentence as a fixie, it now has a long happy life ahead of it.

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Lovely new/old 5 speed

As I ride it now.

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Love the color on that Dilecta!

Two bikes running 2x5 here. The Raleigh Super Course has a 14-24 Atom block...


...and this Humber is equipped with a 14-28 TDC.


No complaints with either.

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Originally Posted by Lenton58
So you rear wheel is Centered? (edited) ... even though it doesn't look like it?

The frame looks a lot like my Trek 560 in Reynolds 501 — 'cept mine doesn't have braze-ons for fenders. What's the derailleur?
The mid point between the hub flanges is centered, perhaps a better way to measure it is that the distance from the outer lock nut to the hub flange is identical left and right. Having done this with a conventional rear hub the bearings are not equally centered.

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I think all my bikes are running 5 speed freewheels. Currently my Viking has 42/55 and 16-24. Gives me a nice range of gears and there's a psych factor with the 55 tooth chainring.
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Running a 1x5 here on the PX-10. Probably the most satisfying 'clunk' of shifting gears by reaching down and fanning that dt shifter at speed.
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Running a 1x5 here on the PX-10. Probably the most satisfying 'clunk' of shifting gears by reaching down and fanning that dt shifter at speed.
I've thought about doing that too. So cross chaining is no problem, or do you get some extra chain wear? Probabaly not much, right? What ratios are you running? ... like, how many teeth on everything?
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Originally Posted by branko_76
I'll be riding 5-speed freewheels for a while...............
I suspect you won't be using that 13-17T freewheel for very long, if at all.
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Originally Posted by Bad Lag
I suspect you won't be using that 13-17T freewheel for very long, if at all.
I want to try that one with a small chainring
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Except for the DaHon folders which are 1x7, everything in the garage is 120mm OLD and set up 2x5. The Raleigh International has 52-42 up front and 14-16-18-21-24 in the rear. On the Super Courses and, more recently, the Gran Sport I'm a fan of classic "Alpine" gearing 52-40, 14-17-20-24-28 since there are no duplicate (wasted) ratios and with only ten to start with it's nice to be able to use all of them. However, downsides are that double-shifts are almost always required to get the next-nearest ratio and cross-chaining is necessary to use all of the gears. As mentioned recently, cross-chaining a five speed block is tolerable on an bike with long chainstays and a flexible chain but it can be unpleasant and may cause increased wear on a short wheelbase machine.

Those are classic 1.5-step combinations, both very popular in the 1970s. I ran a tightened-up version, 50-42/14-16-18-20-23, on my old Nishiki, but since my Bianchi came with 2x6 anyway, I have extended the same progression with a very useful 26T in back. I find I really need either 3x5 or at least 2x6 to give me both the progression percentage and range I want.
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Originally Posted by big chainring
I think all my bikes are running 5 speed freewheels. Currently my Viking has 42/55 and 16-24. Gives me a nice range of gears and there's a psych factor with the 55 tooth chainring.
When I bought the first Capo Sieger, it came with aluminum 58-45 Simplex rings on an Agrati cottered steel crank, with a Caimi 14-16-18-20-22 freewheel. I probably have to keep this one 2x5, with severe limits on large cog size imposed by the 1960 Campy Gran Sport derailleur, so I am leaning toward 49-45 / 14-17-20-24-26, which works well because I want to avoid large-large cross-chaining, anyway.
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Originally Posted by Lenton58
I've thought about doing that too. So cross chaining is no problem, or do you get some extra chain wear? Probabaly not much, right? What ratios are you running? ... like, how many teeth on everything?
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I suspect you won't be using that 13-17T freewheel for very long, if at all.
I'll try to take a picture. Honestly I'm not sure. I picked this thing up from a bike co-op in pretty sad shape, but it was mostly all there. Had the handlebars turned up 'hobo' style, so it probably lived an interesting life on the streets for a bit. I've never had such a satisfying gear 'clunk' when changing gears...just super solid and with authority. Its sort of why some people want real old school 4x4s...they are not smooth, and they don't do things neatly for you...using them is a very tactile experience. Very 'manual' in nature. I like that. That is this bike, and it is really enjoyable. Absolutely no wondering if you kinda sorta maybe got to the next gear.
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Originally Posted by Bad Lag
I suspect you won't be using that 13-17T freewheel for very long, if at all.
Originally Posted by branko_76
I want to try that one with a small chainring
Even with a smaller chainring, the range of gearing is limited. You can gear down. You can gear up. You can gear in the middle. That freewheel just won't offer even two of those by itself.

Well, maybe if you had a wide range triple crank you could make it work.
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>>> SNIP >>> I've never had such a satisfying gear 'clunk' when changing gears...just super solid and with authority. Its sort of why some people want real old school 4x4s...they are not smooth, and they don't do things neatly for you...using them is a very tactile experience. Very 'manual' in nature. I like that. That is this bike, and it is really enjoyable. Absolutely no wondering if you kinda sorta maybe got to the next gear.
I think I know what you mean. My Gazelle is set up with a very compact 39-44T with a Shimano 6207 13-21T block. The derailleur is an old pantographed Shimano 600. The shifters are DT mounted SunTour — some racing flavour (I forget exactly). Clunk-clock-clunk. So satisfying! On the other hand, the Vitus that I want to change around is currently offering the experience of never knowing WTF I'm going to engage, followed by trimming and fooling around as it changes its mind when I stand on the cranks — a total PITA that I've tried to fix by hanging various derailleurs to no different effect.
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Yep you get it. Its the opposite of vague. Very engaging. No need to change anything, it just works so well for that bike. I used to commute on that bike with that setup, and the commute was about 25mi roundtrip. That bike was FAST! Or at least it felt fast haha, and isn't that what matters? I used to ride a Fuji S12-S, and @noglider had an apt description of that bike, something like 'smooth, slow, comfortable' and it was very smooth....and slow. Kinda had that 'Cadillac' thing going on. I wonder if that is people's experiences with the Super Sports and Sport Tourers. Anyway, it felt a little too slow for me (although was fantastically original and kept that way) and the PX-10 replaced it and felt like a lightning bolt, even with this super old, limited range, un-versatile 5-speed setup. Its just right for that bike. I'm using the smaller chainring btw.
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Originally Posted by browngw
Have a few left but one is a particular favorite. The circa1965 Dilecta Le Blanc (France) was treated to a custom built Regina freewheel for it's Pelissier hubs. Rescued from a sentence as a fixie, it now has a long happy life ahead of it.

As donated.

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As I ride it now.

"Unfixed with Some seventies Sun Tour.

What a gorgeous bicycle. Well done.
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OK, here’s mine:

13-21T Shimano 6207 block with ‘600’ derailleur. (I don’t use the index / SIS function.)

Shimano Tricolor 600 spider and cranks with 39-44T in ’105’ with Tricolor 600 derailleur. Compact!

A shot of the whole bike: Gazelle hand-built AB frame (early 80’s?) in Reynolds 531c. It’s a real mongrel with DNA from 4 countries. Very recently applied: NOS Mavic “Reflex” tub rims running on minty Campagnolo Record hubs. The wheel-set was built by my friend Ikuo Miura, proprietor of “Garage Ippon Sugi” here in Sendai.



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