SRAM Rival/Force--accidental upshift MYTH!!!
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What?? Who!?? I want these hords of disgruntled people with first-hand SRAM disillusionment to speak up!! They've certainly not done so yet on these forums--I've looked. All I ever seem to find are second-hand accounts of how so-and-so tried SRAM and couldn't stand it or my buddy Fred used the new SRAM group and then his dog died.
Sheesh!
[EDIT: Slovid's first-hand opinion is graciously noted!]
Sheesh!
[EDIT: Slovid's first-hand opinion is graciously noted!]
I was merely stating that I've heard this complaint more than a few times from people who've ridden SRAM. Obviously you've heard of it too or you wouldn't have started this thread.
I'm not about to go out and buy a SRAM groupset and install it on one of my bikes just to have a conversation with you about this...sorry. If I ever ride a bike equipped with it I'll be sure and post an honest evaluation of it though.
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I seem to recall reading about this "quirk" in a product review by Lennard Zinn. I'm going to reread the article again to refresh my memory.
If this thread hadn't made me curious, it might have been a while until I discovered it on my own. When I'm in the lower gears, I tend to glance often at my cassette to see where I'm at.
My take on it is this: if this "quirk" does exist (it does for me), it's such a minor thing that I wouldn't worry about it. When I'm in my largest cog, I always make a mental note of it (I tend to tell myself "I can't go any lower than this") so a misshift is not likely. And every brand shifter has a downside - with Campy, some people have a hard time using the thumb lever when in the drops. For Shimano, the cabling isn't as clean as Campy or SRAM. I love the single paddle, I love the clean cabling and I'm very happy with SRAM Force, quirkiness notwithstanding.
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And you know this how???
My point in all this was that there's a lot of noise to signal regarding the SRAM shifters, and most (all?) of the noise is coming from people who have spent either no, or very little time with them.
Having *personally* used BOTH systems, I can tell you that there is no more "danger" inherent in the SRAM system than any other indexed shifting system.
My point in all this was that there's a lot of noise to signal regarding the SRAM shifters, and most (all?) of the noise is coming from people who have spent either no, or very little time with them.
Having *personally* used BOTH systems, I can tell you that there is no more "danger" inherent in the SRAM system than any other indexed shifting system.
I have *personally* used BOTH systems, JUST LIKE YOU! (If I put more asterisks around the word "personally" will that make it even more emphatic?)
With Shimano, there is ZERO chance of an accidental upshift when trying to downshift from the big cog. The Shimano shifter won't let you push it when it's out of travel. With SRAM, there IS a chance of an accidental upshift. How? (1) If the SRAM is like yours (which they don't all appear to be), a person could shift in the normal manner, pushing the lever to the normal downshift point, and get an upshift, or (2) if the SRAM is like so many others, the same thing happens regardless of how far you push the lever.