jberenyi

Well I've had my Record group now for about a month and I must say I'm not impressed. In fact I'm honestly thinking of selling the whole thing off and going with Dura Ace. Why you ask? The damn thing will not track my cassette body. Me and another very experienced biker tried for hours and it will not track in all speeds correctly. The frame and gruppo is all brand new. You get the low and high limits set and the other cogs will not track no matter how much you adjust the barrel adjuster. You get the middle running great and the low limit is off a little. If this is how all Campy run then I feel sorry for all that invested in this stuff. I should have listened to my friends at work and go with Shimano like I had before. Dura Ace stuff runs so silently and tracks so well its like stealth mode. Campy needs to get out of business but fast so they don't waste peoples time and money.

cedricbosch

Prepare for the ultimate flame war.

timmyquest

I was having the same problem with my ultegra/105 setup...new chain, problem gone. I'm pretty confident that your problem is unique.

waterrockets 

Your der. hanger was probably bent during shipping or assembly. It happened to me once from shipping.

Stick a loooong wrench in the rear der and look at it from way up high, and way behind. It should be square to the frame centerline. Note that the cage should be vertical when seen from behind too.

Campy may be a lot of things, but crap isn't one of them.

cedricbosch

By the way, I'm a mechanic who works on both campy and shimano all day long, and I have to say that they're both equally as easy to adjust. It just takes patience.

What you may have is a defective product.

unbelievably

I agree...
Campy, IMO is overpriced and too noisy.
Dollar for dollar and performance wise...Go for Shimano.

However,
Campy does look cool...

Stallionforce

Had the same problem with my Dura Ace when it was new. After a lot of adjusting by a few different mechanics, one guy finally noticed that the hanger was bent (as water rockets suggested). Try that. Campy and Shimano both shift differently on the rear (Shimano glides in and Campy slams in) but both are excellent.

old and new

OP, I'll allow it... the oppinion that it. I've yet to receive my newest bike,it's equipt with Campy. I never owned a Campy equipt bike. I chose to this time to stay with the theme of my new Italian made bike. I'm anxious to try Campy,if it's half as as good as DuraAce I'll be happy. I don't expect it will be AS good or better. Campy that I've tried on borrowed bikes has been adequate as far as sharpness ,at best. I want to see how the new cranks and the 10 brifters feel and work. Like I said, if I don't hate'em, I'll be happy. As far as your impressions of Campy, I can appreciate them,at least you're not pandering to Italiaphiles.

slide13

Something isn't right there. I've had a total of three different Campy groupos and I've never had this problem when using a Campy cassette. I did have something similar when I was using a Wheels Mfg. conversion cassette so I could use a Shimano wheel I had. Once I got new wheels and a real Campy cassette the shifting was perfect. Take it to a shop with a good wrench and see if they can figure out where your problem is.

Miles2go

Right on. Sell me that crappy Record stuff at a bargain price since it's not running right for you. I'm just up the road in South Ogden. The grouppo probably just prefers to be on something like my Eddy Merckx.

Miles2go

But seriously John... Glad to hear you got that new bike and sorry to see that you're not having as much fun with it as you should be.

Are all the components within the Campy family, including the chain? Sounds like a cage alignment issue like others have mentioned but thought I'd ask about what you're running with it. Otherwise, the only time I've seen an issue similar to yours is with either the wheel not being centered in the frame properly or with poorly aligned dropouts.

I've owned many bikes with Dura-Ace and even more with Record. I haven't had no problems with either, though I'm still hanging on to my pre-carbon stuff.

Best of luck with this and we'll see you on the road.

Patriot

Never had a problem with Campy or Shimano. Sounds like something out of the ordinary is going on, and your taking your anger and lack of ability to solve a problem out on the manufacturer of the components. I say this out of personal experience.

Patience is a virtue.

KevinF

It's either a cage alignment issue or you have the cable routed through the rear derailleur itself incorrectly.

battery guy

while I prefer Shimano, Campy isn't that bad.

urodacus

your problem is that you don't have campy hubs. and you probably don't have campy socks either. you NEED the socks. the gruppo can tell if the footo is correctly socked-up.


and the cap.

and the toolbox.


everything has to match, man.

DrPete 

Ah... Another histrionic product review courtesy of the internet. You have a problem and can't figure out what's wrong, so CLEARLY the only option is that Campy Record, a group used by professional cyclists for decades now, is obviously just a crap component group and Campy needs to go out of business.

I agree that it sounds like the derailleur hanger, or perhaps an issue with your cable routing/housings and the cable seeing some friction somewhere.

Or maybe you're right. Maybe Record is just the worst gruppo ever and Campy needs to go out of business.

R900

+1

patentcad

>>My first impression of Campy...it sucks<<

Duh. Come to the light my son:





We await you at the Our Lady of Dura Achee Chapel. We will cast off your Campy and pray together.

El Diablo Rojo

It sounds to my like your RD hanger may be out of alignment or maybe even your frame. Just because the frame is new does not mean it's aligned. Take it to a good shop and have them check it. If you really want to sell it PM me and we can talk.

rodrigaj

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=300121

Quality control issues? Design flaws? Good luck! My problem was easy to fix, but it leaves me with a lingering doubts about current campy stuff.

DrPete 

Especially since STI levers never break. Ever.

jberenyi

Thanks for your generous comments on what the problem may be. In answer to some of the questions proposed; the frame is a Lynskey (Ti) and the wheelset is Fulcrum Racing 1's. I can assure everyone the hangar is not bent and if you know Ti material at all, it does not bend easily. Could it be the frame itself as someone suggested? Hell if I know but its going to take a pro to figure this one out with the right alignment check tools. But if in fact this issue is caused by come Campy component it will be the last time I ever buy a Campy gruppo. If its the frame, I'm definitely screwed for the summer. With Lynskey's backlog on frames I wouldn't see mine back for 6-8 months. Until this issue is solved I don't think I can ride with the groups anymore...I had enough jeers from the Shimano owners to last a lifetime about how noisy the tracking was in the rear.

Trsnrtr

I have a DuraAce drive train that I've fought off on on for some time. I've also had a SRAM MB setup that gives me the same problem. Assuming a straight hanger, I've found that cable drag, kinks, etc. will cause a bike to not properly shift up and down in all gears, even on a brand new setup.

Hocam

Any material bends easily, just depends on how thick it is.

Put your ego aside and take it to a mechanic and ask him to check the frame and hanger alignment.

DrPete 

And how is that? Check the alignment recently? And are you saying that Lynskey doesn't build frames with replaceable derailleur hangers? While we're on the topic of bad designs...

Just because a frame is expensive or from a small frame builder doesn't mean it's impossible to have a defect. I would leave no stone unturned here.

It seems like you're taking those Campy jeers and just making this a "campy sucks" thing so you can rationalize switching groups. You're more than welcome to do that obviously, but there seems to be more going on than the shifting problem. Buyer's remorse can cause a lot of noise in the drivetrain too.