Mystery Yokota
#26
Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
This site is like the CIA I can't even send a private message so if Jharrington
ever comes back will you please reply. I have no idea why everything is so secretly in the bike world. Please email me because I probably will not check back here.
I have a Yokota Yosemite I bought 26 years ago. Can you tell me a little about its history.
Thanks
Larry
knykid-one@yahoo.com
ever comes back will you please reply. I have no idea why everything is so secretly in the bike world. Please email me because I probably will not check back here.
I have a Yokota Yosemite I bought 26 years ago. Can you tell me a little about its history.
Thanks
Larry
knykid-one@yahoo.com
Last edited by lkenney; 03-07-12 at 03:08 PM. Reason: add something and change something
#27
Newbie
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Yokota
I found my Yokota in the bike store in Mill Valley, CA back in 1988. What's really strange is the bike blue book only shows them being made/sold in 1993-1994. It's a great bike and has been with me through all sorts of riding all these years - used more for transportation while I lived in San Francisco and off-trail since I moved back to Minnesota (not to mention only being able to ride 2/3 of the year now). Expect it to hold up for many more years.
#29
Newbie
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Here is a bit of info on the Yokota Legend. Got mine in late '89 or '90. Have a letter from Yokota in Santa Clara explaining why Tange #2 instead of specced Tange #1 (availability).
Used to ride it a lot - it replaced a '73 Raleigh SuperCourse and was far superior. Still have all original equip except the saddle and tires/tubes.
It's still a good bike and in good shape but don't ride it so much anymore since I got older and shorter rides - recently inherited a '97 Cannondale Mtn Bike and ride it mostly as a "city bike".
I found my old "Yokota Cycles '89" catalog with pics and specs of their bikes. There was a Challenger with full Ultegra components, what looks like a curved main tube and weird handlebars - it was their top road bike; the Legend was their "best buy"
Catalog says Yokota founded in 1932 by Mr. Hiroshi Yokota. Say they were 2nd largest frame mfgr in Japan in 1989 with 100000 frames/month selling to private labels and, I guess, decided to come out with their own brand name in late 80's.
Cheers,
Jimmy
Used to ride it a lot - it replaced a '73 Raleigh SuperCourse and was far superior. Still have all original equip except the saddle and tires/tubes.
It's still a good bike and in good shape but don't ride it so much anymore since I got older and shorter rides - recently inherited a '97 Cannondale Mtn Bike and ride it mostly as a "city bike".
I found my old "Yokota Cycles '89" catalog with pics and specs of their bikes. There was a Challenger with full Ultegra components, what looks like a curved main tube and weird handlebars - it was their top road bike; the Legend was their "best buy"
Catalog says Yokota founded in 1932 by Mr. Hiroshi Yokota. Say they were 2nd largest frame mfgr in Japan in 1989 with 100000 frames/month selling to private labels and, I guess, decided to come out with their own brand name in late 80's.
Cheers,
Jimmy
#30
yokota rider
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Irving TX
Posts: 1
Bikes: Yokota Legend, Raleigh M20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I have the Yokota Legend, same color as the one in the pic. Bought it new Arlington TX in '89 and still ride it about 250 miles/month. I've been through several bikes and always come back to my beloved Yokota. It is balanced perfectly, it's super light weight, a pleasure to ride. I would never sell this bike.
#31
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,800
Bikes: Lots of English 3-speeds, a couple of old road bikes, 3 mountain bikes, 1 hybrid, and a couple of mash-ups
Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 887 Post(s)
Liked 335 Times
in
225 Posts
I may as well jump in to the discussion now. I have bought 2 Yokotas. The first was a mixte frame and fork built with Tange tubing tubing and forged drop-outs (I sold it). The second an El Capitan built with Tange Cro-Mo MTB tubing. I still have the bike - it is the one of the lightest steel MTBs I have ridden.
#32
Jharrington
Reply to a Mystery Yokota
Hi, my name is John Harrington and I was the founder of Yokota Cycles USA in 1988. Back in those days, Mountain Bikes were the hot item but what’s a bike company without road bikes? The Legend was one of the top end models. There was one more expensive model called the Discovery, but it was more specifically a Tri Model with a curved top tube and upswept handlebars. So the Legend was really the top of the line road bike. The frame design came from my background as a Category One Road and Track racer as well as being a Custom Frame builder. I used the same frame geometry that I used when making Road Racing Models for Athletes. So I know the bike handles well. It’s very stable going straight but very quick in the turns. The first year that Yokota Bicycles hit the market was 1989. As I mentioned above, the market was really centered on Mountain Bikes so 1989 was the only year Yokota sold road bikes, so your Legend is pretty rare. I guess these days, it would be considered a Retro Bike. I left Yokota in 1993 and went to work for Easton Sports to create a Bicycle Division manufacturing Bicycle Components from Aluminum and Carbon Fiber. Yokota had a distributor on the East Coast (Owned by Reid Rowland’s) named Stricky Wholesale and he marketed a line of components called Dirt Research. Strictly Wholesale took over the distribution of Yokota Bicycles in 1993. Unfortunately I'm not sure the Bicycles survived past 1994 with Strickly Wholesale. I am very happy to see these models still exist and are being used. Please enjoy the ride and thanks for sharing the pictures!
#33
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 654 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,036 Times
in
1,874 Posts
My recollection is that the triathlon/TT above the Legend was called the Challenger.
#34
Veteran, Pacifist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 13,328
Bikes: Bikes??? Thought this was social media?!?
Mentioned: 284 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3898 Post(s)
Liked 4,836 Times
in
2,229 Posts
Hi, my name is John Harrington and I was the founder of Yokota Cycles USA in 1988. Back in those days, Mountain Bikes were the hot item but what’s a bike company without road bikes? The Legend was one of the top end models. There was one more expensive model called the Discovery, but it was more specifically a Tri Model with a curved top tube and upswept handlebars. So the Legend was really the top of the line road bike. The frame design came from my background as a Category One Road and Track racer as well as being a Custom Frame builder. I used the same frame geometry that I used when making Road Racing Models for Athletes. So I know the bike handles well. It’s very stable going straight but very quick in the turns. The first year that Yokota Bicycles hit the market was 1989. As I mentioned above, the market was really centered on Mountain Bikes so 1989 was the only year Yokota sold road bikes, so your Legend is pretty rare. I guess these days, it would be considered a Retro Bike. I left Yokota in 1993 and went to work for Easton Sports to create a Bicycle Division manufacturing Bicycle Components from Aluminum and Carbon Fiber. Yokota had a distributor on the East Coast (Owned by Reid Rowland’s) named Stricky Wholesale and he marketed a line of components called Dirt Research. Strictly Wholesale took over the distribution of Yokota Bicycles in 1993. Unfortunately I'm not sure the Bicycles survived past 1994 with Strickly Wholesale. I am very happy to see these models still exist and are being used. Please enjoy the ride and thanks for sharing the pictures!
It's good to have the direct scoop.
Still in the bicycle industry?
__________________
Vintage, modern, e-road. It is a big cycling universe.
Vintage, modern, e-road. It is a big cycling universe.
#35
Jharrington
Re: Tom and Gary
Tom only made one ATB frame for me. It was the Top end Mountain bike. I also know Gary Yokota, it’s just a coincidence with his last name. He had no involvement with Yokota Cycles, USA. But he is a very talented guy!
#36
Jharrington
Correction: Challenger
You are correct, it was called the Challenger. Which was an unfortunate model name choice. Had the road bike continued I would have had to change the name due to the tragedy of the Space Craft of the same name.
#37
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SF Bay Area, East bay
Posts: 7,660
Bikes: Miyata 618 GT, Marinoni, Kestral 200 2002 Trek 5200, KHS Flite, Koga Miyata, Schwinn Spitfire 5, Mondia Special, Univega Alpina, Miyata team Ti, Santa Cruz Highball
Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1610 Post(s)
Liked 2,590 Times
in
1,224 Posts
Just adding my Yokota Terminator, it's been moved on to a new owner...
#38
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,800
Bikes: Lots of English 3-speeds, a couple of old road bikes, 3 mountain bikes, 1 hybrid, and a couple of mash-ups
Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 887 Post(s)
Liked 335 Times
in
225 Posts
^^^^ That's a radical design.
#39
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 654 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,036 Times
in
1,874 Posts
Yes, it seems like every other ATB manufacturer was copying the Nishiki Alien's elevated chainstay concept, circa 1990
#40
Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Hello, just bought a bike yesterday that I had never heard about, it’s a Yokota and am so happy to have found this forum. I was surprised the way this bike looked so good for the price, it’s well built and rides beautifully. If some one has some info about this model please let me know. Serial number starts with HD9050
I love the bike and not getting rid of it. Any idea on the value of one of these?
I love the bike and not getting rid of it. Any idea on the value of one of these?
#41
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 786
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 384 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
6 Posts
Hello, just bought a bike yesterday that I had never heard about, it’s a Yokota and am so happy to have found this forum. I was surprised the way this bike looked so good for the price, it’s well built and rides beautifully. If some one has some info about this model please let me know. Serial number starts with HD9050
No idea what the serial number might mean.
If you aren't getting rid of it, its value to you lies in whether it brings you the satisfaction you want. Don't worry about its money value. That only matters if you're going to get rid of it, and if someone wants to pay you to take it. What you can agree on to close the transaction is its "value."
#42
Junior Member
I have the Yokota Yosemite bike...it was given to me as gift, new.....somewhere around 1991. It was sold as a 'hybrid' bike....which has a very different meaning now. Being half road bike and half pseudo mountain bike, describes it perfectly. I have more miles on this bike than any other of my bikes. Probably because of nostalgia, but everything works on it spectacularly. ...the brakes, the shifters etc. It's not fussy...it always delivers...unlike my Trek mountain bike which falls 'out of tune' if not ridden. Mine is black, never crazy about the color but it is what it is.
Thank you John H. for all the nice yrs with this bike!!
Kevin
Thank you John H. for all the nice yrs with this bike!!
Kevin
#43
Junior Member
I worked at a shop where we sold Yokotas, and they were good value bikes, at least in the higher end of the range. But lack of name recognition made them a harder sell than better-known brands. So we did not sell a lot of them.
No idea what the serial number might mean.
If you aren't getting rid of it, its value to you lies in whether it brings you the satisfaction you want. Don't worry about its money value. That only matters if you're going to get rid of it, and if someone wants to pay you to take it. What you can agree on to close the transaction is its "value."
No idea what the serial number might mean.
If you aren't getting rid of it, its value to you lies in whether it brings you the satisfaction you want. Don't worry about its money value. That only matters if you're going to get rid of it, and if someone wants to pay you to take it. What you can agree on to close the transaction is its "value."
I have a Schwinn Le Tour that is pretty bland as far as component go...it has the appropriate alloy components to make the bike light, but nothing newsworthy. The bike was sold in the mid-range category. Almost too tall for me and yet this bike begs to be ridden. Sometimes bikes will surprise you, given how they are constructed and with the components they have. I consider both the Yokota and the Le Tour to be sleepers.
Kevin
#44
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 654 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,036 Times
in
1,874 Posts
I have the Yokota Yosemite bike...it was given to me as gift, new.....somewhere around 1991. It was sold as a 'hybrid' bike....which has a very different meaning now. Being half road bike and half pseudo mountain bike, describes it perfectly. I have more miles on this bike than any other of my bikes. Probably because of nostalgia, but everything works on it spectacularly. ...the brakes, the shifters etc. It's not fussy...it always delivers...unlike my Trek mountain bike which falls 'out of tune' if not ridden. Mine is black, never crazy about the color but it is what it is.
Thank you John H. for all the nice yrs with this bike!!
Kevin
Thank you John H. for all the nice yrs with this bike!!
Kevin
#45
Junior Member
I'm a little foggy on the exact yr......
Kevin
#46
Junior Member
Kevin
#47
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 654 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,036 Times
in
1,874 Posts
My then wife and kids bought the bike for me, so I wasn't there. They said it was described to them as a 'hybrid'. ATB is much more accurate, but maybe they got confused in the salesperson's description because perhaps, he used the word 'hybrid' in his spiel. It certainly isn't a mountain bike by most all definitions and certainly not a 'hybrid' by any definition I've seen. Be happy to post some pics and see what the serial is. Would the date code be in the serial?
I'm a little foggy on the exact yr......
Kevin
I'm a little foggy on the exact yr......
Kevin
During this era ATBs and hybrids looked alike. Most cyclists consider the determining factor to be wheel size. ATBs came with 26", while hybrids were typically 700C/28". Things would blur further with the recent introduction of 29ers.
Most serial numbers typically contain the manufacturer's identity, year of manufacture and month of manufacture, though it is often coded, to a degree. However, I think you are spot on with 1991 being the year. That looks like a Shimano Deore DX component group, which is consistent with the 1990-1991 Yosemite, but those low profile cantilevers brakes didn't come out until the 1991 model year. Still, I'd appreciate the serial number for confirmation and to try determining who was manufacturer of these bicycles during this period. TIA.
BTW, for the future, I'd suggest that you take the full bicycle photograph from the drive side. It allows members to see the drive train components, which are useful in identification.
Last edited by T-Mar; 01-07-19 at 07:54 AM.
#48
Junior Member
During this era ATBs and hybrids looked alike. Most cyclists consider the determining factor to be wheel size. ATBs came with 26", while hybrids were typically 700C/28". Things would blur further with the recent introduction of 29ers.
Most serial numbers typically contain the manufacturer's identity, year of manufacture and month of manufacture, though it is often coded, to a degree. However, I think you are spot on with 1991 being the year. That looks like a Shimano Deore DX component group, which is consistent with the 1990-1991 Yosemite, but those low profile cantilevers brakes didn't come out until the 1991 model year. Still, I'd appreciate the serial number for confirmation and to try determining who was manufacturer of these bicycles during this period. TIA.
BTW, for the future, I'd suggest that you take the full bicycle photograph from the drive side. It allows members to see the drive train components, which are useful in identification.
Most serial numbers typically contain the manufacturer's identity, year of manufacture and month of manufacture, though it is often coded, to a degree. However, I think you are spot on with 1991 being the year. That looks like a Shimano Deore DX component group, which is consistent with the 1990-1991 Yosemite, but those low profile cantilevers brakes didn't come out until the 1991 model year. Still, I'd appreciate the serial number for confirmation and to try determining who was manufacturer of these bicycles during this period. TIA.
BTW, for the future, I'd suggest that you take the full bicycle photograph from the drive side. It allows members to see the drive train components, which are useful in identification.
Kevin
Last edited by Real1shepherd; 01-07-19 at 08:50 AM.
#49
Junior Member
Doing some research on the Shimano Deore DX....that group was only made between '90-'93. The XT being the top with the DX second tier. However one guy observed that there were only minor differences between the two groups....like gold lettering on the components and ceramic pulley bearings for the XT. That doesn't exactly give me XT 'envy'......I like the DX just fine....lol.
The DX group seems to be more valuable than the bike. Reminiscent of the Raleigh International that usually had its Campy group stripped off because the frame wasn't racy enough.....making a completely OE International hard to find now.
Kevin
The DX group seems to be more valuable than the bike. Reminiscent of the Raleigh International that usually had its Campy group stripped off because the frame wasn't racy enough.....making a completely OE International hard to find now.
Kevin
#50
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 654 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,036 Times
in
1,874 Posts
I'll take a pic of the other side and post. Again, is the serial stamped underneath the BB? I've never had any reason to hunt for the serial before on this bike. This is the smoothest shifting bike I ever had. Most times I can't hear it shift, just feel the difference in resistance. That particular Shimano group is/was nice in function.
Kevin
Kevin