Abu Mahendra

Looking at Moulton, and wondering what series satisifies the following requirements:
● Threadless headset
● 406 wheels
● V-brakes
Is the TSR series the one I want?

jur

BruceM is better qualified to answer... but yes it is. But you have to get the right model to get V-brakes.

You might be able to get a frameset only from Avon Valley Cycles.

Abu Mahendra

They're in the UK, bro. That's eight timezones away from where I live. Singapore's the ticket.

jur

Can you get a frameset only in SP?

Abu Mahendra

Yes.

jur

Now you have my attention. I might want one too. Linky pls?

Abu Mahendra

Here ya go:
My Bike Shop SG
BRU

Btw, what's the OLD on the Moulton TSR fork?

jur

100mm.

BruceMetras

The White TSR-2 pictured has a 120mm rear spacing (and no V-brake bosses at the rear) ... All other TSR frames have 132mm (to accommodate road and mountain hubs as well as IGH) .. If I were getting a frame only, I'd be getting the similar but improved SST, but it is a caliper frame and has 130mm road spacing at the rear..

tudorowen1

Personally I would buy a Bike Friday...Fabulous bikes and aftersales service is superb..I had a ABP for 6 years..Never stopped creaking and riding uphill is like being on a pogo stick..

BruceMetras

I had a 1939 Plymouth with suicide rear doors.. big 6 always started fine ... used to take it into fields and knock down fence posts for extra money..

fietsbob

yea, Maybe you can score a Moulton APB (shortcoming noted) they were made in the 80s around 406 wheels.

Schwinnsta

I have 98 Moulton APB. Where I live there are no hills. The pavement is generally in bad condition due mainly to on going differential settlement. The APB smoothes over the bumps better than a 700c with wide supple tires. It generally feels fast. We do have bridges and overpasses here and normally I just remain sitting and switch to a lower gear. It has 9 speeds, drop bars with v-brakes. They were made in the early 90's. They were replaced by the TSR about ten years ago. The TSRs have some improvements but I can not tell you what they are. They feel the same to me.

social suicide

We had a 39 Pontiac. I think it was 11 turns lock to lock. The floor was rusted out and became the 'emergency beer ejection port' when we got pulled over.

Abu Mahendra

...it may all be idle weekend dreaming. i still have not gotten over the sticker shock of, and likely will not ever be able to justify to myself the nearly $1,500 for the TSR frame alone. Ditto for Tyrell and Bike Friday.

jur

My APB is on the endangered list. With the Helix (assuming it actually lands, of which I have no real doubt) I will again have too many bikes. The APB is my tourer but the Brompton with 10sp fitted can do that duty too. Perhaps even the Helix. Currently my APB is my least ridden bike. I find it a bit heavy, but it is supremely comfortable.

Abu Mahendra

Fyi, the price for a TSR frame, caliper brake only, in SG is USD1,790.

I'm out.

smallwheeler

well, at least you have a $1600 dahon to fall back on.

jur

I guess I won't be upgrading to TSR either.

smallwheeler

of course, buying a used one would just be gauche...

Abu Mahendra

It's just too much money, bro. Buy a used one? In Indonesia? Right. We're not in Kansas anymore, Toto.

Look, I can buy a TSR frame for $1,790, or a complete PC Reach (latest gen) for $200 more. Or a nice Jones 29er frame with truss fork for a little over half that price. Or a Tyrell frame with carbon stays. Total no brainer. Moulton, Schmoulton. Where do they get off charging that kind of money! And then they wonder why small manufacturing in the West is moribund. F that.

12boy

Why not your TI Swift? Seems that would be a fine alternative and should be much lighter than a 10 speed Brompton. BTW the new TSR replacement is only 22 lbs w/out saddle and pedals, I am guessing.I believe it is only around 4500.00 US.

jur

I suppose you're right. It would be very comfortable with some of those new fat Tioga Powerblock tyres.

pinholecam

Maybe try togoparts and carousell in Singapore?

I'm also under the impression that the TSR9 after negotiating for a discount is a more palatable price? (wrt BRU or MBS)

I fell into the same thought process as you did a few months back on getting a TSR.
Was offered one at a really good price.
I was curious about the Moultons often being brought up as a choice for touring/brevets.

But it did not really 'compute' for me since I'd be trading up foldability (for my travel needs) and the risk of 'bobbing' of the rear suspension during climbs.

jur

You won't need to worry about bobbing. The rear suspension is quite stiff and small travel so it smooths out smaller road bumps but no bobbing.

The front does go up and down, but that is also not too big, and besides it isn't sapping much energy according to my current understanding. It may even help (again according to my current understanding).