Witness Marks Spoke Holes
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Witness Marks Spoke Holes
Apologies if this seems like a silly post.
I had this hub laced before and it had some deep witness marks that were showing on this build. To my chagrin, I'm hung up on aesthetics . . . badly. I thought it would've been a good idea to dremel those scars, but it seems that was a big 'oof'. Guess I don't have that great an imagination. How would you go about polishing this so it dosen't become worse? Or would anyone want commission work?
Edit: Realized I cant attach photos.
I had this hub laced before and it had some deep witness marks that were showing on this build. To my chagrin, I'm hung up on aesthetics . . . badly. I thought it would've been a good idea to dremel those scars, but it seems that was a big 'oof'. Guess I don't have that great an imagination. How would you go about polishing this so it dosen't become worse? Or would anyone want commission work?
Edit: Realized I cant attach photos.
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The usual is to match the spoke bedding marks on the flange with the new lacing, pattern and spoke radiating directions. This both hides the old flange wear somewhat and decreases the flange from getting even more "stressed out". We can't see how much spoke wear the flange had of how much material removal you've done (or I think you've done, the post was a bit les then specific in this regard). in another post you can include photos. they would help us understand your situation far better.
As to polishing- that will be dependent of what was done and how much. Polishing doesn't really remove much material beyond the lowest feature. polishing done well will reduce surface stress risers but also reduce ultimate strength. Andy
As to polishing- that will be dependent of what was done and how much. Polishing doesn't really remove much material beyond the lowest feature. polishing done well will reduce surface stress risers but also reduce ultimate strength. Andy
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The system says I can't attach a photo unless I have 10 posts. I am new as of today, and have been inactive for a few years, so a bit thrown off why my post 'counter' was reset. I do wish to attach a photo of my hub. Apologies for spamming this way.
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Finally I can visually show you what I have done. Sorry about the earlier post, a crummy workaround to that limitation.
I had Dremeled the witness marks that were deeply gouged, but I imagined it to have turned out differently.
I had Dremeled the witness marks that were deeply gouged, but I imagined it to have turned out differently.
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I can see why you want to save that hub. Mu suggestion is to keep the spoke tension on the lower end of acceptable range to limit future stress. Ride it and monitor it periodically. Andy
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using your dremel with a cotton attachment drum & a medium grit rubbing compound, work the surface carefully at a low RPM speed. Once the surface is "uniform" looking, wipe up as much of the compound & apply finishing polish to the surface while using the low RPM dremel speed. After you've achieved the aesthetically pleasing surface finish, clean up the surface from both products previously applied & apply detailing wax by hand. After working in the wax, wipe away the remnant wax to leave behind the final surface finish achieved. Might take a while to do, so a lot a solid block of time dedicated to the task at hand.
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using your dremel with a cotton attachment drum & a medium grit rubbing compound, work the surface carefully at a low RPM speed. Once the surface is "uniform" looking, wipe up as much of the compound & apply finishing polish to the surface while using the low RPM dremel speed. After you've achieved the aesthetically pleasing surface finish, clean up the surface from both products previously applied & apply detailing wax by hand. After working in the wax, wipe away the remnant wax to leave behind the final surface finish achieved. Might take a while to do, so a lot a solid block of time dedicated to the task at hand.
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Not the final results, although I'm glad how it turned out. Spent about 3hrs today polishing with medium grit. Gonna have to go to the store and get Flitz polish to finish the next step and buff the remaining streaks, but so far the results are much better than before -- and it works for anyone who might find this. Thanks for your input.
Not the final results, although I'm glad how it turned out. Spent about 3hrs today polishing with medium grit. Gonna have to go to the store and get Flitz polish to finish the next step and buff the remaining streaks, but so far the results are much better than before -- and it works for anyone who might find this. Thanks for your input.
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Hardest part is dedicating the time to do it.
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Nice work OP!