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Old 12-22-22, 10:04 AM
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I have a 1980 Bianchi frame, is there a registry? Id like to figure out what model it

01 5522 I think is the number.
I think its a 1980 Rekord 748
​​61 cm.



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Plan is to repaint and build something to replace my 2012 Masi I think.
I also have a 1987 Specialissima Giro which is all original except for the stem
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Nice looking Giro. There is a Bianchi serial number thread but I’m not aware of any registery like some old school English bikes have.

Bianchi, like others, often used the same frame for several models so you may never know just what model it is. There doesn’t seem to be any chrome so that might rule out the top shelf bikes. Is there any markings on the headset?
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There doesn’t seem to be any chrome so that might rule out the top shelf bikes. Is there any markings on the headset?

There is a BIANCHI INTEGRATED HEADSET like the below , Although it has Bianchi etched in around the one piece about 4 times.. The previous owner said it had Campagnolo gear but he took it all off for another bike I took the forks off and the Celeste paint to the top part of the fork was beautiful.




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The Previous owner said it was a Rekord frame.
Which --- looking at NOS Rekord 148 bikes it has the same head set

I am going to repaint this frame, and then decide either, do I buy 1980s rekord Groupset and go with the original look, or put modern components on it.

Input Welcome!!!!!

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Make the component decision before paint.
if you go modern- most likely that it will need to be spread to accept modern 130 mm wide rear wheels.

keep track of the required brake reach also
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Rekord 148 or 748? I think it might be a Sky Blue Rekord 748 wit Columbus Zeta tubing and a typical mix of components.

Well it is a mid level frame so I’m not sure I go all out on Campagnolo Record kit, but just build it nice period stuff like it came with.



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I think the Head tube stamp is 01 5522
I can barely make out the number.
When I strip it down Ill be able to see it
Where is teh website to see what numbers are what.

PS Thanks for your help.


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0L (zero, ell) would make sense to me, given that my 1982 Bianchi, made at the end of 1981, has S/N 1.M9912. .

The 27" wheelset spec. caught me by surprise, because my Campione d'Italia came with 700C wired-on rims and 700Cx28 tires are a pretty tight fit, so 27" would be "no way." My OEM metallic charcoal paint is a chromatic outlier, but the TreTubi frame and all of the original components do match Campione d'Italia exactly.

Original equipment matched 1982 Campione d'Italia specs. Frame date is late 1981. "Charcoal" color not found in catalog listing.
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By 1984, I believe this model had morphed into the Nuovo Racing, which also had Nuovo Record derailleurs and a mix of Ofmega parts with Columbus TreTubi frame as in the catalog photo. I understand TreTubi to be SL / SP main tubes and something else for the forks and stays. By 1984, at least, it came stock with 700C rims on cheesy Ofmega "Touring" hubs. I rode one for many years setup as a commuter and still have it. I could just squeeze fenders onto it and it has a great ride. I chose to mount a Shimano 600 crankset to get the inner ring down to a 39 for the steep climbs I had in both directions, and Shimano 600 SIS with downtube shifters acting on a Suntour 7-speed cassette (yes, cassette, not freewheel). Shifting is flawless and I've put over 25,000 miles on the bike. Mine is red and all the decals except the remains of the tubing decal were gone when I got it, and the top tube has gotten rusty over the years, which all seem to work together as an effective anti-theft system. I often leave it outside stores without locking it up. The only theft I ever had with it was when I locked it up and forgot the key in the lock. When I came back, someone had stolen....the key! Dirty bastard, It's still my "reasonably fast in foul weather" errand bike.
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Decoding Date Code

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0L (zero, ell) would make sense to me, given that my 1982 Bianchi, made at the end of 1981, has S/N 1.M9912. .

The 27" wheelset spec. caught me by surprise, because my Campione d'Italia came with 700C wired-on rims and 700Cx28 tires are a pretty tight fit, so 27" would be "no way." My OEM metallic charcoal paint is a chromatic outlier, but the TreTubi frame and all of the original components do match Campione d'Italia exactly.

Original equipment matched 1982 Campione d'Italia specs. Frame date is late 1981. "Charcoal" color not found in catalog listing.
The 1 before the dot indicates 1981, the M represents the month. My Nuovo Racing has a 4.A date code, meaning the frame was built in January of '84. This date code was only used on Italian frames, I believe.
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Originally Posted by longhitv
I think the Head tube stamp is 01 5522
I can barely make out the number.
When I strip it down Ill be able to see it
Where is teh website to see what numbers are what.

PS Thanks for your help.

Post here and T-Mar will likely chime in https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ification.html
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Originally Posted by sbarner
The 1 before the dot indicates 1981, the M represents the month. My Nuovo Racing has a 4.A date code, meaning the frame was built in January of '84. This date code was only used on Italian frames, I believe.
True. M = December (13th letter -- I don't know whether they skiped I or used a working/business calendar comprising 13 four-week "months," as I saw the accounting dept. do one place I worked and was paid biweekly).
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Originally Posted by longhitv
There is a BIANCHI INTEGRATED HEADSET like the below , Although it has Bianchi etched in around the one piece about 4 times.. The previous owner said it had Campagnolo gear but he took it all off for another bike I took the forks off and the Celeste paint to the top part of the fork was beautiful.




I am not convinced that is an integrated HS. I believe the last years of the integrated HS was early '70s, unless I am mistaken.
My '71 has an integrated HS where the races are recessed into the lug.
Bianchi1971IntegratedHeadseton Flickr
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Headset

Could be.
Mine looks like the integrated headset with the textured besel EXCEPT it has the bianchi type about 4 times engraved or etched into the lower besel. This is like the 784 or one of the other race bikes. No other headsets have that. Atlease that I can see.
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which Groupset

Oh ok. so a friend offered me two Groupsets.

NOS Shimano 600 tri-color groupset with NOS wheels and stem. everthing I need. Cineli bars. everything brand new to go on a newly painted frame.

or a
1985 Campagnolo Victory Corsa groupset, with wheels, very clean with only 200 miles on them. Comes with non campy post and handlebars.

Both of these are a good price. $300 and $400.

Or should I do a more modern setup to avoid downtube shifting.

Thoughts.
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@longhitv - As a nearly die-hard Campagnolo guy, it is hard for me to respond but go with the 600. BTW, 200 miles is nothing unless it was in muddy conditions and in a crash!
Victory stuff is just redesigned Nuovo/Super record groups of the past that have a reputation of not performing that well with wide ratio rear blocks. In addition, the rings are a unique BCD. although they should last a long time, if you want to play with tooth count, you will be limited.

Oh and stick with the DT shifting.
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Originally Posted by SJX426
@longhitv - As a nearly die-hard Campagnolo guy, it is hard for me to respond but go with the 600. BTW, 200 miles is nothing unless it was in muddy conditions and in a crash!
Victory stuff is just redesigned Nuovo/Super record groups of the past that have a reputation of not performing that well with wide ratio rear blocks. In addition, the rings are a unique BCD. although they should last a long time, if you want to play with tooth count, you will be limited.

Oh and stick with the DT shifting.
Agree with this, and I am a Campy guy as well. 600 tricolour is a great groupset, but you might hesitate to put it on a Bianchi even though it is more or less period correct. As for more modern, Shimano setups with exposed gear cables look too "busy" for my taste and Shimano didn't get concealed cable shifting right until the advent of 11 speed. Campagnolo got that right more or less from the start. I would opt for most Campagnolo groups from the beginning of 9 speed to the present to avoid having to search for 8 speed cassettes which have become expensive and rare
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Originally Posted by longhitv
Could be Mine looks like the integrated headset.
I have to disagree. Post 4 headset would not fit on your bike. Check this picture carefully
PXL_20220728_162435384 on Flickr

See how the head lug "swells" out at the top? Yours does not 'swell" at all. It was made to have the cup pressed into the head lug or more correctly, the head tube. An integrated HS cup is not seen from the outside bcause it is pressed into the head set lug.

I do't have a good pic but here you can see how the cup/race is separate from the lug
PXL_20220920_202356144 on Flickr

Head sets vary significantly by brand. Here is a Way-Assauto Headset. on my 1973ish Bottecchia
P1020417 on Flickr

WRT Victory group. I don't care for the blocky design either. A lot of round features on bicycles and straight features only where needed, like the frame. Round and radius features win in my book.
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600 tricolor groupset

Well I ended up buying the 1995 600 Groupset as its soooooo nice
I will add the Bianchi Selle Italia Seat I have
I will strip and repaint the frame.






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