vargalgergo

I’ve just bought a vintage Vianelli, and I wanna know some things about it. Could somebody give me some informations about it?

I’m sorry I couldn’t attach files yet.

My frame is a twisted one, with internal cable routing.

Old Fireleg

Hi,
(Szia,
innentől angolul próbálom folytatni.)
My only information about Vianelli is that, if I remember correctly, he was a bicycle supplier for the Hungarian national team in the early 2000s for a few years. As a result, these racing machines were painted red-white-green. Maybe you can get more info by starting on this line.
Üdv.

vargalgergo

My Vianelli is blue, but it was I think originally yellow. But I’ve bought it in Hungary, and I know that the bike was a racers practice bike. So that means it could be a Vianelli.
Thank you! It has just campa mirage parts.
Have you seen Vianelli frames? Do you think you could recognize if it’s a Vianelli or not? Than I’ll send you pics in email

P!N20

Vianelli thread here: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ody-heard.html

vargalgergo

We can speak in hungarian too. Sorry, but im not allowed to attach photos yet

Old Fireleg

Hi,
I looked at it, my memories cheated, but the red-white-green.is right. Not the national team, but the supplier of Fradi was sinore Vianelli. I was also a little insecure because the guy whose father I knew and who told me about the arrival of Vianellis didn’t think he was a national teamman, but he was pushing him at Fradi.
https://index.hu/exit/ketkereken/aszfaltk/ftc/?print
Is your frame lugged or TIG welded?
I think we follow the rules of the website and stay with the English.

vargalgergo

I don’t know what does TIG and lugged welded

vargalgergo

It’s lugged. I know now.

DMC707

Good luck with yours - by a "twisted one" - do you mean one with S bend tubes like a funny bike?

My Vianelli is quite nice considering I got it for $58 in an ebay auction. -- I then spent more than that having the bottom bracket shell faced , aligned and rear stays spread to 130 to accommodate an 8 speed drivetrain

-- perhaps this is the summer it sees the light of day again

vargalgergo

I don't know how to explain it. If you search for this site, you'll see: cyclingweekly(dot)com/reviews/road-bikes/lynskey-heix
So my tubes are like this.

Old Fireleg

Is it so roughly twisted like this lynskey? On a lugged frame is almost unbelievable. Or with many more finer ribs, densely spiral. I've seen such a Rossin frame and maybe a Benotto too. Are all three main tubes twisted?
You can now send a picture.
Edit: It occurred to me afterwards, I saw another one here: https://recikli.com/candito-nlta/?v=35b5282113b8

vargalgergo

I couldnt

vargalgergo

I couldnt

vargalgergo

It has many more ribs

vargalgergo

And the Last without pic

vargalgergo

DMC707

BRavo for the pic! --- That is cool !

vargalgergo

Old Fireleg

Grat! Not an average bike. If you just caress it, it's a pleasure.

vargalgergo

Yes it’s beautiful, and so good. Because of the twisted tubes, it’s much lighter than the normal ones. I hope I can find a fork for it. It will be a big project to make it as original as possible. The next step after the fork will be the headset, the stem and the handlebar. I must change the seatpost as well, but it’s not a big thing. Maybe the stem and the handlebar will be Cinelli

qcpmsame 

Helically twisted tubes, IIRC. Nice looking bike, and DMC707 I have the Botty painted, just looking for the group my wife wants me to put on it. Need to find a nice triple crankset, with brifters.

Bill

Old Fireleg

Thanks for the exact description!
I quickly searched for it and threw out the following: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...rth-price.html
I wrote above that I saw a similar Rossin frame. That's what I realized was actually Ciöcc. Two Ciöcc and one Rossin frames hung side by side in the store. It was ca.15 years ago ...

The seatstay's connection is similar to this Vianelli. It could be made by Pelizzoli for Vianelli.

himespau 

Beautiful.

vargalgergo

And what do you think? How much does it worth? Just the frame.

As I reed the comments, I love more and more my Vianelli frame. I think it was a good deal. And the looking is also so so beautiful. I’m sad about the repaint, but who cares, if it’s still a really good-looking one And it goes so good as well.

unworthy1

Doubt that Pelizzoli would have built this but you can never be certain unless you share the pix with him and ask. More likely it was contract-built by one of the big contract shops, one of which COULD be the Bonati shop that bought the Ciocc brand and most assuredly was building the few we have seen with "embossed" tubing, tho this is the first I have seen with THAT exact helical pattern, most others (of MANY Brands) were either a straight or "cross-hatched" pattern some have called "wheat sheaf". Also a mystery who did the embossing cause it seems not to be factory-applied by Columbus, Oria or Deda to their tubing. Plus your Vianelli has a Puch 531 fork, so "pre-Bianchi" fork I would say.