Even w/ Video Evidence - No Charges for Driver in Death of Cyclist
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Even w/ Video Evidence - No Charges for Driver in Death of Cyclist
"Amelie Le Moullac was pedaling eastbound on Folsom Street just before Sixth Street on the morning of Aug. 14, 2013 when the right-turning truck driven by Gilberto Alcantar struck her. Police faulted Le Moullac for her death until a San Francisco Bike Coalition staffer discovered surveillance video of the crash at a nearby auto shop. After watching the video, investigators concluded Alcantar was to blame for making an unsafe turn into the bike lane, killing the young public relations professional. Despite that key piece of evidence, prosecutors ultimately felt it wasn’t enough to convince a jury."
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Yeah no charges. Cases like this drive me nuts. Guttless prosecutors should be driven from office. Why the driver wasnt charged, when there is video of the scene proving the dirver is at fault is beyond belief.
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Yet they charge a cyclist for a death with far less evidence and go at him full force.
For cyclists, San Francisco cops and prosecutors are biased and totally suck.
For cyclists, San Francisco cops and prosecutors are biased and totally suck.
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Deaths caused by use of an automobile has reached to the level of normality in the public psyche, and the dislike of cyclists, tends to jade the thinking by many in the judicial system to what is actual fact or perceived.
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"Amelie Le Moullac was pedaling eastbound on Folsom Street just before Sixth Street on the morning of Aug. 14, 2013 when the right-turning truck driven by Gilberto Alcantar struck her. Police faulted Le Moullac for her death until a San Francisco Bike Coalition staffer discovered surveillance video of the crash at a nearby auto shop. After watching the video, investigators concluded Alcantar was to blame for making an unsafe turn into the bike lane, killing the young public relations professional. Despite that key piece of evidence, prosecutors ultimately felt it wasn’t enough to convince a jury."
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No Charges for Driver in Death of Bicyclist Amelie Le Moullac | KQED News Fix
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No Charges for Driver in Death of Bicyclist Amelie Le Moullac | KQED News Fix
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This makes my blood boil... I'm even irritated enough that I stupidly have been engaging with commenters, I'm grateful not to live in SF itself.. the SFPD and the DA both do a lot of things that bother me.. not to mention the administration over there. But we have video proof.. of the driver doing the moving violation and killing the cyclist.. there's no question about that, so HOW THE **** IS THERE NO WAY TO PROVE IT? It's proven dammit.. in my mind anyhow, and I suspect even an autocentric jury would see that and have to come to the same damn conclusion.. unlike some of these commenters who I suspect would be thrown out at jury selection. So much hate.
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I'm surprised that the prosecutors felt they didn't have enough to convince a jury. All you need to do in CA is prove negligence resulting in a death. Making a right turn without checking the bike lane first sure sounds like negligence to me.
They should at least cite the driver for the improper turn.
They should at least cite the driver for the improper turn.
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I'm surprised that the prosecutors felt they didn't have enough to convince a jury. All you need to do in CA is prove negligence resulting in a death. Making a right turn without checking the bike lane first sure sounds like negligence to me.
They should at least cite the driver for the improper turn.
They should at least cite the driver for the improper turn.
The victims family will get their due justice in civil court, that's for sure.
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Because of the hostility towards' cyclists'. Finding a jury pool in SF County(that includes Silicon Valley), that is not hostile to cyclists' being on the road, is next to impossible. Even when all the evidence is in the cyclist's favor.
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It goes too far, in my opinion, and would never become the law here without a massive change in attitudes.
However, in this case, with US law ... I can see why they wouldn't want to go for negligent homicide or manslaughter or something like that, as convincing a jury that it was legally negligent might indeed be difficult.
But I don't understand why they can't at least charge the guy with reckless driving (usually more severe than a standard moving violation, but not a felony) or at least "failure to yield" or another standard moving violation along those lines. You certainly don't need to prove negligence or intent in a standard moving violation -- you just need to show that the guy did something he shouldn't have -- and the video evidence should show that nicely if it does get contested in court.
That the guy gets a ticket isn't much consolation ... but 1) there's no doubt whatsoever that the evidence supports it, and 2) it's still better than nothing. And yet, he gets nothing.
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For example, in the US minor traffic violations are generally handled from a "strict liability" standpoint -- the state doesn't have to prove that you intentionally or negiglently exceeded the speed limit -- all it has to do is show that you exceeded it and if they do, you're guilty. No need to muck with "innocent until proven guilty", just change what's required to be guilty of the crime.
It doesn't work so well for more serious violations, but even so, we sometimes still do it. For example ... child pornography. If you're accused of possessing it, the prosecutor generally doesn't have to show that you intentionally owned it, or even that you negligently obtained it -- all he has to do is show that it was in your posession. You don't even have to know that it was there.
So if somebody emails you some, and it goes into your spam folder and you never even see it ... you're guilty. Even if you do see it, and you delete it -- it can probably still be recovered from your computer, and so you're still guilty.
In any event, most people don't sympathise with child pornographers, so most don't have a problem with this law, and don't think that it could ever be used against them (though the reality is ... it could.) But most people do drive a car, and could see how a "simple mistake" could lead to them being hit with serious criminal charges ... so they won't be supporting such laws without a massive change in attitude.
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This makes my blood boil... I'm even irritated enough that I stupidly have been engaging with commenters, I'm grateful not to live in SF itself.. the SFPD and the DA both do a lot of things that bother me.. not to mention the administration over there. But we have video proof.. of the driver doing the moving violation and killing the cyclist.. there's no question about that, so HOW THE **** IS THERE NO WAY TO PROVE IT? It's proven dammit.. in my mind anyhow, and I suspect even an autocentric jury would see that and have to come to the same damn conclusion.. unlike some of these commenters who I suspect would be thrown out at jury selection. So much hate.
Furthermore, there's considerable discussion that this case is an example of the inferior status accorded to cyclists. I think that, on the basis of the evidence, this is a most reasonable conclusion. It is most likely that the cyclist bought into this cyclist-inferiority superstition, which is widespread throughout the population, and, because of this belief, rode into the side of the right-turning truck. That fits the evidence better than any other conclusion suggested in this discussion.
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It says --
After watching the video, investigators concluded Alcantar was to blame for making an unsafe turn into the bike lane, killing the young public relations professional. Despite that key piece of evidence, prosecutors ultimately felt it wasn’t enough to convince a jury.
And I imagine that simply charging the driver with a violation of "V C Section 22107 Turning Movements and Required Signals" is not worth his time or is otherwise not something that they want to do, even if it sounds like the evidence strongly supports such a charge.
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As if the original article isn't bad enough,the officer decided to throw salt in the wound:
At Safe Streets Rally, SFPD Blocks Bike Lane to Make Point of Victim-Blaming | Streetsblog San Francisco
Somebody needs to sit behind a desk for awhile.
At Safe Streets Rally, SFPD Blocks Bike Lane to Make Point of Victim-Blaming | Streetsblog San Francisco
Somebody needs to sit behind a desk for awhile.
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As if the original article isn't bad enough,the officer decided to throw salt in the wound:
At Safe Streets Rally, SFPD Blocks Bike Lane to Make Point of Victim-Blaming | Streetsblog San Francisco
Somebody needs to sit behind a desk for awhile.
At Safe Streets Rally, SFPD Blocks Bike Lane to Make Point of Victim-Blaming | Streetsblog San Francisco
Somebody needs to sit behind a desk for awhile.
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While I can partially understand SFPD Sgt. Ernst's motive about saying that a cyclist can use the full travel lane. At the same time, it goes against the existence of the bike lane, in that he was blocking it with his police cruiser. So, He didn't have a very good argument for his position.
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Even with a jury of drivers, it seems to me it would be very hard to overlook the fact that someone is dead because of this driver.
I hope in civil court the family ends up owning the trucking company and the driver is sued for almost everything he has.
Again I say the City Atty should be recalled and thrown out of office since he wont give the family justice.
I hope in civil court the family ends up owning the trucking company and the driver is sued for almost everything he has.
Again I say the City Atty should be recalled and thrown out of office since he wont give the family justice.
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I get what you're saying,but would you have used the wake of your ship to scare someone on a PWC to show them how easy it is to get hurt on one? The cop was illegally parking in a bike lane,and creating a traffic hazard(not to mention screwing up traffic for the cars being slowed by all the cyclists pulling into the lane) just to make a point. Watch the video and note how busy that spot was.
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